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The Dean May 26th 2013 9:40 am

"Brits Go Home!"... er, I mean "don't"........
 
:huh:

http://www.arabianbusiness.com/are-t...e--501787.html

OleJanx May 26th 2013 10:00 am

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Interesting, but the comments were the usual cracked record.

Ethos83 May 26th 2013 10:01 am

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Silly article.

Ok, there's 100k Brits in the UAE.

Yet why does no one complain about the South Asian population in the UAE, which not only vastly exceeds the British population but is even more permanently based? Yet the Brits are the threat?

Kix May 26th 2013 10:03 am

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Massive chips on shoulders some people.

Personally i think it's jealousy and insecurity.

shiva May 26th 2013 10:08 am

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Originally Posted by Ethos83 (Post 10725157)
Silly article.

Ok, there's 100k Brits in the UAE.

Yet why does no one complain about the South Asian population in the UAE, which not only vastly exceeds the British population but is even more permanently based? Yet the Brits are the threat?

a lot of locals do complain about it, mostly the young who imagine their country can survive without them. The older ones of course know that most business done here is funneled through Indian/Pakistani?Iranian companies and they'd be ****ed without them, even more so than without us.

as an aside and because my head is full of such useless crap, the official currency here used to be the rupee and most of the pearl diving industry was driven by India, locals in dubai were pearl divers with the occasional boat owner but the vast majority of traders and boat owners were Indian.

the_red_sheep May 26th 2013 10:09 am

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Originally Posted by Ethos83 (Post 10725157)
Silly article.

Ok, there's 100k Brits in the UAE.

Yet why does no one complain about the South Asian population in the UAE, which not only vastly exceeds the British population but is even more permanently based? Yet the Brits are the threat?

The tired clichés about all Brits being sunburnt and/or drunk rolled out at the start immediately put me off the rest of the article. And the statement '...I’ve been told by taxi drivers, locals and even the British themselves that “there are just too many Brits in the UAE”...' I just find completely unbelievable. I've never heard this said or even implied by anyone here.

Even the conclusion that, because there are half a dozen Brits in senior positions in a few local companies everything is ok, really just seemed rather simplistic and contrived, not exactly ground breaking journalism.

shiva May 26th 2013 10:10 am

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the thing i really love about the expat out argument is that if 99% of the population work for the government and we all left, who exactly would they be governing and what would they do in these jobs, mind you i often wonder what half of them do on any given day anyway

Norm_uk May 26th 2013 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by shiva (Post 10725171)
the thing i really love about the expat out argument is that if 99% of the population work for the government and we all left, who exactly would they be governing and what would they do in these jobs, mind you i often wonder what half of them do on any given day anyway

Indeed, most expats have jobs and work hard and avoid trouble. On top of this even staying long term is only feasable with a job. There are no state handouts or passports even after decades. It's a totally different situation to the UK for example.

It's mostly younger locals who think they know everything (like most young people everywhere). Most locals don't mind expats as long as they work and respect UAE law because they know they can kick them out anytime they like...again, unlike the UK where we can't seem to kick out people who scream from the rooftops about how much they hate us and our society before going to collect benefits for them and their families.

N.

NorthernLad May 26th 2013 11:03 am

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More bad press....

"We come from different backgrounds [and] sometimes they [foreign cultures] are imping on each other. They should be in line with each other. Sometimes they are not aware or ignorant of this. This applies to all communities, but to be candid and frank, it’s probably usually Britons."

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...ture-1.1188172

NorthernLad May 26th 2013 11:09 am

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...and some interesting statistics:

On average, an expat pays some Dh2,500 annually to the UAE government in various fees

– but the state spends about Dh14,000 on each expat per year.

60 per cent of Zayed University students polled in a recent survey are “not afraid” of expats’ presence and impact on Emirati society

48 per cent of ZU students feel the success story of the UAE is possible without expats

47 per cent of ZU students feel this is not possible


http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...-uae-1.1188229

Seriously??? How does that 48% feel about working as cleaners, cooks, petrol attendants, shop assistants, construction workers etc... :confused:

shiva May 26th 2013 11:17 am

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Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 10725242)

Seriously??? How does that 48% feel about working as cleaners, cooks, petrol attendants, shop assistants, construction workers etc... :confused:

they don't feel, these people are invisible to them and thus they haven't even considered the ramifications of their removal. hilarious really

scrubbedexpat141 May 26th 2013 11:24 am

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Tripe.

Way too short to even scratch the surface of the argument.

the_red_sheep May 26th 2013 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 10725242)
– but the state spends about Dh14,000 on each expat per year.

I would love to know what they UAE state does with my 14k, because I'm not seeing any of it!

My only thought is that this is on the provision of local services (street lighting, cleaning etc...) when split by head of population???

The figure would be meaningful if there was also a figure for the amount the state spends per annum on each local, and the economic benefit derived by the state per expat and per local - that would make interesting reading.

nateusa May 26th 2013 11:52 am

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all i want from expats to say what the first bloke commented on.

NorthernLad May 26th 2013 12:16 pm

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Originally Posted by the_red_sheep (Post 10725272)
I would love to know what they UAE state does with my 14k, because I'm not seeing any of it!

My only thought is that this is on the provision of local services (street lighting, cleaning etc...) when split by head of population???

The figure would be meaningful if there was also a figure for the amount the state spends per annum on each local, and the economic benefit derived by the state per expat and per local - that would make interesting reading.

I think municipality tax on the DEWA bills covers that.

I have no issue with these 'hidden' taxes...my feeling is that the students have no idea about what expats contribute in taxes (cut out the alcohol here and see how much the tax coffers go down...the markup is astounding on alcohol...not to forget how much Dubai Duty Free makes on booze).

The bigger issue is that they just seem to think that all expats are Europeans/Americans/Aussies, they forget the vast majority are low-income workers.


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