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Old Jan 27th 2014, 4:21 am
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Originally Posted by The Dean
So why ARE they restricting cash withdrawals then?
I agree it is weird, but surely it is also the stupidest thing they could do if they wanted to avoid mass-withdrawals..
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 4:55 am
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Originally Posted by norsk
I agree it is weird, but surely it is also the stupidest thing they could do if they wanted to avoid mass-withdrawals..
Bit of lax of the BBC to run a story on some anecdotal evidence from one customer who had some difficulties taking out some cash.

Edit to say; after the last bank crash fiasco I would have a fairly low opinion of so called bank/financial 'analysts'
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Originally Posted by TheShed
Most analysts rate HSBC shares a 'buy', arguing the bank has plenty of excess capital. Deutsche Bank reckons the lender has $500bn in excess deposits and liquidity and will benefit strongly when interest rates rise.
So another Bank says that there is no problem, avert your eyes and buy up big.

Well they would say that, wouldn't they.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by Bongoman2
So another Bank says that there is no problem, avert your eyes and buy up big.

Well they would say that, wouldn't they.
Fair point, but DB's statement was made some time ago. Long before this story emerged.

Its also interesting (to me at least) that HSBC have actually issued a statement stating that the policy has now been retracted.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 6:14 am
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I can tell you that this policy is in full affect in Bur Dubai right now. I'm just about to meet the manager.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 6:23 am
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Default Re: Anyone heard some VERY worrying rumours.........

Originally Posted by TheShed
Fair point, but DB's statement was made some time ago. Long before this story emerged.

Its also interesting (to me at least) that HSBC have actually issued a statement stating that the policy has now been retracted.
According to what I've read, the policy had been retracted BEFORE the story broke. I view that as the ****ing media hyping things just for the sake of sensationalism. If anyone actually KNOWS any different, please speak up.

Originally Posted by Millhouse
I can tell you that this policy is in full affect in Bur Dubai right now. I'm just about to meet the manager.
But you're talking about the Dark Ages here. However, please let us know how it goes.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 6:40 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
I can tell you that this policy is in full affect in Bur Dubai right now. I'm just about to meet the manager.
Interesting. Please let us know what you discover.

Also, please let us know what you need large amounts of cash for . Are you taking all of the BE'ers out for a big pub crawl?
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 6:46 am
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Originally Posted by shiva
this is how a run on a bank starts.

out of interest who is happy with their offshore bank and who do you use? other than hsbc of course
I use Lloyds International in Jersey - service good, interest sh1t.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 7:43 am
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Originally Posted by Millsyisland
interest sh1t.
That's offshore banking in general though, right?
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 7:49 am
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Originally Posted by Millsyisland
I use Lloyds International in Jersey - service good, interest sh1t.
ta, interest isnt an issue as its not savings as such
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 8:18 am
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Originally Posted by TheShed
Interesting. Please let us know what you discover.

Also, please let us know what you need large amounts of cash for . Are you taking all of the BE'ers out for a big pub crawl?
Well, the withdrawal was long overdue so it was a bit larger than normal. I've been lazy and the thought of a run on the bank in the UK in 2 hours time combined with a meeting in Bur Dubai this morning incentivised me to pop in.

Apparently as of September they need proof of where the money is going. My little friend in the money shop also wanted similar details for the transfer back -- although he always ask, I always say no and he does the transfer.

HSBC wanted to do the transfer but could not come remotely close to the rate I was offered and so after a quick chat and some tea with the manager I was allowed to take the money. The deal is I am to send them the receipt of the transfer when I'm done. Others in the queue were taking out large sums without much issue.

It really does seem more about money laundering in my opinion as they were more than happy to let the money leave if they transferred it. The problem was cash handling, which given their recent fines is pretty understandable.

Of course, all that is left in there now is the rent due next week.

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Old Jan 27th 2014, 8:34 am
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Originally Posted by Millhouse
Well, the withdrawal was long overdue so it was a bit larger than normal. I've been lazy and the thought of a run on the bank in the UK in 2 hours time combined with a meeting in Bur Dubai this morning incentivised me to pop in.

Apparently as of September they need proof of where the money is going. My little friend in the money shop also wanted similar details for the transfer back -- although he always ask, I always say no and he does the transfer.

HSBC wanted to do the transfer but could not come remotely close to the rate I was offered and so after a quick chat and some tea with the manager I was allowed to take the money. The deal is I am to send them the receipt of the transfer when I'm done. Others in the queue were taking out large sums without much issue.

It really does seem more about money laundering in my opinion as they were more than happy to let the money leave if they transferred it. The problem was cash handling, which given their recent fines is pretty understandable.

Of course, all that is left in there now is the rent due next week.
So, nothing new of substance, then. There's been a gradual tightening of money movements over the past decade in order to combal money laundering, and in my view HSBC in UK just got a bit overzealous recently coupled with their wish to try to slow down exit of cash. I don't see any conspiracy in this.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 8:58 am
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So, nothing new of substance, then. There's been a gradual tightening of money movements over the past decade in order to combal money laundering, and in my view HSBC in UK just got a bit overzealous recently coupled with their wish to try to slow down exit of cash. I don't see any conspiracy in this.
spot on.
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Old Jan 27th 2014, 9:33 am
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Originally Posted by The Dean
So why ARE they restricting cash withdrawals then?
I just withdrew Dhs5,000 out of curiosity. No problems experienced. Mountain and molehill spring to mind.
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I just withdrew Dhs5,000 out of curiosity. No problems experienced. Mountain and molehill spring to mind.
You can withdraw up to AED 8,000 a day from the HSBC ATM so I don't think this amount would concern them in any event.
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