Assisted Suicide
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:10 pm
#16
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Re: Assisted Suicide
I won't comment on your situation because I can't and couldn't comprehend how hard that must be.
My question is for the last bit, who should make the decisions? Court of Law? In slow progressive illnesses someone can make the decision early, but in an accident where 'quality' of life is lost and the person is deemed unable to make their own decision, then who should get to?
My question is for the last bit, who should make the decisions? Court of Law? In slow progressive illnesses someone can make the decision early, but in an accident where 'quality' of life is lost and the person is deemed unable to make their own decision, then who should get to?
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:11 pm
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Bluecat-
Ok I appear to opening up to the world today, my mum is terminally ill - a slow progressive illness and we have had this converstaion and it is a converstaion I wish noone else to have to have and until you are in the situation it is impossible to decide what you would do.
So, Yes, If I had to I would do it, as much as it would break my heart. My brother feels differently to me but at the end of the day my mum knows her limits. She was diagnosed the year I was born so has had a lifetimes worth of struggling so when she feels she has had enough I think you have to respect that no matter how hard it is for those left behind. Her mental state is kosher and will remain so as much as anyone elses.
Every case is individual and should be treated as so.
Ok I appear to opening up to the world today, my mum is terminally ill - a slow progressive illness and we have had this converstaion and it is a converstaion I wish noone else to have to have and until you are in the situation it is impossible to decide what you would do.
So, Yes, If I had to I would do it, as much as it would break my heart. My brother feels differently to me but at the end of the day my mum knows her limits. She was diagnosed the year I was born so has had a lifetimes worth of struggling so when she feels she has had enough I think you have to respect that no matter how hard it is for those left behind. Her mental state is kosher and will remain so as much as anyone elses.
Every case is individual and should be treated as so.
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:12 pm
#18
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Re: Assisted Suicide
What about when someone is lay on a hospital bed being kept alive by machine...?
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:14 pm
#19
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Bluecat-
Ok I appear to opening up to the world today, my mum is terminally ill - a slow progressive illness and we have had this converstaion and it is a converstaion I wish noone else to have to have and until you are in the situation it is impossible to decide what you would do.
So, Yes, If I had to I would do it, as much as it would break my heart. My brother feels differently to me but at the end of the day my mum knows her limits. She was diagnosed the year I was born so has had a lifetimes worth of struggling so when she feels she has had enough I think you have to respect that no matter how hard it is for those left behind. Her mental state is kosher and will remain so as much as anyone elses.
Every case is individual and should be treated as so.
Ok I appear to opening up to the world today, my mum is terminally ill - a slow progressive illness and we have had this converstaion and it is a converstaion I wish noone else to have to have and until you are in the situation it is impossible to decide what you would do.
So, Yes, If I had to I would do it, as much as it would break my heart. My brother feels differently to me but at the end of the day my mum knows her limits. She was diagnosed the year I was born so has had a lifetimes worth of struggling so when she feels she has had enough I think you have to respect that no matter how hard it is for those left behind. Her mental state is kosher and will remain so as much as anyone elses.
Every case is individual and should be treated as so.
but at this stage she could commit suicide if she wanted to (god forbid) I am thinking more of paraplegics who want to end their lives
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:17 pm
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Re: Assisted Suicide
If you don't have a living will already then I suggest you get one.
At the end of the day you have to believe in the good of people and that your wishes will be carried out by those you love with no hidden agenda. Of course this leaves the door open to abuse, however for the majority of people there is no getting rid of a family member or thinking of insurance payouts. At the end of the day (most)people want the best for their family members and would make the best decision possible.
For me terminal illnesses in final stages, brain damage, long term coma are my switch off times. If I broke my back and was in a wheelchair then I could cope but the above are my cut off point where I would want to stop being fed and let to die.
The Hippocratic Oath is about improving the quality of life - prolonging life for the sake of it when there is no quality is not humane in my book.
At the end of the day you have to believe in the good of people and that your wishes will be carried out by those you love with no hidden agenda. Of course this leaves the door open to abuse, however for the majority of people there is no getting rid of a family member or thinking of insurance payouts. At the end of the day (most)people want the best for their family members and would make the best decision possible.
For me terminal illnesses in final stages, brain damage, long term coma are my switch off times. If I broke my back and was in a wheelchair then I could cope but the above are my cut off point where I would want to stop being fed and let to die.
The Hippocratic Oath is about improving the quality of life - prolonging life for the sake of it when there is no quality is not humane in my book.
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:22 pm
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Elmer,
I was having a converstation on something similar with a colleague today.
As my mum always says to me her illness has ruined her life she doesn't want it to ruin mine as well. So live everyday as if its your last as you never know whats around the corner.
I was having a converstation on something similar with a colleague today.
As my mum always says to me her illness has ruined her life she doesn't want it to ruin mine as well. So live everyday as if its your last as you never know whats around the corner.
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:22 pm
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Re: Assisted Suicide
I won't comment on your situation because I can't and couldn't comprehend how hard that must be.
My question is for the last bit, who should make the decisions? Court of Law? In slow progressive illnesses someone can make the decision early, but in an accident where 'quality' of life is lost and the person is deemed unable to make their own decision, then who should get to?
My question is for the last bit, who should make the decisions? Court of Law? In slow progressive illnesses someone can make the decision early, but in an accident where 'quality' of life is lost and the person is deemed unable to make their own decision, then who should get to?
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:23 pm
#26
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Sorry, you are right, it was a BBC2 special, here is the link, hope it works
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13768354
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13768354
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:24 pm
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Doctors can of course refuse to participate, I lived in a religious area back home and a lot of my friends who had lived there all their lives changed doctors at some point just for that reason as they wanted one that would agree with participating.
I am all for it...quality of life is more important than life, you make the desicion yourself if you want to, not 'God' or anyone else.
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:26 pm
#29
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Re: Assisted Suicide
Sorry, you are right, it was a BBC2 special, here is the link, hope it works
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13768354
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-13768354
Jun 22nd 2011, 1:26 pm
#30
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Re: Assisted Suicide
My point is knowing when someone in a near similar state wants to or does not want to die.