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Old Mar 27th 2016, 6:34 pm
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This was obviusly an attack on the Easter celebrations by the minority Christians who already are down-trodden and sidelined in the ultra rasict Pakistani Muslim Community. I am a Pakistani and I am a Muslim but I want to call a spade a spade. This will all blow over in 2 days just like all other attacks on all other minorities in Pakistan like the Shia's or the Ahmedi's because Pakistani Culture is Ultra-Rasict. Despite all the drum banging we do about Islam being a religion of equality, we are the biggest hippocrites of them all as the majority Sunni Muslims will just shrug their shoulders, waggle their heads and then carry on as if nothing happened. I am SO glad that I got my family out of that failed state when I did!
Things are never going to get any better. They will remain the same. We are paying the price of letting that dictator Zia Ul Haq turn this secular nation into a 'so-called' Islamic Republic. He is the one who allowed the religion and state to be mixed and now decades later we are paying the price of financing first the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, then the Taliban, then their offshoots for our purposes in Kashmir, Sindh, Punjab and now we don't have a handle on them anymore. That is exactly what will happen in Turkey, actually is happening in Turkey right now. The Turks will pay the price of keeping a pet snake with their blood.
Muslims are killing Muslims, no one else needs to kill us anymore. We will kill each other till there are only a few of us left. And we will do all this because OUR version of Islam is better than the other Muslim's version of Islam. WE think that only we will go to heaven and everyone else will go to Hell. WE think that WE were deputized by God himself to make sure that everyone follows the right path i.e. OUR particular version of the path and God Forbid anyone question it, we will kill / maim / behead him saying 'How dare you say anything about my religion?', while calling everyone else's religion or his version of our religion wrong! No one wants to look towards his own pending grave, everyone wants to save you from the fires of hell, and is willing to kill other people to do so. When did God ever say that it is ok to kill innocent women and children in my name and I will gift you when you do so??
90% of the problems in the world will be solved if these so called Muslims stopped being Muslims for a few days.
And to think that a person's version of religion is ONLY better because he was born in that family!!
Think about it!! The ONLY reason I think I am going to Heaven is because I was born in the right 'religiou version' family.

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Old Mar 27th 2016, 10:17 pm
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Excellent post . Sadly folks like you are to few and far between .

This is not meant to to pat Western society on the back but I have noticed there is a huge difference in introspection and acknowledging the mindset of one's ancestral culture in the Middle-East and South Asia versus the West.
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Originally Posted by Irishbeekeeper View Post
90% of the problems in the world will be solved if these so called Muslims stopped being Muslims for a few days.
Don't let's forget that Christianity is an equally dangerous religion. Most of the leaders of NATO nations are Christians, at least nominally, and they are killing as Moslems willy-nilly - in their own homes in the Middle East and North America. What difference is there, morally, between Moslems blowing up Christians and Christians blowing up Moslems? None.
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow View Post
Don't let's forget that Christianity is an equally dangerous religion. Most of the leaders of NATO nations are Christians, at least nominally, and they are killing as Moslems willy-nilly - in their own homes in the Middle East and North America. What difference is there, morally, between Moslems blowing up Christians and Christians blowing up Moslems? None.
This thread concerns the dreadful atrocity that caused the deaths of innocent women and children.
It is a political rather than a religious matter.
The very courageous post that began the thread is to be admired beyond measure.
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Thank God I'm an atheist - only sad there aren't more of us.
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Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow View Post
Don't let's forget that Christianity is an equally dangerous religion. Most of the leaders of NATO nations are Christians, at least nominally, and they are killing as Moslems willy-nilly - in their own homes in the Middle East and North America. What difference is there, morally, between Moslems blowing up Christians and Christians blowing up Moslems? None.
Seriously? Like really?

I'm not arguing that Christians can't be dangerous but they're hardly offing folk left right and centre just because they don't agree with the imaginary friend they might have.....
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Yes, the unarmed poor Christians in that park were killed because of their politics.

Nothing to do with religion. Move along. Nothing to see here.

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No, the politics of Pakistan. The Taliban getting at the more moderate PM Nawaz Sharif.

Taliban faction says Lahore bombing was 'message' to Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif
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No, the politics of Pakistan. The Taliban getting at the more moderate PM Nawaz Sharif.

Taliban faction says Lahore bombing was 'message' to Pakistan PM Nawaz Sharif
the basic issue is in these shitholes you cannot separate politics and religion.
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Originally Posted by Norm_uk View Post
The politics of Pakistan is intrinsically tied up with theology though. The country was set up as an Islamic state in the first place. It means 'pure land'...which should tell you what their founders thought about non-Muslim peoples.




There is no separation of religion and politics in mainstream Islam. It's like the Old Testament but without the 'get out jail' texts in later Rabbinical Judaism or Christ's sayings which overrode the law and separated religion and state. (Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's etc.).

This is why we know any Muslims who call for any kind of legislative change based on the Sharia are not at all moderates or reformers.

Actual reformers around the world are calling for it...and being killed in droves for their troubles all over the world while our media tells us it's something to do with foreign policy or politics or economics alone.

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Pakistan became an Islamic State in 1956. The country was 'set up' originally in 1947 because M. Jinnah the founder thought Muslims would get a 'better deal' in a separate country rather than in a Hindu majority country.
The evidence is that he did not "look down on non-Muslim people". Unfortunately he suffered from TB and died within the year. Extremist leaders followed.
Approx. equal number of Muslim people stayed and did not leave to go to Pakistan.
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Ahmadiyyas have a tough time in Pakistan. Sine the fall of the hah and the rise of the Ayatollahs, Shia also have had a tough time. Sufis too can be targeted. Maybe the decadent West has its good points.

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