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From the German weekly Der Speigel

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Germanic colonists from Frisia subjugated and ethnically cleansed England of Britons and instituted a system of Apartheid.

Until now, the so-called Minimalists have set the tone in British archeology. They believe in what they call an "elite transfer", in which a small caste of Germanic noble warriors, perhaps a few thousand, placed themselves at the top of society in a coup of sorts, and eventually even displaced the Celtic language with their own. Many contemporary Britons, not overly keen on having such a close kinship with the Continent, like this scenario.
But there is no use in denying it. It is now clear that the nation which most dislikes the Germans were once Krauts themselves. A number of studies reinforce the intimacy of the German-English relationship.

Biologists at University College in London studied a segment of the Y chromosome that appears in almost all Danish and northern German men -- and is also surprisingly common in Great Britain. This suggests that a veritable flood of people must have once crossed the North Sea.
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'Social Structures Similar to Apartheid'

In truth, however, the army of the Britons was usually in retreat. Many fell into captivity. According to Härke, the captured Britons lived a miserable existence as "servants and maids" in the villages of the Anglo-Saxons.

There were two types of grave in the cemeteries of the time: those containing swords and other weapons, and those with none. The local inhabitants, deprived of their rights, were apparently buried in the latter type of grave.

The London geneticist Mark Thomas is convinced that the conquerors from the continent maintained "social structures similar to apartheid," a view supported by the laws of King Ine of Wessex (around 695). They specify six social levels for the Britons, five of which refer to slaves.

As a result of the brutal subjugation, the reproduction rate of the losing Britons was apparently curbed, while the winners had many children. The consequences are still evident today in the British gene pool. "People from rural England are more closely related to the northern Germans than to their countrymen from Wales or Scotland," Härke explains.
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Think you should amend the title to "England" not Britain you're the Anglo Saxons not us. Thank you
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Think you should amend the title to "England" not Britain you're the Anglo Saxons not us. Thank you
I was quoting verbatim the Speigel headline , thats why I also included the quotation marks in the headline. But I did go ahead and edited the title as you requested (and removed the quotation marks) , in the interest of accuracy.
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'People from rural England are more closely related to the northern Germans than to their countrymen from Wales or Scotland,' Härke explains.
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er... no sh*t, Sherlock!

You'd have to be a complete dunce not to see the obvious Germanic roots in many aspects of British culture - names, language, gene pool... gosh.

Anyhow, I can't quite work out which tribe my ancestors hail from, but we weren't part of the invasion force!
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I was quoting verbatim the Speigel headline , thats why I also included the quotation marks in the headline. But I did go ahead and edited the title as you requested (and removed the quotation marks) , in the interest of accuracy.
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Originally Posted by Hello.Kitty View Post
er... no sh*t, Sherlock!

You'd have to be a complete dunce not to see the obvious Germanic roots in many aspects of British culture - names, language, gene pool... gosh.

Anyhow, I can't quite work out which tribe my ancestors hail from, but we weren't part of the invasion force!
It seems we're not taught our own history anymore if some people feel this is surprising or newsworthy.

We were taught about the Anglo-Saxon invasions after the Romans left Britain. DNA confirms this as well, especially in the east of the country - yet interestingly enough most people in Britain are also related to the Celtic and pre-Celtic inhabitants. It's reckoned the Welsh are probably the most native of all Britons though.

A good number of Scots have Viking blood, and even parts of Ireland have Germanic settlement - they really got around a lot in their longships.

What's amazing is how the Germanic invasions were in waves and were relatively few people yet they changed the language and culture of the Isles for good. Historians use the Anglo-Saxon migrations to Britain as an example of how nations can be taken over by smaller forces and forever changed. It's not a bad thing in the case of the Saxons, they brought a lot of good for the time including the concept of trial by jury of peers before they'd even heard of Christ...

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