6 Nations
#1
6 Nations
Oh Dear,
just consulted the showtime guide and it looks like they are not showing the 6nations. Anyone know who is???
just consulted the showtime guide and it looks like they are not showing the 6nations. Anyone know who is???
#5
Re: 6 Nations
I knew this week was gonna be a bad one as soon as I agreed with Meow and MM...
Now I find myself agreeing with.... the shame... I can barely spit out the words... LH!!!
There is nothing like constructive criticism, Jeepsy, and that was NOTHING like constructive criticism.
Now I find myself agreeing with.... the shame... I can barely spit out the words... LH!!!
There is nothing like constructive criticism, Jeepsy, and that was NOTHING like constructive criticism.
#6
Re: 6 Nations
Settle down...it wasn't meant to be constructive criticism.
It was just a jibe at northern hemisphere rugby from an antipodean.
Geez.
Tough fuc.king room (note: it's the sandpit).
It was just a jibe at northern hemisphere rugby from an antipodean.
Geez.
Tough fuc.king room (note: it's the sandpit).
Last edited by Jeeper; Feb 2nd 2010 at 9:54 am.
#10
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Joined: May 2009
Location: Back in the best hemisphere...
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Re: 6 Nations
Oh stop it.
I saw a list of the top 6 players to "watch" in the 6 nations.
Craig Gower?
Such a dismal lack of talent on the field, and he's one to watch?
Truly, its time the northern hemisphere gave up playing rugby and went back to something that you are good at like......
I saw a list of the top 6 players to "watch" in the 6 nations.
Craig Gower?
Such a dismal lack of talent on the field, and he's one to watch?
Truly, its time the northern hemisphere gave up playing rugby and went back to something that you are good at like......
#12
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Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 13,553
Re: 6 Nations
The 6N is the most intense and passionate rugby tournament on the planet, and the Southern Hemisphere's perennial dismissal of it explains why, for example, the All Chokes have never won a real World Cup (apart from the first one, when they were the only full-time pro team, and were playing at home, and everyone else treated it like an end-of-season piss-up).
Stupor 14?
Latest score: Canterbury Archbishops 63, Ante-Natal Examiners 57...... who wants to watch 80 minutes of blatant missed tackles and obvious forward passes ignored by the Crowd Entertainment Officer.... er, sorry, I mean Referee............???
And don't get me started on NZ as a venue for the next RWC.......... the England fans alone will outnumber the available number of hotel rooms by about 1.5 to 1............ only three stadiums that can hold 50,000 or more? God help us..............
The Yarpies willl win it anyway of course, but that's not the point.............
Stupor 14?
Latest score: Canterbury Archbishops 63, Ante-Natal Examiners 57...... who wants to watch 80 minutes of blatant missed tackles and obvious forward passes ignored by the Crowd Entertainment Officer.... er, sorry, I mean Referee............???
And don't get me started on NZ as a venue for the next RWC.......... the England fans alone will outnumber the available number of hotel rooms by about 1.5 to 1............ only three stadiums that can hold 50,000 or more? God help us..............
The Yarpies willl win it anyway of course, but that's not the point.............
#13
Re: 6 Nations
The 6N is the most intense and passionate rugby tournament on the planet, and the Southern Hemisphere's perennial dismissal of it explains why, for example, the All Chokes have never won a real World Cup (apart from the first one, when they were the only full-time pro team, and were playing at home, and everyone else treated it like an end-of-season piss-up).
Stupor 14?
Latest score: Canterbury Archbishops 63, Ante-Natal Examiners 57...... who wants to watch 80 minutes of blatant missed tackles and obvious forward passes ignored by the Crowd Entertainment Officer.... er, sorry, I mean Referee............???
And don't get me started on NZ as a venue for the next RWC.......... the England fans alone will outnumber the available number of hotel rooms by about 1.5 to 1............ only three stadiums that can hold 50,000 or more? God help us..............
The Yarpies willl win it anyway of course, but that's not the point.............
Stupor 14?
Latest score: Canterbury Archbishops 63, Ante-Natal Examiners 57...... who wants to watch 80 minutes of blatant missed tackles and obvious forward passes ignored by the Crowd Entertainment Officer.... er, sorry, I mean Referee............???
And don't get me started on NZ as a venue for the next RWC.......... the England fans alone will outnumber the available number of hotel rooms by about 1.5 to 1............ only three stadiums that can hold 50,000 or more? God help us..............
The Yarpies willl win it anyway of course, but that's not the point.............
NZ as world cup chokers yeah - can't argue that.....but while it's called the world cup....it is an actuality a simple knock out tournament held once every four years that for no other reason than it's title, undeservingly carries a lot of weight. I know other codes' world cups are like this but surely something so important should seek to eliminate the 'on the day' syndrome. I know it's not possible however for many reasons.
I still to this day cannot understand how they lost the '99 '03 and '07. All 3 were for the taking. Chokes indeed.
However, the all blacks have consistently dominated almost every competition including many world cups other than the 1 game they eventually lost...dominated tri-nations (which is not a knock-out tournament), dominated tours both home and away and as I understand it....
NOT A SINGLE TRY BY ANY NORTHERN HEMISPHERE NATIONAL TEAM WAS SCORED AGAINST THE ALL BLACKS ON THE LAST NORTHERN HEMISPHERE TOUR......AND EVEN WORSE, NOR DID THEY SCORE ON THE TOUR BEFORE THAT! The northern hemisphere is simply playing football with a deformed ball.
Northern hemisphere teams playing in the super 14......you'd get a hiding to nothing.
The opening paragraphs of this are quite interesting...
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...0616661&pnum=0
Anyway - I think i'm wasting my time arguing for southern hemisphere rugby on BRITISH Expats.com
Last edited by Jeeper; Feb 2nd 2010 at 5:12 pm.
#14
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Re: 6 Nations
Brendan Gallagher of the Daily Torygraph put it as well as anyone - after NZ were knocked out in 07..........
All Blacks choke on arrogance
By Brendan Gallagher in Paris
Last Updated: 12:48am BST 09/10/2007
Where did it all go wrong? And even more importantly, why does it always go wrong? Those were the questions being asked by the shell-shocked, angry New Zealand rugby public yesterday as their beaten team headed home yet again without the World Cup, or even a sniff of it. Their fall from grace could not be more painful.
How can it be that the self-styled greatest rugby side on earth, championed by Adidas as the template for teamwork and success across the sporting world, yet again failed to deliver when it counted? No longer can they dismiss the 'choker' taunts – time after time the All Blacks redefine the term at World Cups.
Only once have New Zealand won the World Cup and that was when they hosted the inaugural competition in 1987, a tournament in which they were effectively the only professional team. Most of the other 'amateurs' pitched up for an end-of-season jolly and were not entirely sober for the duration.
If New Zealand are ever to regain the trophy which they believe is their birthright, they have got to get over themselves and take a long look at the way the rest of the rugby world perceives them. It will hurt, but the reward could be the Webb Ellis Cup.
The All Blacks are day in, day out probably the world's best rugby players but they have a fatal character trait – a pure, unattractive arrogance that trips them up every time. Occasionally some PR guru encourages them to show their nicer side, and in fairness the class of 2007 have tried hard, but it rarely lasts long and their administrators do them no favours.
To win sport's biggest prizes you have to absorb and learn, not lecture and preach. You must be humble. The All Blacks have never been humble, it is not in their DNA. They are told they are special from the moment they first pull on the famous shirt and they expect special treatment from the rest of the world at all times. The All Blacks ethos is their Achilles heel.
They are huge fish in a minute pool and everything they do or say goes unquestioned. If Graham Henry and the New Zealand Rugby Union want unilaterally to rip up the Super 14 and take their top 22 players out of the competition for special fitness training for two months, they plough right on ahead. If you happen to be Sky television, or the Australian and South African rugby unions, it is just tough. The All Blacks have spoken.
It was that arrogance and insularity that made them blindly defend Tana Umaga and Keven Mealamu when they nearly maimed Lions captain Brian O'Driscoll. They would have done the New Zealand game a much bigger service by banning the duo for two months apiece. Dream on.
There is extraordinary arrogance and pettiness over their commercially-driven haka, as though they were the only nation on earth allowed to express their individuality. So, too, the arrogant assumption that they always know better than the law-makers and referees. Unbelievable. Arm yourself with a law book guys, take an honest look at the match tapes and see just how much the All Blacks get away with.
They raid the Pacific to replenish their player stock, yet have New Zealand ever played a full international at Apia against Samoa by way of encouragement or even, perversely, a thank you? I think not. The truth is New Zealand are terrified that Samoa, Fiji and Tonga will get their act together and become competitive international teams who can hang on to their star players. On the evidence of France 2007, their worst nightmares could soon come true.
New Zealanders slag off the Six Nations incessantly but, bless them, miss the point entirely. Yes, the Tri-Nations is inherently more athletic and skilful, and produces some very watchable rugby, but the Six Nations is played on an epic scale, in giant stadiums packed with up to 80,000 mad, half-drunk partisans.
It embraces six rugby cultures, differing stadiums, climates and playing standards. The Six Nations breeds hard-nosed sporting brutes who regularly quarry out winning performances and learn how to win 'ugly'. Australia, with a wider sporting culture than New Zealand, also know how to win ugly, which is why they have taken two World Cups. In contrast when the lights go down and it comes to showtime, New Zealand suffer horribly from stage fright.
It is their isolation – mental as much as geographical – that makes New Zealand so vulnerable. If they came down off Mount Olympus and joined us rugby serfs more often they would get everything in better perspective. And the World Cup would almost certainly be their reward.
All Blacks choke on arrogance
By Brendan Gallagher in Paris
Last Updated: 12:48am BST 09/10/2007
Where did it all go wrong? And even more importantly, why does it always go wrong? Those were the questions being asked by the shell-shocked, angry New Zealand rugby public yesterday as their beaten team headed home yet again without the World Cup, or even a sniff of it. Their fall from grace could not be more painful.
How can it be that the self-styled greatest rugby side on earth, championed by Adidas as the template for teamwork and success across the sporting world, yet again failed to deliver when it counted? No longer can they dismiss the 'choker' taunts – time after time the All Blacks redefine the term at World Cups.
Only once have New Zealand won the World Cup and that was when they hosted the inaugural competition in 1987, a tournament in which they were effectively the only professional team. Most of the other 'amateurs' pitched up for an end-of-season jolly and were not entirely sober for the duration.
If New Zealand are ever to regain the trophy which they believe is their birthright, they have got to get over themselves and take a long look at the way the rest of the rugby world perceives them. It will hurt, but the reward could be the Webb Ellis Cup.
The All Blacks are day in, day out probably the world's best rugby players but they have a fatal character trait – a pure, unattractive arrogance that trips them up every time. Occasionally some PR guru encourages them to show their nicer side, and in fairness the class of 2007 have tried hard, but it rarely lasts long and their administrators do them no favours.
To win sport's biggest prizes you have to absorb and learn, not lecture and preach. You must be humble. The All Blacks have never been humble, it is not in their DNA. They are told they are special from the moment they first pull on the famous shirt and they expect special treatment from the rest of the world at all times. The All Blacks ethos is their Achilles heel.
They are huge fish in a minute pool and everything they do or say goes unquestioned. If Graham Henry and the New Zealand Rugby Union want unilaterally to rip up the Super 14 and take their top 22 players out of the competition for special fitness training for two months, they plough right on ahead. If you happen to be Sky television, or the Australian and South African rugby unions, it is just tough. The All Blacks have spoken.
It was that arrogance and insularity that made them blindly defend Tana Umaga and Keven Mealamu when they nearly maimed Lions captain Brian O'Driscoll. They would have done the New Zealand game a much bigger service by banning the duo for two months apiece. Dream on.
There is extraordinary arrogance and pettiness over their commercially-driven haka, as though they were the only nation on earth allowed to express their individuality. So, too, the arrogant assumption that they always know better than the law-makers and referees. Unbelievable. Arm yourself with a law book guys, take an honest look at the match tapes and see just how much the All Blacks get away with.
They raid the Pacific to replenish their player stock, yet have New Zealand ever played a full international at Apia against Samoa by way of encouragement or even, perversely, a thank you? I think not. The truth is New Zealand are terrified that Samoa, Fiji and Tonga will get their act together and become competitive international teams who can hang on to their star players. On the evidence of France 2007, their worst nightmares could soon come true.
New Zealanders slag off the Six Nations incessantly but, bless them, miss the point entirely. Yes, the Tri-Nations is inherently more athletic and skilful, and produces some very watchable rugby, but the Six Nations is played on an epic scale, in giant stadiums packed with up to 80,000 mad, half-drunk partisans.
It embraces six rugby cultures, differing stadiums, climates and playing standards. The Six Nations breeds hard-nosed sporting brutes who regularly quarry out winning performances and learn how to win 'ugly'. Australia, with a wider sporting culture than New Zealand, also know how to win ugly, which is why they have taken two World Cups. In contrast when the lights go down and it comes to showtime, New Zealand suffer horribly from stage fright.
It is their isolation – mental as much as geographical – that makes New Zealand so vulnerable. If they came down off Mount Olympus and joined us rugby serfs more often they would get everything in better perspective. And the World Cup would almost certainly be their reward.
Last edited by The Dean; Feb 2nd 2010 at 6:58 pm. Reason: .