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Everyone will forget about it once the Premiership kicks off in a few weeks , it's always the same .

Ive enjoyed the Olympics , it's been great but once Rooney and Co pull on the boots the velodrome will become a distant memory...
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Originally Posted by Scamp
Nope. Not at all. Murray winning gold medals is about Team GB more than Murray.
Agree to a point - but as I stated I think he has really stepped up here. Coaching / carrying Robson to a level that will massively help her career and give her a huge boost. 2 medals in the bag that Team GB never expected or counted on.

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I'd rather see someone else win the likes of Wimbledon because I don't think Murray is good enough. In fact, he isn't. His career is proof of that. He might win Wimbledon one day but it will be a one off, I don't think he will win other grand slams. I'm big enough and daft enough to come to that opinion myself, without being influenced by media.
Murray is in the top 10 players ever. Fact. On results. Shame you can't get past your prejudices to support him You've probably noticed () I shout about every Murray match as I support him, like you support Southampton at football. It really seems not to be about ability but about the fact people don't like him many due to a comment when he was 19 about Anyone But England - which may be regrettable but also loads of 19 Scots might have said similar. He's always said he didn't really mean it. I've said the same when I was that age yet I scream and shout and support England unless they play Scotland... Should he still be beaten up for that comment all those years ago and not supported or at least be acknowledged for his achievements?

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Also, read his interview about Beijing compared with London. He admits he wasn't focused in Beijing and therefore underperformed. Not sure what I said about that was wrong.
Totally true - he's always said that. And this year he's in 2 gold medal finals.

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Are there not sports people you dislike? A lot of folk hate Craig Bellamy or think that Ryan Giggs is a cheating husband bastard....but there were a lot of people at each of the GB footie matches. Do you take issue with that as well?
I may dislike some, but not many. I really don't get in to that whole "I don't like him because he slept with his team mates wife" I don't really care. If he smashes in a 30 yard shot to win the World Cup great, I don't care who's backdoors he smashes in on his spare time. That's for OK! and Daily Mail readers to give a toss about.

I'll stick to supporting great GB teams and players, now and in the future.
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There always seems to be an issue....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennis_..._Mixed_doubles

My point is how many of the Men's top ten do you see in this initial draw?
Many of the pairings there are specialist doubles pairings, and neither of the players is even in the world top 100, but the mixed doubles is normally only seen at the majors, and a lot of the Wimbledon seeded mixed pairings were people not in the world top 100 in the singles rankings. Murray and Robson were put together for Wimbledon, and did well there, well enough to be the British Olympic entries. Often the doubles pairings at majors are from different countries as well
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Agree to a point - but as I stated I think he has really stepped up here. Coaching / carrying Robson to a level that will massively help her career and give her a huge boost. 2 medals in the bag that Team GB never expected or counted on.



Murray is in the top 10 players ever. Fact. On results. Shame you can't get past your prejudices to support him You've probably noticed () I shout about every Murray match as I support him, like you support Southampton at football. It really seems not to be about ability but about the fact people don't like him many due to a comment when he was 19 about Anyone But England - which may be regrettable but also loads of 19 Scots might have said similar. He's always said he didn't really mean it. I've said the same when I was that age yet I scream and shout and support England unless they play Scotland... Should he still be beaten up for that comment all those years ago and not supported or at least be acknowledged for his achievements?



Totally true - he's always said that. And this year he's in 2 gold medal finals.



I may dislike some, but not many. I really don't get in to that whole "I don't like him because he slept with his team mates wife" I don't really care. If he smashes in a 30 yard shot to win the World Cup great, I don't care who's backdoors he smashes in on his spare time. That's for OK! and Daily Mail readers to give a toss about.

I'll stick to supporting great GB teams and players, now and in the future.
I like this post. I get everything you say.

Good point on Robson too. The other female player who is good was a touch bitter but such is.
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Some interesting comments in this thread..........

Interesting that, in the middle of all the 'Murray - love him or hate him?' stuff, we forget that he is a team member at the Olympics, not like at Wimbledon where he competes as an individual (at the Olympics, look at the mini-scoreboard in the top left hand corner of the TV screen - it's "GBR" not "Murray"). I support him like I support Ennis or Wiggins.

Interesting comment about how he is helping Robson's career - hadn't thought about it that way, but I suppose it must be true, although I doubt if that crossed his mind pre-Games.

In terms of tennis generally as an Olympic sport, one anomaly is that it's the only sport (I think) in which men and women compete against each other in a physical sense (i.e. in mixed doubles) which was supposedly contrary to the Olympic Charter (equestrian etc doesn't count as direct one-to-one physical competition).

And I can certainly do without chavball at the Olympics. Handball though seems to be attracting quite a bit of general interest.........
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Waiting for the Murray finals- COME ON MURRAY > waves mini Union Jack excitedly! <
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And as I write, Venus and Serena........ er, I mean "USA" win the women's doubles............
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Oooooer.......... he's won...............
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"Murray is in the top 10 players ever."

Hang on. Just noticed that nugget. That's an impressive 'fact' because it's almost certainly not true mate.

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All that aside. What a result, another gold. Great stuff. Federer didn't look that interested and 31 errors. That's a lot for someone who actually is one of the top 10 ever.
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all that needs to be said is amazing result for Team GB.

Simply brilliant.
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Originally Posted by Scamp
"Murray is in the top 10 players ever."

Hang on. Just noticed that nugget. That's an impressive 'fact' because it's almost certainly not true mate.

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All that aside. What a result, another gold. Great stuff. Federer didn't look that interested and 31 errors. That's a lot for someone who actually is one of the top 10 ever.
Who is actually on the list of top 10 players ever?
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Originally Posted by Scamp
"Murray is in the top 10 players ever."

Hang on. Just noticed that nugget. That's an impressive 'fact' because it's almost certainly not true mate.

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All that aside. What a result, another gold. Great stuff. Federer didn't look that interested and 31 errors. That's a lot for someone who actually is one of the top 10 ever.
did you get up this morning and think - today I'm going to be a force ten hurricaneforcecunt on BE today?
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Hoorah for Murray > runs round wimbledon with Union Jack< Absolutely fantastic woohoooooooo!
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Happy to answer in full later - I'm going to watch more sport - but this is one example, but not the one I was referencing:-

Top 100 Men's Tennis Career Prize Money Leaders
Source: www.atpworldtour.com
Date: July 9, 2012


Rnk Player Total Earnings
1. Federer, Roger $72,918,077
2. Nadal, Rafael $50,061,827
3. Sampras, Pete $43,280,489
4. Djokovic, Novak $38,120,025
5. Agassi, Andre $31,152,975
6. Becker, Boris $25,080,956
7. Kafelnikov, Yevgeny $23,883,797
8. Murray, Andy $21,473,551
9. Lendl, Ivan $21,262,417
10. Edberg, Stefan $20,630,941
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I hope this finally gives him the belief to go on and win a grand slam title. He has the game - has had for about 4 years now, he just lacks that psychological edge to win the big matches. Only Roger in his pomp has a bigger range of shots to play. But he beat Djoko and Roger, both in straight sets, to win this. Especially in the semi-final he showed excellent mental strength to just grab and hold the opportunities when they came. Today he never let Roger in the match once he got the edge. That kind of ruthlessness has been missing before where he always seemed just a couple of shots away from going to pieces (viz. Aus semi-final this year and final last year against Djoko). And he kept it up right to the end: after losing the first point when serving for the match (always so hard to do) he nailed three aces to finish it. A dominant performance from a true maestro.

On top of all that, his response to the idiotic question at Wimbledon about how it must have felt for his family watching him is my sports quote of the year: "I'm not that bothered. It was much harder for me."

A real hero in one of the world's most popular sports - only in Britain would there be any doubters....
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