Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > Middle East > The Sand Pit
Reload this Page >

Bicycles - what to buy?

Bicycles - what to buy?

Thread Tools
 
Old Jul 28th 2011, 9:21 am
  #31  
If I have to explain...
Thread Starter
 
Roadking's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Where ever the road takes me
Posts: 3,999
Roadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by typical
Why's that?

They're built to a price, yes, but there's still thought put into the components in a way a generic Chinese brand from the supermarket doesn't have.

I agree that for 50% extra on the price it'd be well worth looking Trek. But if you're going budget, Decathlon bikes are actually really quite decent. Well engineered, branded components that aren't scraping the bottom of the barrel.
I would also agree but the cheapest Trek is at least double the price. That doesn't make sense to me for a couple of weeks a year regardless of how many years we keep them.
Roadking is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 9:31 am
  #32  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 193
paca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nice
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
I would also agree but the cheapest Trek is at least double the price. That doesn't make sense to me for a couple of weeks a year regardless of how many years we keep them.

OK, I tried, I give up, Im not a salesman and don't really care what you buy in the end. I was just trying to have you avoid the mistake most make(buy the cheapest whatever). TBH I have no idea on decathelon bikes only that they fit the cheap crap pattern(possibly wrong hearing the other comments). If you only had 1 bike to buy I guess you wouldnt have to worry

you did ask "What do we need to consider, what are the must haves and nice to haves. The bikes will only be used when we are home so not expensive stuff"

You should have asked "Whats the cheapest bike I can get?"

Let us know how it works out
paca is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 9:39 am
  #33  
If I have to explain...
Thread Starter
 
Roadking's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Where ever the road takes me
Posts: 3,999
Roadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by paca
OK, I tried, I give up, Im not a salesman and don't really care what you buy in the end. I was just trying to have you avoid the mistake most make(buy the cheapest whatever). TBH I have no idea on decathelon bikes only that they fit the cheap crap pattern(possibly wrong hearing the other comments). If you only had 1 bike to buy I guess you wouldnt have to worry

you did ask "What do we need to consider, what are the must haves and nice to haves. The bikes will only be used when we are home so not expensive stuff"

You should have asked "Whats the cheapest bike I can get?"

Let us know how it works out
Hear what you are saying but twice the price is difficult to justify when I compare the mens where they both use shimano gears, alloy frames, alloy hubs etc. The cheapest Trek is £400.

I do appreciate the feedback and will now look for the cheapest, nastiest piece of tat I can find for Mrs and Mini. I still fancy the Foxy ones ;-)
Roadking is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 9:42 am
  #34  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 193
paca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nice
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
The cheapest Trek is £400.

£250 - free delivery
http://www.scotbycycles.co.uk/bikes-...nyx-2011-p1069
paca is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 10:04 am
  #35  
 
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 227
WakeUp is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
Hear what you are saying but twice the price is difficult to justify when I compare the mens where they both use shimano gears, alloy frames, alloy hubs etc. The cheapest Trek is £400.

I do appreciate the feedback and will now look for the cheapest, nastiest piece of tat I can find for Mrs and Mini. I still fancy the Foxy ones ;-)
A bit of mud wouldn't go amiss either......
WakeUp is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 10:08 am
  #36  
If I have to explain...
Thread Starter
 
Roadking's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Where ever the road takes me
Posts: 3,999
Roadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by paca
Dat's a mountain bike, we need hybrid for comfort but good site, I will peruse at leisure.
Roadking is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 10:44 am
  #37  
Hit 16's
 
Bahtatboy's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine
Posts: 13,112
Bahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

A dilemma indeed. If it was just one bike, then it would virtually a no-brainer to go for the cheapest top-brand one (eg Trek), but if you're forking out for three...

All I can say is that with the bikes I have at home (in UK), the difference between the cheapo ones and the good (GBP500+) ones is huge. Really HUGE. My Trek mountain bike gets use about twice a year, but still feels like new and is a joy to ride. My elder's son's GBP600-ish road bike tends to be laid up at least half the year, but its still smooth and easy to ride. We bought a cheapo for my wife (her choice), but even that was 200-ish and its 'orrible.

Dunno about resale of the good ones, but I do know you can't sell the crap ones secondhand unless you're really lucky, and they're worth f all as trade in.

The difference in riding a cheapo and, say, a Trek is akin to the difference between riding a modern, top-brand motorbike and something Eastern European from 30 years ago. I bought the first "modern" bike in our household about 5 years ago, a 600 pound-ish road bike for me and my elder son. I hadn't been on a road bike for about 10 years, but before then had done a huge amount (nothing serious, just frequent). I honestly could not believe the difference which the "new" technology brought--brakes, gears and power-transfer all smooth, seamless and efficient, and a totally joined-up feel: as if the bike was actually adding something to the energy I was expending, rather than detracting from it.

Really, if you can afford to get something like a Trek, your two weeks every year will be infinitely more enjoyable.
Bahtatboy is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 10:51 am
  #38  
If I have to explain...
Thread Starter
 
Roadking's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Where ever the road takes me
Posts: 3,999
Roadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Bahtatboy
A dilemma indeed. If it was just one bike, then it would virtually a no-brainer to go for the cheapest top-brand one (eg Trek), but if you're forking out for three...

All I can say is that with the bikes I have at home (in UK), the difference between the cheapo ones and the good (GBP500+) ones is huge. Really HUGE. My Trek mountain bike gets use about twice a year, but still feels like new and is a joy to ride. My elder's son's GBP600-ish road bike tends to be laid up at least half the year, but its still smooth and easy to ride. We bought a cheapo for my wife (her choice), but even that was 200-ish and its 'orrible.

Dunno about resale of the good ones, but I do know you can't sell the crap ones secondhand unless you're really lucky, and they're worth f all as trade in.

The difference in riding a cheapo and, say, a Trek is akin to the difference between riding a modern, top-brand motorbike and something Eastern European from 30 years ago. I bought the first "modern" bike in our household about 5 years ago, a 600 pound-ish road bike for me and my elder son. I hadn't been on a road bike for about 10 years, but before then had done a huge amount (nothing serious, just frequent). I honestly could not believe the difference which the "new" technology brought--brakes, gears and power-transfer all smooth, seamless and efficient, and a totally joined-up feel: as if the bike was actually adding something to the energy I was expending, rather than detracting from it.

Really, if you can afford to get something like a Trek, your two weeks every year will be infinitely more enjoyable.
Aaaw FFS, I had just about made up my mind before you started on about motorbikes.

OK, what about Raleigh? Are they decent, crap or somewhere in the middle.

http://www.bikesdirect365.com/produc...e%2C-Mens.html

Would a Trek mountain bike be more comfortable than the Hybrids from Decathalon or Bikes Direct?

http://www.bikesdirect365.com/produc...2C-Ladies.html

I'm confused now!

Oh, and don't forget I ride a Harley

Last edited by Roadking; Jul 28th 2011 at 10:56 am.
Roadking is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 11:00 am
  #39  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 193
paca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nice
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

go mountainbike as you are not doing 100's of miles... better value for money weather you go trek or cheaper. I think hybrids are too specialist. You can get road biased tyres for MTB's

Good post on the quality from BB, so true in how you describe it being "joined up". My marin was like that

Last edited by paca; Jul 28th 2011 at 11:01 am. Reason: added tyre bit
paca is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 11:02 am
  #40  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 193
paca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nice
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
Oh, and don't forget I ride a Harley

You should immediatly buy a branded one as you must understand what a quality product adds to enjoyment
paca is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 11:11 am
  #41  
If I have to explain...
Thread Starter
 
Roadking's Avatar
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Location: Where ever the road takes me
Posts: 3,999
Roadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond reputeRoadking has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by paca
You should immediatly buy a branded one as you must understand what a quality product adds to enjoyment
Read my signature
Roadking is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 12:10 pm
  #42  
Hit 16's
 
Bahtatboy's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine
Posts: 13,112
Bahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
Read my signature
If you haven't ridden a bicycle for some time, you'll need more than bragging about your Harley to get sex--it'll be ice packs and Viagra, buddy.
Bahtatboy is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 12:18 pm
  #43  
Hit 16's
 
Bahtatboy's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Location: Of all the gin joints, in all the towns, in all the world, she walks into mine
Posts: 13,112
Bahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond reputeBahtatboy has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by Roadking
Aaaw FFS, I had just about made up my mind before you started on about motorbikes.

OK, what about Raleigh? Are they decent, crap or somewhere in the middle.

http://www.bikesdirect365.com/produc...e%2C-Mens.html

Would a Trek mountain bike be more comfortable than the Hybrids from Decathalon or Bikes Direct?

http://www.bikesdirect365.com/produc...2C-Ladies.html

I'm confused now!

Oh, and don't forget I ride a Harley
I spend most of my life confused, why should you be any different?

My Trek mountain bike is, in itself, fine on the road: relatively relaxed riding position, sufficient gears, easily manouverable, comfortable suspension. But its not quick, and I hadn't realised how quick a bike can be till I got on the road bike: man, the new ones make me appreciate mechanical advantage. And although you're not after speed, if you're doing a good number of miles a day then you'll expend far more energy on a mountain bike than you would on a road bike--not necessarily a bad thing if you're my current shape...

On the other hand, you'd need to get the saddle / handlebar height set up right for a holiday on a road bike--its unlikely you'll want your arse in the air and craning your next just to look forwards. I don't think must road bikes come nowadays with an adjustable handlebar stem. Going from sit-up-and-beg on your Harley to your-arse-in-the-air on a road bike would be quite a change.
Bahtatboy is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 12:31 pm
  #44  
Not an evil hypnotist
 
typical's Avatar
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 1,975
typical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond reputetypical has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

The above's all true. Bicycles are a clear instance of "you get what you pay for". However, it's still true that you pay a premium for the brand.

I commuted into London for years on a Decathlon hybrid, and a few times borrowed my housemate's Trek (a rather heavier bike) - and frankly, I was hard pushed to tell the difference except the Trek handled much better at high speeds (20mph+).

Decathlon is a French-owned sports superstore and a lot of their own-brand kit is surprisingly good. Their bikes have a good reputation - there have been Decathlon bikes in the TdF, ridden by the team AG2R a few years back. You can't compare to the rubbish Apollo stuff from Halfords.
typical is offline  
Old Jul 28th 2011, 12:35 pm
  #45  
Forum Regular
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Location: Dubai
Posts: 193
paca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nicepaca is just really nice
Default Re: Bicycles - what to buy?

Originally Posted by typical
Decathlon is a French-owned sports superstore and a lot of their own-brand kit is surprisingly good. Their bikes have a good reputation - there have been Decathlon bikes in the TdF, ridden by the team AG2R a few years back. You can't compare to the rubbish Apollo stuff from Halfords.
True... I did a little research just to make sure I wasn't being blinkered... it seams there is a middle(vfm) ground between crap and entry level good quality
paca is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.