Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH

Not quite sure what you're getting at? For you races never existed? Well, they do.

There's a lot of subtle and not so subtle racism in Europe, including the UK. I don't think Europeans should be patting themselves on the back anytime soon just because non-whites were practically non-existent in Europe until 50 or so years ago. The European colonial powers did not have nice racial track records in their respective colonies and even Sweden had a few slave owning colonies in the Caribbean at one point. Eastern Europe is heavily racist to this day. And let's not forget that white America is directly descended from settlers from....Europe.

That America, with its much more direct, combative and ugly history of racism is able to turn around quickly and directly elect political leaders from non-white backgrounds is to be much more congratulated than anything in Europe, where political leaders are usually elected by parties and imposed on the population, and not directly by the voters (a very different scenario). Obama may be the first black president, but in recent years two deep Southern states with brutally ugly history of racism directly elected non-whites to governorship and senator positions (Louisiana and South Carolina elected Indian-Americans as governors and South Carolina elected a black Republican senator).

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH

Not quite sure what you're getting at? For you races never existed? Well, they do.

There's a lot of subtle and not so subtle racism in Europe, including the UK. I don't think Europeans should be patting themselves on the back anytime soon just because non-whites were practically non-existent in Europe until 50 or so years ago. The European colonial powers did not have nice racial track records in their respective colonies and even Sweden had a few slave owning colonies in the Caribbean at one point. Eastern Europe is heavily racist to this day. And let's not forget that white America is directly descended from settlers from....Europe.

That America, with its much more direct, combative and ugly history of racism is able to turn around quickly and directly elect political leaders from non-white backgrounds is to be much more congratulated than anything in Europe, where political leaders are usually elected by parties and imposed on the population, and not directly by the voters (a very different scenario). Obama may be the first black president, but in recent years two deep Southern states with brutally ugly history of racism directly elected non-whites to governorship and senator positions (Louisiana and South Carolina elected Indian-Americans as governors and South Carolina elected a black Republican senator).

Originally Posted by carcajou

The poster also brought up Ireland. Ireland has no history of people EVER discriminating or lashing out in violence against a person on the basis of something so frivolous as their religion, does it?

Originally Posted by Moses2013

How do you know that races exist? You only believe it because that's what they told you and you don't know any better. That's the point, as most people believe racism is based on skin colour and where you're from. If you look to other countries, the Indian manager could be treating workers like shit, but because for you they are from the so called same race it's not racism.

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH

Of course race exists. A white man and a black man look pretty different, don't they? To quote wiki: A race of humans is a grouping based on shared physical traits, ancestry, or genetics. Although such groupings lack a firm basis in modern biology, they continue to have a strong influence over contemporary social relations.

To try pretend race doesn't exist and is only imposed is silly. The entire history of humanity is about race and racial groups and the interrelationship between racial groups (as well as ethnicity and religions)

Originally Posted by Scamp

Is this some shit competition trying to find out which country or region is the most racist?

Originally Posted by Moses2013

There Is No Such Thing as Race
In 1950, the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO) issued a statement asserting that all humans belong to the same species and that “race” is not a biological reality but a myth. This was a summary of the findings of an international panel of anthropologists, geneticists, sociologists, and psychologists.


Thus, the concept of human races is real. It is not a biological reality, however, but a cultural one. Race is not a part of our biology, but it is definitely a part of our culture. Race and racism are deeply ingrained in our history.




As said, it's only because you don't know any better and grew up with the belief, so it's your culture but not biological reality.

Originally Posted by carcajou

Don't be silly. We all know that's the Middle East.

Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH

Where is my eye rolling emoticon when one needs it?

Race does exist - even if we accept it solely a human construct (shall we have a frank discussion on why white Europeans, black Africans and brown Asians have strongly different genetic features for our appearances? Is that a human social construct? As it is, a topic for a different thread).

Because race is commonly accepted by just about everyone as an existing and recognisable factor, it is a presence in our world. You can't brush it aside and claim "race" doesn't exist. There's some Black Lives Matters supporters who'd like to have a word or two with you. What you are merely doing is arguing over semantics.

Originally Posted by carcajou

PS - Your post was extraordinarily condescending. You don't know if these posters are all white, nor do you actually know where any of us grew up, live, or what any of us do for a living.