Jeeper

The logic is that penalties and dropgoals are the net sum of the northern hemisphere game.
At least southern hemisphere racks up a few tries as well....
Carters drop goal record is fairly average from memory.

The Dean

And at the risk of flogging an already dying horse, Jeeper.........

I still to this day cannot understand how they lost the '99 '03 and '07. All 3 were for the taking.

Are you serious??? I accept that, in nine years out of ten, NZ have been better than, and would probably beat, England......... but 2003 was the exception. There is no doubt that - and forgive me for mentioning it, because it will probably not happen again for a very long while - England were the best team in the world......

Jeeper

Yes - I agree with that....I'm just harping on about the fact we didn't get a chance to have a crack at England at that point. Ask any NZer if being the best in the world at RWC time means you will win the final....

1 game - anything can happen...who knows....no one - 'cause we never got there.

Lost to OZ who were actually quite weak at that time.

NorthernLad

Back on topic...Biddi Bondi said they have it on. I'm guessing Barasti will have it if you are that way inclined.

Bigtaff

Im sorry??? You have heard of Shane Williams, right??

Being fiercly proud of being Welsh I still do agree we should be playing better and proved we can in 2008 with pretty much the same team as we have now

jrudofsky

Back to topic... Al Jaz bought the rights for it on Tuesday evening. Expect them to be shown on Al Jaz Sport +3 etc.

Showtime hold all other rugby rights for the next three years.

Jeeper

Big fish in a small pond.

spart

Are you serious? Australia were the better team, and would have outlasted England in the stamina stakes in a few more minutes of play....except someone passed the ball to the muppet Rogers, who punted down field, and into Wilkinson's arms...and the rest is history.

spart

But he scores a lot more points from conversions, therein lies the difference.

The Dean

Get your facts right............. Wilkinson did not get the ball from Rogers, he got it from a series of English possession phases following Moody's line-out take.

Australia the better team?? You're out of your mind - if it wasn't for Andre Watson's incompetent reffing of the front rows, England would have been 20 points ahead after 80 mins. Wilko would not have gone down in English folklore, because he wouldn't have been needed.

And nobody outlasted that England team for stamina - I suspect they were the fittest (I'm not saying best, I'm saying fittest) team in history.

Apart from that, your comments were accurate............

Jeeper

I think he meant rogers punted down field.....blah blah blah...and into Wilkinsons arms it ended up->game over......
Just missed out the unneccesary details for the point that OZ (rogers) should not have given away possession.


I actually find watching highlights of the English win more depressing than any all black RWC loss.

Millsyisland

Is this definite as it's not listed on the Al Jazeera scheduling for tomorrow on +3 and I don't want to fork out for the extra channels if it's not gonna be on?

spart

Thank you. The useless Leaguie should have run with the ball, and not punted. If memory serves (I was there, but was having a fit) there was only 90 seconds or so left when he punted?

spart

Only because of the time zone...

Name one...

Case closed your honour....

Millsyisland

UPDATE - The schedules are showing for Sunday on +3 and they've got re-runs of Saturday's matches and Sunday's match showing live which is good enough for me, so just called the muppets at EVision to add the channels - hurrah.

Oh, and to comment on the other posts - England were without doubt the best team in the world in 2003, anyone who cannot acknowledge this obviously does not know rugby or is just bitter.