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Charismatic Sep 21st 2008 10:19 am

That bomb in Pakistan
 
Now we are all used to obviously misinformed religious nutters trying to kill people in the name of his/her (more than likely false) deity so normally this wouldn't even feature on the radar except for the amazing size of the crater!
http://judicial-inc.biz/89mass50.jpg
http://judicial-inc.biz/89mass53.jpg
:ohmy:

What the hell? Did someone not do some calculations and realise at some point that a bigger bomb was futile?

Isn't it supposed to be Ramadan? Wouldn't most of the people staying at the hotel have been muslims? It's very bizzare by all accounts.

BBC reports:
"There are reports that at least 200 people were in the hotel's restaurants at the time of the explosion, many breaking their Ramadan fast." :(

The Dean Sep 21st 2008 10:25 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6805384)
Now we are all used to obviously misinformed religious nutters trying to kill people in the name of his/her (more than likely false) deity so normally this wouldn't even feature on the radar except for the amazing size of the crater!
http://judicial-inc.biz/89mass50.jpg
http://judicial-inc.biz/89mass53.jpg
:ohmy:

What the hell? Did someone not do some calculations and realise at some point that a bigger bomb was futile?

Isn't it supposed to be Ramadan? Wouldn't most of the people staying at the hotel have been muslims? It's very bizzare by all accounts.

BBC reports:
"There are reports that at least 200 people were in the hotel's restaurants at the time of the explosion, many breaking their Ramadan fast." :(

Czech Ambassador among the dead..........

MrsHaps Sep 21st 2008 10:28 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
It is really sad, but here is something just to top it off;

The bosses at my place were working on a project late last year, staying at the marriott. There was all of a sudden warning you must leave the country now so they picked up their belongings and left.

The boss, 6 weeks ago sent his PA on a mission, that mission was the find his suitcase that he had left and had only just remembered about it and doesnt remember which hotel he stayed in... eventually she found it (8 months after he left the country) and had it returned. He came in this morning saying oh my god im so pleased i got my suitcase back otherwise it would have been up in flames...

My response, you have got to be fcking kidding me..... :frown:

The Dean Sep 21st 2008 10:32 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by MrsHaps (Post 6805405)
It is really sad, but here is something just to top it off;

The bosses at my place were working on a project late last year, staying at the marriott. There was all of a sudden warning you must leave the country now so they picked up their belongings and left.

The boss, 6 weeks ago sent his PA on a mission, that mission was the find his suitcase that he had left and had only just remembered about it and doesnt remember which hotel he stayed in... eventually she found it (8 months after he left the country) and had it returned. He came in this morning saying oh my god im so pleased i got my suitcase back otherwise it would have been up in flames...

My response, you have got to be fcking kidding me..... :frown:

If you'd like me and my two brothers-in-law (who make Arnold Schwarzenegger look like an Oxfam poster) to come round and discuss his selfishness face-to-face, let me know.

MrsHaps Sep 21st 2008 10:38 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6805416)
If you'd like me and my two brothers-in-law (who make Arnold Schwarzenegger look like an Oxfam poster) to come round and discuss his selfishness face-to-face, let me know.

ccok end springs to mind! Apparently it is because he is spanish... or at least that is why everyone seems to make excuses for him......

Im fully blown geordie and a hot headed arse, but i dont blow often and today he made me blow!

MataHari Sep 21st 2008 10:46 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by MrsHaps (Post 6805433)
ccok end springs to mind! Apparently it is because he is spanish... or at least that is why everyone seems to make excuses for him......

Im fully blown geordie and a hot headed arse, but i dont blow often and today he made me blow!

so...he got his suitcase back...and he made you blow...good day for him then

Charismatic Sep 21st 2008 10:46 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by MrsHaps (Post 6805405)
He came in this morning saying oh my god im so pleased i got my suitcase back otherwise it would have been up in flames...

I would have giggled if it was said in the right way, Positive thinking in the face of terrible adversity. Good to see the blitz spirit alive and well ;).

The target seems bizzare to me though, hopefully this will be a turning point where people previously tollerant of these terrorists will no longer accept their sense of morality being imposed on really rather moderate people of their own creed :thumbdown:. Pakistan seems to be spiraling out of control, I can't help but think western governments should offer indirect assistance to the country before it goes beyond the point of no return.

Spugsy Sep 21st 2008 10:49 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by MrsHaps (Post 6805433)
ccok end springs to mind! Apparently it is because he is spanish... or at least that is why everyone seems to make excuses for him......

Im fully blown geordie and a hot headed arse, but i dont blow often and today he made me blow!

you have a hot headed arse?

Wow, you should join a circus or something, you could make a mint.

MrsHaps Sep 21st 2008 11:01 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Spugsy (Post 6805464)
you have a hot headed arse?

Wow, you should join a circus or something, you could make a mint.

yeah yeah yeah...... but i am, both, an arse when hot headed!!

there was no laughing matter about it though, he was totally serious and thought he was amusing... there was nothing amusing about it.

Sandboy Sep 21st 2008 11:10 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Spugsy (Post 6805464)
you have a hot headed arse?

Wow, you should join a circus or something, you could make a mint.

my arse is like the back of Batman's car today. Dodgy curries from Al Quoz "restaurants"

MataHari Sep 21st 2008 11:11 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Sandboy (Post 6805520)
my arse is like the back of Batman's car today. Dodgy curries from Al Quoz "restaurants"

TMI....

IndieG Sep 21st 2008 11:40 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
The country encouraged militants, militant training camps funded by their ISI and backed terrorism in India and it is now coming back to bite them badly. Extremely sad, but expected.

They planted 2 bombs in dustbins in a childrens' park in New Delhi a few days ago - they can't get any lower than that.

Charismatic Sep 21st 2008 12:09 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by IndieG (Post 6805606)
The country encouraged militants, militant training camps funded by their ISI and backed terrorism in India and it is now coming back to bite them badly. Extremely sad, but expected.

Good point well made IndieG, karma does catch up in the end and what the have created isn't pretty. Reap the seads you sow etc.

Originally Posted by IndieG (Post 6805606)
They planted 2 bombs in dustbins in a childrens' park in New Delhi a few days ago - they can't get any lower than that.

:ohmy: Amazing what some people will do in the name of a personally held belief (even if shared to varying degrees) with no real rational basis.

It makes you realise why so many contemporary Atheists comment that religion of this nature have overall had a negative effect on the societies they inhabit. I've heard some go as far as to describe religions like this as being parasitic "mind viruses" in nature with no other purpose than their own propagation. It's hard to deny in some respects when examining closely the way that religions interwind themselves with every day life that they just may have a very valid point.

sassypilotswife Sep 21st 2008 1:52 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Charismatic (Post 6805454)
I would have giggled if it was said in the right way, Positive thinking in the face of terrible adversity. Good to see the blitz spirit alive and well ;).

The target seems bizzare to me though, hopefully this will be a turning point where people previously tollerant of these terrorists will no longer accept their sense of morality being imposed on really rather moderate people of their own creed :thumbdown:. Pakistan seems to be spiraling out of control, I can't help but think western governments should offer indirect assistance to the country before it goes beyond the point of no return.

Perhaps they should all pull out of Iraq and relocate to Pakistan ?

Spugsy Sep 21st 2008 5:39 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6805834)
Perhaps they should all pull out of Iraq and relocate to Pakistan ?

heh, love your name...

sassypilotswife Sep 21st 2008 5:42 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
Why Thank you, i purchased it on a cheap google web site :)

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 8:55 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6805834)
Perhaps they should all pull out of Iraq and relocate to Pakistan ?

there are already too many UK servicemen and women been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan over US policies that our government pandered down to.

Putting armed forces into Pakistan, whilst is the usual american kick ass chuck norris is my lovechild kneejerk reaction, in reality it would be tantamount to another 'Iraqi freedom' debacle.

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 9:02 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807766)
there are already too many UK servicemen and women been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan over US policies that our government pandered down to.

Putting armed forces into Pakistan, whilst is the usual american kick ass chuck norris is my lovechild kneejerk reaction, in reality it would be tantamount to another 'Iraqi freedom' debacle.

Going into Afghanistan was a correct decision. Place had become a training ground for Terrorists.

Iraq was a big mistake. they should have done it at the end of the 1st Gulf War or not at all.

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 9:05 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6807778)
Going into Afghanistan was a correct decision. Place had become a training ground for Terrorists.

Iraq was a big mistake. they should have done it at the end of the 1st Gulf War or not at all.

isnt Afghanistan still?

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 9:11 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807785)
isnt Afghanistan still?

Think Waziristan has taken over that role!

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 9:30 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6807794)
Think Waziristan has taken over that role!

which being pakistan means we should send our troops in next??

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 9:36 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807831)
which being pakistan means we should send our troops in next??

need to put more pressure on Pakistan to sort it out. Mind you this bomb might just have done that anyway

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 9:39 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6807848)
need to put more pressure on Pakistan to sort it out. Mind you this bomb might just have done that anyway

Is Pakistan capable of sorting it out though? i think its spiralled out of control.

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 9:42 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807857)
Is Pakistan capable of sorting it out though? i think its spiralled out of control.

that we will see in the next few weeks.

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 9:45 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by Inselaffen (Post 6807862)
that we will see in the next few weeks.

fancy a wager that nothing happens of any significance apart from maybe another similar incident?

TGFKASE Sep 22nd 2008 9:46 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807867)
fancy a wager that nothing happens of any significance apart from maybe another similar incident?

Hardly worth putting any money on it...

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 9:49 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807867)
fancy a wager that nothing happens of any significance apart from maybe another similar incident?

not at all. because nothing is pretty much what will happen except for a few more bombs.

Confucius Sep 22nd 2008 2:18 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by The Dean (Post 6805416)
If you'd like me and my two brothers-in-law (who make Arnold Schwarzenegger look like an Oxfam poster) to come round and discuss his selfishness face-to-face, let me know.

Wow...You're such a macho man...

sassypilotswife Sep 22nd 2008 6:03 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6807766)
there are already too many UK servicemen and women been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan over US policies that our government pandered down to.

Putting armed forces into Pakistan, whilst is the usual american kick ass chuck norris is my lovechild kneejerk reaction, in reality it would be tantamount to another 'Iraqi freedom' debacle.


Another idiocracy statement from such a loathe, to blame the US for sending over UK service men/women. Are you familiar with NATO ? The UK was in NATO before the US was. The only problem I see that the US has done more of is spend my tax dollars. We've given over half of the monies spent over there of all countries combined and if you think that the US has control over your UK goverment then call your Prime Minister and inform him LOL! There have been too many lives lost altogether, not just UK. Also, I don't agree with the loss of life but I also didn't see any of those persons drafted. Geeze did the aliens forget to remove your anal probe before bringing you back ? I agree with Sheikh Mohammad, we are in the wrong war. You are correct Inseffelan, we should have stayed there and that idiot Bill Clinton had his hands on BinLaden and didn't have him killed when he could have. Not all Americans support the war in Iraq, I happen to be one of them that does not. I lost a firefighter i worked with who was very dear to me. I also lost friends in the WTC. The War is by far not pretty but being over there has kept it from being over here and in the UK thus far. Iraq will never be a democratic society. Saddam is dead. It's time to move on and continue in Afghanistan terrorist hunting.

arbroath_abroad Sep 22nd 2008 6:20 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
Our prime minister at the time is no longer in charge. And he did pander to bush, as did his cabinet yes men.

Hey what do I know eh? Having attended briefs in iraq and baharain with the uk defence secretary, being pre-briefed not to ever bring up any anti-us sentiment as he was very concerned at general perception of not only the public, but the UK armed forces also. Hey we were more concerned about a blue on blue with the yanks than any threat the iraqis offered.

Hey but again, what do I know...

And also how can I forget my appearance on TV in mid March 03. That was fun just after witnessing the aftermath of 2 of our helo's going down about 500m from us..

So you think what you like about me, I base my opinions on my personal experiences.

Not daft yank ideologies.

Inselaffen Sep 22nd 2008 8:05 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6808992)
Another idiocracy statement from such a loathe, to blame the US for sending over UK service men/women. Are you familiar with NATO ? The UK was in NATO before the US was. The only problem I see that the US has done more of is spend my tax dollars. We've given over half of the monies spent over there of all countries combined and if you think that the US has control over your UK goverment then call your Prime Minister and inform him LOL! There have been too many lives lost altogether, not just UK. Also, I don't agree with the loss of life but I also didn't see any of those persons drafted. Geeze did the aliens forget to remove your anal probe before bringing you back ? I agree with Sheikh Mohammad, we are in the wrong war. You are correct Inseffelan, we should have stayed there and that idiot Bill Clinton had his hands on BinLaden and didn't have him killed when he could have. Not all Americans support the war in Iraq, I happen to be one of them that does not. I lost a firefighter i worked with who was very dear to me. I also lost friends in the WTC. The War is by far not pretty but being over there has kept it from being over here and in the UK thus far. Iraq will never be a democratic society. Saddam is dead. It's time to move on and continue in Afghanistan terrorist hunting.

not exactly right. UK and US entered into the North Atlantic Treaty at the same time.

sassypilotswife Sep 22nd 2008 10:44 pm

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
That technically is true in regards to the NATO agreement. NATO actually began as the Treaty of Brussels back in 1948 which included the UK and not the US. The US was asked to participate and necessary to counter military power of the USSR hence NATO was born. So hail hath no fury if anyone screws with the US or the UK and that is why NATO comes into play against smaller countries. Its to keep alliance with all of Europe, Canada, Portugal etc..

arbroath_abroad Sep 23rd 2008 2:50 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6809766)
That technically is true in regards to the NATO agreement. NATO actually began as the Treaty of Brussels back in 1948 which included the UK and not the US. The US was asked to participate and necessary to counter military power of the USSR hence NATO was born. So hail hath no fury if anyone screws with the US or the UK and that is why NATO comes into play against smaller countries. Its to keep alliance with all of Europe, Canada, Portugal etc..

if you had also used google for Europe, you would have found out that Portugal is actually in Europe.

And i agree HELL hath no fury if anyone screws with the US, or has a large oil base....

Madam Medusa Sep 23rd 2008 3:48 am

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Originally Posted by arbroath_abroad (Post 6810142)
if you had also used google for Europe, you would have found out that Portugal is actually in Europe.

hahahahahaha...cmon, she's a yank, give her a break...

MM, xx

sassypilotswife Sep 23rd 2008 4:12 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
No worries here, i'm very familiar with Europe, and I know where Portugal is. Instead of typing UK, i typed Europe so spank me. Be nice or i'll kick you with an Ugg boot young man.

MM.. i don't need a break.. but a stiff drink would be nice! We could meet in Spain, it's right out of Arkansas isn't it :P

Charismatic Sep 23rd 2008 6:43 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6810280)
so spank me

My office in a quarter of an hour young lady. Lucky I keep a paddle handy isn't it? :p

sassypilotswife Sep 23rd 2008 6:57 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
I'll bring the wine.. corkscrew required

Charismatic Sep 23rd 2008 7:13 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 

Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6810541)
I'll bring the wine.. corkscrew required

Christ girl, your eager to be gaped.

That's put me right off not, wayyy too easy :(.

sassypilotswife Sep 23rd 2008 7:18 am

Re: That bomb in Pakistan
 
LOL being as how im still in the States, you're safe and I don't respond to alcohol that way.. just for good conversation. and besides.. i'd be wearing those hideous crocs LOL

Charismatic Sep 23rd 2008 7:25 am

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Originally Posted by sassypilotswife (Post 6810575)
only great conversation

Remind me never to have a "great conversation" with you :unsure:. Actually go and stand in the "quiet corner" and take an atlas with you ;).


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