Brexit outcome
#151
Re: Brexit outcome
Can we change topics slightly and talk about Jeremy Corbyn?
What a f****** antisemitic terrorist sympathiser.
To quote a former Labour supporting mate, I'm more mortified that Corbyn is leader of Labour and a prospective future PM than the embarrassingly incompetent May government.
Corbyn once said that if you don't criticise or fight injustice you are condoning the same injustice. But I guess Jews aren't included in that sentiment.
What a f****** antisemitic terrorist sympathiser.
To quote a former Labour supporting mate, I'm more mortified that Corbyn is leader of Labour and a prospective future PM than the embarrassingly incompetent May government.
Corbyn once said that if you don't criticise or fight injustice you are condoning the same injustice. But I guess Jews aren't included in that sentiment.
#152
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I think this will be the final outcome. The problem is as millhouse says too many vested interests (with deep pockets) and too many cooks. i do feel sorry for poor May as it was a poisoned chalice role. I may even put a punt on a flash election next year - I'd want BoJo as the next PM (him and trump would make a great double act!)
#154
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Juncker blinked first. May played a great game, totally dummied the EU then and passed to BoJo. Hes now hes gone to the bench to beef up the team for the pending route. The Federalists knows they are F***ed. They are doing damage limitation trying to muster support and avoid the Bonus point.
#158
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Boris says this is going to make it harder to get a good brexit deal.
Stay on message man! This wasn't intended to block parliament interfering in your brexit 'negotiations'. Remember?
Jeez, his handlers must really wish the moron would read his briefing papers, at least for something this important.
Been PM for a month or two, been defeated six out of six in parliament, and now once in the supreme court. Impressive.
Stay on message man! This wasn't intended to block parliament interfering in your brexit 'negotiations'. Remember?
Jeez, his handlers must really wish the moron would read his briefing papers, at least for something this important.
Been PM for a month or two, been defeated six out of six in parliament, and now once in the supreme court. Impressive.
#159
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Remember, the strategy is to pitch the parliament and "establishment" against the people. All this stuff you're seeing is part of the story.
#160
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They had no choice.
Just imagine the supreme court had decided the PM could disband parliament for basically as long as he decides. If 5 weeks, why not 5 years or 50 years? There is no written constitution, so you either say that the PM can do it for as long as he wants, or he can only do it for the period required, which most definitely is not 5 weeks.
The UK has got by, somehow, for a few hundred years with no written constitution. If one thing is clear now, it's that UK democracy is utterly broken, and has been lucky that successive governments have broadly had a respect for the rules and a sense of fair play. The UK needs a written constitution, and badly.
Ironic that all the arguments about transparency and accountability in the EU, and then it turns out the UK's shonky system is utterly broken, the PM is out for a power grab, the judges are holding him back, and an unelected rubber stamp is proving no use whatsoever as a bulwark for democracy.
Just imagine the supreme court had decided the PM could disband parliament for basically as long as he decides. If 5 weeks, why not 5 years or 50 years? There is no written constitution, so you either say that the PM can do it for as long as he wants, or he can only do it for the period required, which most definitely is not 5 weeks.
The UK has got by, somehow, for a few hundred years with no written constitution. If one thing is clear now, it's that UK democracy is utterly broken, and has been lucky that successive governments have broadly had a respect for the rules and a sense of fair play. The UK needs a written constitution, and badly.
Ironic that all the arguments about transparency and accountability in the EU, and then it turns out the UK's shonky system is utterly broken, the PM is out for a power grab, the judges are holding him back, and an unelected rubber stamp is proving no use whatsoever as a bulwark for democracy.
#161
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But even if he wins an election, he won't take the UK out of the EU with no deal. He's a liar, but he's not stupid, and he won't win an election, only to spend 5 years in a bunker fighting fires and dealing with the mother of all recessions. He simply wants shot of the DUP and enough majority to dump the ERG, so he can pass Theresa May's deal. Remember, Boris voted against it twice. And then for it once...
There are no sure things in politics, but maybe the surest you can get is that anyone who believes anything Boris Johnson says is what he really thinks, is going to end up disappointed.
#162
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So what happens ? By law Bojo has to ask for an extension if there's no deal. Bojo says he won't do that .
#164
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I’d imagine he gets a legal opinion saying he doesn’t need to ask. He doesn’t ask. He gets taken to court then he appeals. In the meantime the clock keeps running down
#165
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Re: Brexit outcome
It'll be interesting to see if the UK is ham strung by itself whether the EU says, OK, thanks for coming, time's up, byeeeeeee on the 31st....or if they just extend it without us having to ask.