Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
Mar 29th 2010, 9:26 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
I would have made sure I treated the couple decently and explain my reasons and perhaps try to find suitable alternative accommodation. I am not homophobic nor am I a religious nut but I believe all people should be allowed to follow the tenets of their faith and beliefs within their own private homes.
Their solution was to look for gay friendly accommodation in advance - there are plenty around, or book into a hotel where they could be anonymous.
http://www.friendly-places.com/categories/gay-friendly/
Mar 29th 2010, 9:33 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
Do all these episodes around the world indicate that "gay feeling" and "lesbian feeling" are against nature and forbidden?
Mar 29th 2010, 9:34 am
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Mar 29th 2010, 9:39 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
In my opinion there was a very good reason to turn them away. They should have checked first if gay couples were welcome. It was a B&B in a private house not an HOTEL - Anyway all businesses have the right to refuse admission/custom. Bars, restaurants, nightclubs etc all have a sign saying - We have the right to refuse entry - which is unconditional. Even if they don't like the look of you, they can refuse admission !
I would have made sure I treated the couple decently and explain my reasons and perhaps try to find suitable alternative accommodation. I am not homophobic nor am I a religious nut but I believe all people should be allowed to follow the tenets of their faith and beliefs within their own private homes.
Their solution was to look for gay friendly accommodation in advance - there are plenty around, or book into a hotel where they could be anonymous.
http://www.friendly-places.com/categories/gay-friendly/
I would have made sure I treated the couple decently and explain my reasons and perhaps try to find suitable alternative accommodation. I am not homophobic nor am I a religious nut but I believe all people should be allowed to follow the tenets of their faith and beliefs within their own private homes.
Their solution was to look for gay friendly accommodation in advance - there are plenty around, or book into a hotel where they could be anonymous.
http://www.friendly-places.com/categories/gay-friendly/
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
Mar 29th 2010, 9:42 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
The point is it's not their private house once they open it up for business. Simple.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
If your day-to-day business routine involves inviting people into your home, you most certainly may refuse them entry.
Mar 29th 2010, 6:19 pm
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
In my opinion there was a very good reason to turn them away. They should have checked first if gay couples were welcome. It was a B&B in a private house not an HOTEL - Anyway all businesses have the right to refuse admission/custom. Bars, restaurants, nightclubs etc all have a sign saying - We have the right to refuse entry - which is unconditional. Even if they don't like the look of you, they can refuse admission !
I would have made sure I treated the couple decently and explain my reasons and perhaps try to find suitable alternative accommodation. I am not homophobic nor am I a religious nut but I believe all people should be allowed to follow the tenets of their faith and beliefs within their own private homes.
Their solution was to look for gay friendly accommodation in advance - there are plenty around, or book into a hotel where they could be anonymous.
http://www.friendly-places.com/categories/gay-friendly/
I would have made sure I treated the couple decently and explain my reasons and perhaps try to find suitable alternative accommodation. I am not homophobic nor am I a religious nut but I believe all people should be allowed to follow the tenets of their faith and beliefs within their own private homes.
Their solution was to look for gay friendly accommodation in advance - there are plenty around, or book into a hotel where they could be anonymous.
http://www.friendly-places.com/categories/gay-friendly/
'Sorry you've seen my sign, I don't want any black people'
What woul dhappen then eh?
Mar 29th 2010, 8:21 pm
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
The point is it's not their private house once they open it up for business. Simple.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
You walk into my pub and I don't like the look of you I could refuse to serve you and didn't have to give a reason.
I don't think they have changed too much over the years.
Mar 30th 2010, 4:12 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
I can refund you and you can sue me if you want more money - let the judge decide.
I own 2 rental villas in Mauritius and the terms and conditions were made by a solicitor and legal.
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Mar 30th 2010, 4:59 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
Are you arguing or advertising?
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Mar 30th 2010, 6:23 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
The point is it's not their private house once they open it up for business. Simple.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
And bars, restaurants and the like certainly cannot discriminate on the basis of sexuality, regardless of what anyone might intrepret a sign as meaning. Legislation is very clear on this whole issue.
Morally--we're all entitled to an opinion, but that's very separate from the legal position.
The B&B owners were discriminatory when they refused admission saying it was against their (opinion) christian principles to admit the gay couple.
Morally the B&B owners did not act in a christian-like manner. They were self righteous and judgemental. "Do not judge others lest you be judged". Matthew 7:1-5
If they were acting according to their christian (Christ like) principles they should have asked themselves -What would Jesus have said and done?.
Jesus never judged anyone fullstop. He mixed with all sorts of people regarded as sinners by the religious leaders in those days who criticised him for it. Jesus said "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Matthew 2:17
What I would have done and the B&B owners should have done was to act in a decent manner without breaking the law and without hurting the gay couple's feelings. They could have used any old excuse for non admission - heating broken down, flooded room, plumbing problem, fire, illness, circumstances are beyond our control so here is your refund and here is the nearest B&B (gay friendly) and the taxi fare to get there.
Mar 30th 2010, 6:25 am
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Re: Can't Stay If You're Gay, B&B Tells Couple
Yes legislation is quite clear and the moral situation was not handled correctly either.
The B&B owners were discriminatory when they refused admission saying it was against their (opinion) christian principles to admit the gay couple.
Morally the B&B owners did not act in a christian-like manner. They were self righteous and judgemental. "Do not judge others lest you be judged". Matthew 7:1-5
If they were acting according to their christian (Christ like) principles they should have asked themselves -What would Jesus have said and done?.
Jesus never judged anyone fullstop. He mixed with all sorts of people regarded as sinners by the religious leaders in those days who criticised him for it. Jesus said "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Matthew 2:17
What I would have done and the B&B owners should have done was to act in a decent manner without breaking the law and without hurting the gay couple's feelings. They could have used any old excuse for non admission - heating broken down, flooded room, plumbing problem, fire, illness, circumstances are beyond our control so here is your refund and here is the nearest B&B (gay friendly) and the taxi fare to get there.
The B&B owners were discriminatory when they refused admission saying it was against their (opinion) christian principles to admit the gay couple.
Morally the B&B owners did not act in a christian-like manner. They were self righteous and judgemental. "Do not judge others lest you be judged". Matthew 7:1-5
If they were acting according to their christian (Christ like) principles they should have asked themselves -What would Jesus have said and done?.
Jesus never judged anyone fullstop. He mixed with all sorts of people regarded as sinners by the religious leaders in those days who criticised him for it. Jesus said "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners." Matthew 2:17
What I would have done and the B&B owners should have done was to act in a decent manner without breaking the law and without hurting the gay couple's feelings. They could have used any old excuse for non admission - heating broken down, flooded room, plumbing problem, fire, illness, circumstances are beyond our control so here is your refund and here is the nearest B&B (gay friendly) and the taxi fare to get there.
No not advertising - sorry about that, it looks like I'm bragging. I will try to edit and remove the link
