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Old Apr 19th 2013, 9:08 am
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...niversity.html

Sounds like it was the wild west out there.....
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Old Apr 19th 2013, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by britexpat76 View Post
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...niversity.html

Sounds like it was the wild west out there.....
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Old Apr 19th 2013, 2:56 pm
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One down, one to go. Both brothers of Russian/Chechnyan decent but residing in the USA for several years it seems.

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Old Apr 19th 2013, 7:57 pm
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Russian/Chechen ??????????????
They were Checens who grew up min Kirghizia and emigrated from there to the USA.
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To describe a Chechen as a "Russian" is like labelling Gerry Adams as "English" !
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What has America ever done to Chechnya? Oh...wait...

I liked the new today "In America a man was shot!...In China many Chinese also died due to something".
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To describe a Chechen as a "Russian" is like labelling Gerry Adams as "English" !
It would be more like saying that Adams is British, than English, and technically that would be true.
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It would be more like saying that Adams is British, than English, and technically that would be true.
Saying to Chechen that he is Russian is technically the same risk as saying to Palestinian arab that he is ... (guess who)

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Saying to Chechen that he is Russian is technically the same risk as saying to Palestinian arab that he is ... (guess who)
Yes and no to your point. Palestinians in the occupied territories will not be travelling on Israeli passports, they will not be competing for Israel. But..Palestinian Arabs within Israel will travel on Israeli passports and do compete for Israel in International sporting events, and this is closer to an analogy. For your analogy to be correct it would be Palestinian Arabs within Israel, as Chechnya is within the Russian Federation.

The older brother was born in Russia, and it is not helpful to pretend that political realities do not exist. The phrase being discussed is a poster writing Chechen/Russian and this to me acknowledged the difficulties of the situation (in regard to a least the older brother). It identifies his ethnicity and his political nationality.

He would have presumably travelled on a Russian passport, whether he liked it or not. Even in his rejection of Russia, he himself acknowledged the reality of the situation when he said, if he could not fight for Chechnya, then he would chose USA over Russia. (It is my understanding that at the time of his death he had not yet gained American citizenship)
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Yes and no to your point. Palestinians in the occupied territories will not be travelling on Israeli passports, they will not be competing for Israel. But..Palestinian Arabs within Israel will travel on Israeli passports and do compete for Israel in International sporting events, and this is closer to an analogy. For your analogy to be correct it would be Palestinian Arabs within Israel, as Chechnya is within the Russian Federation.

The older brother was born in Russia, and it is not helpful to pretend that political realities do not exist. The phrase being discussed is a poster writing Chechen/Russian and this to me acknowledged the difficulties of the situation (in regard to a least the older brother). It identifies his ethnicity and his political nationality.

He would have presumably travelled on a Russian passport, whether he liked it or not. Even in his rejection of Russia, he himself acknowledged the reality of the situation when he said, if he could not fight for Chechnya, then he would chose USA over Russia. (It is my understanding that at the time of his death he had not yet gained American citizenship)
On the other hand, the vast majority of ex-Soviet citizens are corrupt, violent and thick...
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The older brother was born in Russia, and it is not helpful to pretend that political realities do not exist. The phrase being discussed is a poster writing Chechen/Russian and this to me acknowledged the difficulties of the situation (in regard to a least the older brother). It identifies his ethnicity and his political nationality.

He would have presumably travelled on a Russian passport, whether he liked it or not. Even in his rejection of Russia, he himself acknowledged the reality of the situation when he said, if he could not fight for Chechnya, then he would chose USA over Russia. (It is my understanding that at the time of his death he had not yet gained American citizenship)
They both were born in Kirgyzstan and both had Kirgyz passports, the youngest had also US passport (from 9/11 of 2012). So according to you - nothing to do with Chechnya/Russia.

Nevertheless - the Americans do not understand realities that ethnicity-nationality is in one's blood and does not depends on place of your birth or citizenship/passport you are given.

And that Chechnya and Czechya - it is not the same:
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headline...with-chechnya/
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On the other hand, the vast majority of ex-Soviet citizens are corrupt, violent and thick...
And rich....
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They both were born in Kirgyzstan and both had Kirgyz passports
Can you give me the source for that. (not doubting you)

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http://fox59.com/2013/04/19/shots-fi...elieved-to-be/

Source for older brother born in Kyrgyzstan would still be appreciated

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Trial by Twitter! - Short Memories indeed! (Birmingham 1974)
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And rich....
From corruption brings forth riches....
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