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IndieG Sep 29th 2008 6:27 pm

Breaking News...House defeats bail out plan
 
and markets plunge....complete bloodbath today.

Sad, collective greed and stupidity has brought down the whole financial system.

Confucius Sep 29th 2008 6:32 pm

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Originally Posted by IndieG (Post 6830804)
and markets plunge....complete bloodbath today.

Sad, collective greed and stupidity has brought down the whole financial system.

When will someone defeat the housing plan over here??? That will be the day...

Confucius Sep 29th 2008 6:33 pm

Re: Breaking News...House defeats bail out plan
 

Originally Posted by IndieG (Post 6830804)
and markets plunge....complete bloodbath today.

Sad, collective greed and stupidity has brought down the whole financial system.

A very good argument was that why the people should foot the bill when the big corporates fall??? The corporates completely forgot about the people when they were making shitloads of money...

IndieG Sep 29th 2008 6:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 6830821)
When will someone defeat the housing plan over here??? That will be the day...


very soon Conf....

IndieG Sep 29th 2008 6:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Confucius (Post 6830827)
A very good argument was that why the people should foot the bill when the big corporates fall??? The corporates completely forgot about the people when they were making shitloads of money...

It's not so simple - problem is when big corporates fail, thousands of jobs are lost, it is a ripple effect and the whole economy is ultimately hurt.

Eva Sep 29th 2008 6:44 pm

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In terms of the latest Bradford & Bingley takeover in the UK, I feel really sorry for those people losing their jobs -then double whammy- probabaly paying more taxes to offset nationalisation.

Those at the top responsible shouldn't get their golden parachutes if wilful neglect/mismanagement can be shown.Jeez it's just been one big domino effect since Nothern Rock.Shouldn't the others have been more prudent????

Confucius Sep 29th 2008 6:45 pm

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Originally Posted by IndieG (Post 6830855)
It's not so simple - problem is when big corporates fail, thousands of jobs are lost, it is a ripple effect and the whole economy is ultimately hurt.

Usually people working for corporates are already on nice salaries and Im sure they already have a good big nest egg ready with the hefty bonuses that they got over time...
If they didnt save that money for this rainy day, they have cinderella to blame...

Confucius Sep 29th 2008 6:46 pm

Re: Breaking News...House defeats bail out plan
 

Originally Posted by Eva (Post 6830864)
In terms of the latest Bradford & Bingley takeover in the UK, I feel really sorry for those people losing their jobs -then double whammy- probabaly paying more taxes to offset nationalisation.

Those at the top responsible shouldn't get their golden parachutes if wilful neglect/mismanagement can be shown.Jeez it's just been one big domino effect since Nothern Rock.Shouldn't the others have been more prudent????

Interesting times...

Bijilo123 Sep 29th 2008 7:39 pm

Re: Breaking News...House defeats bail out plan
 
This is not over yet. The US Government cannot allow this to happen and are just stalling until the deatails of the plan are more transparent. The problem is that this co-incides with an election which in part will have tax pledges interwoven into the manifestos - how that is going to work will be interesting.

Watch the gold price now.

Charismatic Sep 29th 2008 8:17 pm

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Please adopt the brace position...

Charismatic Sep 29th 2008 11:01 pm

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Does anyone know about the LTSB - HBOS deal? Senior management seems to think it's going through but the market spread suggests shareholders have other ideas :rofl:.

jvr20 Sep 30th 2008 3:55 am

Re: Breaking News...House defeats bail out plan
 

Originally Posted by Bijilo123 (Post 6830980)
This is not over yet. The US Government cannot allow this to happen and are just stalling until the deatails of the plan are more transparent. The problem is that this co-incides with an election which in part will have tax pledges interwoven into the manifestos - how that is going to work will be interesting.

Watch the gold price now.

and also wait for the change in election rhetoric from foreign affairs ("I've been to Kuwait and I can see the Ruskies from my house") to the economy ("McCain rescues deal/saves 10000 American jobs/white knight type stuff") even though he actually sat quietly during the committees.:eek:

Charismatic Sep 30th 2008 4:48 am

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Originally Posted by jvr20 (Post 6831811)
McCain rescues deal/saves 10000 American jobs/white knight type stuff

Last one is clearly not PC/racist ;).

Yet McCain couldn't get his party to back him on a bailout plan weeks out from being voted in :thumbdown:. I wonder if there will be a 'backlash' at the ballot boxes about the apparent lack of action to stem the crisis. There will be plenty of middle class voters watching their pension plans go down a black hole and not too happy about it I'd imagine ;).

So I hear it's going again almost unchanged, bizarre! :huh: Perhaps they'll bring out the whips this time? :)

NorthernLad Sep 30th 2008 5:18 am

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Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6831885)

So I hear it's going again almost unchanged, bizarre! :huh: Perhaps they'll bring out the whips this time? :)

Typical American reaction - they have no clue/interest of the effect this is having on the rest of the world.

It will be interesting to see what those who opposed the plan suggest as an alternative.

IndieG Sep 30th 2008 7:04 am

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Michael Moore's take on this:

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/me...dex.php?id=235

Unfortunately, most of it is true. Either way, everybody stands to lose.


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