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seven seas Mar 8th 2010 4:22 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 8405755)
Somalis were just happy to sit back and claim benefits and made little effort to learn english

ahhh, somalia! The academic powerhouse of....er....you cant really call them refugees though, more like washed-up-on-the-beach.Remind me of constipated Puritans teleported into downtown Tokyo.

Blue Cat Mar 8th 2010 7:34 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
could you imagine if they had a "give every single expat the day off day here" just for one day. EVERYWHERE would be shut, garages the lot!

seven seas Mar 9th 2010 6:45 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
Weird how we stopped talking about immigrants who are mistreated and discriminated against....


That documentary anyway is just a sensationalist piece of shoddy investigative work. Sure, things would stall, but within a while the slack would be taken up and the gaps would be filled sooner or later.

There is a skills shortage in the UK, there is a certain percentage of people who have become dependent on benefits and are in essence unemployable.

I think everyone knew that, and the only deniers are misfits like the BNP etc.

Inselaffen Mar 9th 2010 10:20 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by seven seas (Post 8409189)
Weird how we stopped talking about immigrants who are mistreated and discriminated against....


That documentary anyway is just a sensationalist piece of shoddy investigative work. Sure, things would stall, but within a while the slack would be taken up and the gaps would be filled sooner or later.

There is a skills shortage in the UK, there is a certain percentage of people who have become dependent on benefits and are in essence unemployable.

I think everyone knew that, and the only deniers are misfits like the BNP etc.

The UK does have a skills shortage and should actively be seeking skilled workers to fill those gaps. It should also be barring unskilled workers from entering the country whilst cutting benefits to get lazy British unemployables off their arses.

zoukla Mar 11th 2010 5:13 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
I applaud the frankness of Brits on this thread...funny in my consultancy when the recession in in 2008 the first people to get the sack were the work permit holders....some brilliant engineers who could draw without autocad calculate without hevacomp etc.

Having lived in a few places north to south ...tis the same story.
In edinburgh , left for work at 6am came back around 7 and was still on call and earned nothing to my neighbour who was at home all day watching 'trisha' and she earned more than i did.. could manage to walk into ikea but everything ahe had had to be ikea...

The midlands the same... so much bling, tech etc and people drugged up (The north is even worse) and no one seem to want to change their situation.

I dont know how the message can be brought home to folks in the UK that if the immigrants left Great Britain will not be so great... like the member said.. if you can manage to give yourself a headache think of Dubai without immigrants, worse think of an emirati without a maid...I dont have enough panadol.

Transport, NHS, care for the elderly (cause we cant be arsed to clean our own parents poo). It would just be a CATASTROPHE.

So why do brits not embrace immigrants like the americans as a tool to regain GREATNESS!

Brown making a case of immigrants for the elections 'british jobs for british people ..who cant fill the bill...how can businesses stay profitable.

WE maybe need a campaign to 'leave the immigrants alone' and let them do what they have been doing since the war rebuilding the country... ever been to pollockshield, aston,east london? mmmmmmmmmm.

I see why since coming here so many Brits are resolved not to go back!


Britain remains...A country in denial of their reality!

expat.brat Mar 11th 2010 7:22 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
the country is going to face a huge wake up call in the decades to come...rapidly ageing population, shift of power/economic focus going eastward to the newly industrialised countries around the world.

by then it'll be too late for the uk to do anything about that of course...oh and i imagine the immigrants will probably leave because there are better opportunities elsewhere so at least the Daily Wail readers will be happy

Hello.Kitty Mar 11th 2010 7:54 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
yup, it'd be interesting to see who the Moaners blame for the woes of the country if there weren't any immigrants... although they'd probably still blame the people who left for leaving the place in a shambles!

It's really just another example of many Brits lacking the social responsibility to face up to and deal with the various problems.

seven seas Mar 12th 2010 4:27 am

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty (Post 8414764)
yup, it'd be interesting to see who the Moaners blame for the woes of the country if there weren't any immigrants...

They'd find someone.. it was protestants, then blacks, or the Irish, or the jews, or the southerners, or the Huguenots, or the Poles, and the Turks.... they will never run out of someone to blame as logn as they have the imagination to dream up some horror story to get outraged about.

lionheart Mar 13th 2010 4:49 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
Here is another interesting story on a similar topic. You have to speak fluent Polish to be a sausage packer in Norfolk it seems.:(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...referrer=yahoo

Bahtatboy Mar 13th 2010 8:13 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 
I'd rather my teenage sons read Playboy than the Daily Mail, which is pornography in the truest sense of the word (ie that which tends to corrupt and deprave). Never knew anyone who became corrupt or depraved by looking at naked ladies, yet the constant subtext of virtually everything in the Dail Mail seeks to retard rather than facilitate progress. As much as I want free speech, I'd happily see the Dail Mail banned.

seven seas Mar 13th 2010 8:15 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy (Post 8418520)
I'd rather my teenage sons read Playboy than the Daily Mail, which is pornography in the truest sense of the word (ie that which tends to corrupt and deprave). Never knew anyone who became corrupt or depraved by looking at naked ladies, yet the constant subtext of virtually everything in the Dail Mail seeks to retard rather than facilitate progress. As much as I want free speech, I'd happily see the Dail Mail banned.

I like.

Bahtatboy Mar 13th 2010 8:20 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by seven seas (Post 8405961)
ahhh, somalia! The academic powerhouse of....er....you cant really call them refugees though, more like washed-up-on-the-beach.Remind me of constipated Puritans teleported into downtown Tokyo.

At the risk of being ostracised, sent to Coventry, censured and being thrown out of the brownies for cross-threading--I thought we established somewhere else that teleportation isn't viable...

I've been constipated in Osaka--does that count?

littlejimmy Mar 13th 2010 8:27 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by lionheart (Post 8418273)
Here is another interesting story on a similar topic. You have to speak fluent Polish to be a sausage packer in Norfolk it seems.:(
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...referrer=yahoo


I bet the people of Ethiopa and Somalia are weeping into their goat stews because people in the UK have their sausages packed by non-English speakers. Definitely deserves a sad smiley.

How does that affect anyone's life?

I don't get it. I can't understand why anyone would want to subject themselves to the constant hate and misery that the Mail subject their readers to, and understand even less the motivation of people who live overseas to read it.

chikala Mar 15th 2010 6:41 pm

Re: The day the immigrants left
 

Originally Posted by zoukla (Post 8414600)
I applaud the frankness of Brits on this thread...funny in my consultancy when the recession in in 2008 the first people to get the sack were the work permit holders....some brilliant engineers who could draw without autocad calculate without hevacomp etc.

Having lived in a few places north to south ...tis the same story.
In edinburgh , left for work at 6am came back around 7 and was still on call and earned nothing to my neighbour who was at home all day watching 'trisha' and she earned more than i did.. could manage to walk into ikea but everything ahe had had to be ikea...

The midlands the same... so much bling, tech etc and people drugged up (The north is even worse) and no one seem to want to change their situation.

I dont know how the message can be brought home to folks in the UK that if the immigrants left Great Britain will not be so great... like the member said.. if you can manage to give yourself a headache think of Dubai without immigrants, worse think of an emirati without a maid...I dont have enough panadol.

Transport, NHS, care for the elderly (cause we cant be arsed to clean our own parents poo). It would just be a CATASTROPHE.

So why do brits not embrace immigrants like the americans as a tool to regain GREATNESS!

Brown making a case of immigrants for the elections 'british jobs for british people ..who cant fill the bill...how can businesses stay profitable.

WE maybe need a campaign to 'leave the immigrants alone' and let them do what they have been doing since the war rebuilding the country... ever been to pollockshield, aston,east london? mmmmmmmmmm.

I see why since coming here so many Brits are resolved not to go back!


Britain remains...A country in denial of their reality!


Agree with you zoukla, the small island that is the UK makes this issue worse wheras in the US they have the space...


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