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mission Oct 8th 2017 11:23 pm

Re: Another One Locked Up
 
it's hard to believe that a dude with wasta like this (assuming it was wasta)would actually go to Rock Bottom...i mean seriously that place is totally rank.

DXBtoDOH Oct 8th 2017 11:26 pm

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 12356950)
well doesn't the sun just shine outta ya ar*e!

It is astonishing now much simple and relevant information is outright ignored by so many expats in Dubai. Everything from the laws on alcohol to RERA regulations and rental increases. I'm not targeting you specifically, Mission, but just making an observation. :cool:

DXBtoDOH Oct 8th 2017 11:27 pm

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 12356959)
it's hard to believe that a dude with wasta like this (assuming it was wasta)would actually go to Rock Bottom...i mean seriously that place is totally rank.

Sometimes rank is fun ;)

mission Oct 8th 2017 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12356969)
It is astonishing now much simple and relevant information is outright ignored by so many expats in Dubai. Everything from the laws on alcohol to RERA regulations and rental increases. I'm not targeting you specifically, Mission, but just making an observation. :cool:

fair play - i guess for most until they are actually caught, you aren't aware of it.

Miss Ann Thrope Oct 8th 2017 11:46 pm

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Originally Posted by DXBtoDOH (Post 12356969)
It is astonishing now much simple and relevant information about fellow posters sexual orientation is outright ignored by so many Britishexpats.com posters in Dubai. Everything from disturbing references to SZR sex parties to the unavailability of suitable mates in this region. I'm targeting you specifically, Mission, and just making an observation. :cool:

Fixed that.

mission Oct 8th 2017 11:50 pm

Re: Another One Locked Up
 

Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope (Post 12357005)
Fixed that.

whats this pick on Mission day:p

DXBtoDOH Oct 8th 2017 11:57 pm

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Originally Posted by Miss Ann Thrope (Post 12357005)
Fixed that.

:lol:

NorthernLad Oct 9th 2017 12:26 am

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Originally Posted by mission (Post 12356904)
'Tourists who consume alcohol at licensed venues can still be arrested for having alcohol in their system. Most tourists are not aware of this fact. A number of British nationals have been caught out by this contradictory application of the law.'
i was not aware of this.

My understanding was, by the letter of the law, that tourists can only drink alcohol in the hotel they are staying in?

captainflack Oct 9th 2017 1:04 am

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I can see why everyone is saying there is more to this.

Because the Dubai constabulary are the finest in the world, there isn't another place on earth where officers of the law are more decent, upstanding and almost magically gifted in being able to detect who's guilty and who's innocent.

And very often they can do this on the spot without taking the subject back to the cells for a good kicking and a few shots of the taser.

Arnold S Oct 9th 2017 1:14 am

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Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 12357029)
My understanding was, by the letter of the law, that tourists can only drink alcohol in the hotel they are staying in?

Tourists are covered under the hotel's liquor license for the time they are on the premises, resident or not. A drunk guest that's nipped out for ciggies is no longer covered.

Dubaiexile Oct 9th 2017 1:15 am

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Originally Posted by NorthernLad (Post 12357029)
My understanding was, by the letter of the law, that tourists can only drink alcohol in the hotel they are staying in?

Nope the Law is quite clear, you have to have a licence to consume alcohol!!! Yes that is correct even to drink in a bar you are supposed to have a licence, it is not just for purchasing booze!!!!

You have to be a resident, over 21, non-muslim and earn over 3kAED.......and this is where Tourists/Visitors fal foul of the law, as they cannot apply for a licence and therefore are not allowed to consume alcohol!!!

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/uae-a...rists-1.296672

Dubaiexile Oct 9th 2017 1:15 am

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Originally Posted by Arnold S (Post 12357061)
Tourists are covered under the hotel's liquor license for the time they are on the premises, resident or not. A drunk guest that's nipped out for ciggies is no longer covered.

Not true see my previous post!

captainflack Oct 9th 2017 1:18 am

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Originally Posted by Dubaiexile (Post 12357062)
Nope the Law is quite clear, you have to have a licence to consume alcohol!!! Yes that is correct even to drink in a bar you are supposed to have a licence, it is not just for purchasing booze!!!!

You have to be a resident, over 21, non-muslim and earn over 3kAED.......and this is where Tourists/Visitors fal foul of the law, as they cannot apply for a licence and therefore are not allowed to consume alcohol!!!

https://www.thenational.ae/uae/uae-a...rists-1.296672

But it's pointless having laws, if you ignore them for everyone until you just want to nail some guys 4rse to the wall for whatever reason.

I think we all know that it really doesn't matter what the law is in Dubai, if you annoy the wrong person, you'll end up in jail regardless based on tying your shoes up in a pornographic fashion or having a hair style against sharia law or some other such nonsense. Eventually it'll get dropped, but in the mean time you'll be ruined, have spent months in a squalid jail and quite possibly worse.

Dubaiexile Oct 9th 2017 1:23 am

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Originally Posted by captainflack (Post 12357064)
But it's pointless having laws, if you ignore them for everyone until you just want to nail some guys 4rse to the wall for whatever reason.

I think we all know that it really doesn't matter what the law is in Dubai, if you annoy the wrong person, you'll end up in jail regardless based on tying your shoes up in a pornographic fashion or having a hair style against sharia law or some other such nonsense. Eventually it'll get dropped, but in the mean time you'll be ruined, have spent months in a squalid jail and quite possibly worse.

Quite true, which is why I was told if someone makes a complaint against you do the same to them immediately....just make something up no matter how bizarre...that way it gets adjudicated at the cop shop and all parties apologise and go home!

DXBtoDOH Oct 9th 2017 1:37 am

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Originally Posted by Dubaiexile (Post 12357068)
Quite true, which is why I was told if someone makes a complaint against you do the same to them immediately....just make something up no matter how bizarre...that way it gets adjudicated at the cop shop and all parties apologise and go home!

Yep.

I had a bad experience with a local in Qatar and this is exactly what I did.

Qatari dude had taken over a changing room at the first gym I joined (the changing rooms are not locked and are only meant for changing). He'd left his thobe hanging in there and some stuff and ostensibly closed the door as he didn't want anyone else using it, but it didn't shut properly.

Comes along me looking for an empty changing room and I go in and see his stuff in there and back out, just in time for him to come into the locker room. He accused me of stealing from him. Well, hotel got involved, management said changing rooms aren't meant to be for sole use, there's lockers, etc. Man still claimed 1,000 QAR was missing and wanted to call the police. I sat there thinking my whole life was about to fall apart and I was to end up on the DM cover page then I remembered what Dubaiexile said. I just started apologising, and I offered to give him the 1,000 QAR just as a token of respect as I'd somehow clearly offended him etc cetera.

The Qatari man backed down. He was clearly a bully and the hotel went a long way in soothing it out. But good god for a hour or so there I thought the shit had really hit the fan. The Qatari dude took the money from me, but then a few minutes later he gave it back and gave me a warning finger :unsure:

The hotel showered me with a lot of benefits as a compensation, so that helped. But it only illustrates that when you come across a local or any Arab and they're pissed off, pride or being right isn't worth it. Apologise, talk about understanding you accidentally offended their honour and respectability, apologise more, and leave it.


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