**** the poor
Apr 12th 2014, 5:31 pm
#17
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Re: **** the poor
Whilst unfortunate and uncomfortable I'm not sure it can be classed as poverty
Apr 12th 2014, 5:51 pm
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Re: **** the poor
I don't want to come across as unfeeling but from the examples you have given the safety net is working. One of the examples you have posted has said that she has to feed her kids at KFC and McDonalds ... the horror .. Plus they have free schooling and health care ...
Mina understands that the government has to save money, but wonders if they need to target people like her, who have long-term roots in the area. "I've had the same GP for 20 years, the same hospital. All my daughter's friends are here. Are we meant to change all these things?" she asks. "Suddenly they've changed all the rules. They are playing with people. They are messing around with people's lives. It's a lot of stress for a single mother."
She has told her daughter not to tell her school friends that they are living in a room in a bed and breakfast, sharing a bathroom with 10 other families. "No one in school knows. I told the teacher we had to move, but she doesn't know I'm living in this tiny room," Rana says.
She has told her daughter not to tell her school friends that they are living in a room in a bed and breakfast, sharing a bathroom with 10 other families. "No one in school knows. I told the teacher we had to move, but she doesn't know I'm living in this tiny room," Rana says.
Housing
Health Care
Schooling
Food
Heating
Spending money
Howay man, it is not poverty is it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty
Absolute poverty or destitution refers to the deprivation of basic human needs, which commonly includes food, water, sanitation, clothing, shelter, health care and education. Relative poverty is defined contextually as economic inequality in the location or society in which people live
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Apr 12th 2014, 5:53 pm
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Re: **** the poor
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...n-9249750.html One of our nations finest died due to poverty after bureaucratic incompetence in the safety net? I'm sure he was shirking and it was a lifestyle choice [sarcasm warning]
Apr 13th 2014, 3:25 am
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Re: **** the poor
I'm exactly not. I've raised a fair chunk of money for charity over the years through nothing but hard work.
Your life must be so miserable. I've never seen you post anything remotely positive. If someone can get people to donate for them to jump out a plane or got to Peru(?) or something and it raises money for charity it's hardly the end of the world. Definitely not cause for you to brand all young people as selfish.
Your life must be so miserable. I've never seen you post anything remotely positive. If someone can get people to donate for them to jump out a plane or got to Peru(?) or something and it raises money for charity it's hardly the end of the world. Definitely not cause for you to brand all young people as selfish.
Times have changed and people now have the opportunity to raise money for charity whilst also doing something that they want to do (my wife raised a lot of money for an orphanage in Sri Lanka by doing a parachute jump).
The Scottish whinger, however, still seems to be living in the Saudi Arabia of the 1970's.
Apr 13th 2014, 3:39 am
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Re: **** the poor
I'm not convinced. This is accommodation provided free of charge that is warm and safe that has bathrooms and cooking facilities. On top of this they are given an amount of money in order to spend on what they want, food, clothes whatever. It is far from ideal for most of us, it is uncomfortable and probably scary, but is a million miles away from the type of poverty you see in countries where kids are dying through not having enough food.
I don't want to come across as unfeeling but from the examples you have given the safety net is working. One of the examples you have posted has said that she has to feed her kids at KFC and McDonalds ... the horror .. Plus they have free schooling and health care ...
So provided free of charge:
Housing
Health Care
Schooling
Food
Heating
Spending money
Howay man, it is not poverty is it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty
I don't want to come across as unfeeling but from the examples you have given the safety net is working. One of the examples you have posted has said that she has to feed her kids at KFC and McDonalds ... the horror .. Plus they have free schooling and health care ...
So provided free of charge:
Housing
Health Care
Schooling
Food
Heating
Spending money
Howay man, it is not poverty is it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty
Apr 13th 2014, 4:16 am
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-25287068 Most people in 'poverty' classed as having job. Most kids in 'poverty' have a working parent. 38% od the current generation is currently graduating from university so hopefully that changes. If it doesn't, then our society is a lie surely, and everything we understand about the causes of poverty, the deserving and undeserving, needs a rethink..
Apr 13th 2014, 6:04 am
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Re: **** the poor
Relatively, in the context of UK or 1st world society and standards it is. In a global context it's very, very far from it.
But, the gypsy kids are doing so because their parents have chosen that lifestyle by rejecting the trappings of the welfare state, or at least the idea of contributing to it in anyway, and instead live on the edges of society funding themselves through levels of criminality.
Apr 13th 2014, 6:14 am
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It's basically a debate over Absolute or Relative Poverty.
The numbers of people in the UK in absolute poverty will be very, very small.
The numbers in relative poverty - according to income gaps etc, will be a decent chunk I expect. However, according to an old BBC article, 60% of those in 'poverty' are homeowners - BBC link
The numbers of people in the UK in absolute poverty will be very, very small.
The numbers in relative poverty - according to income gaps etc, will be a decent chunk I expect. However, according to an old BBC article, 60% of those in 'poverty' are homeowners - BBC link
Apr 13th 2014, 6:23 am
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Re: **** the poor
It's basically a debate over Absolute or Relative Poverty.
The numbers of people in the UK in absolute poverty will be very, very small.
The numbers in relative poverty - according to income gaps etc, will be a decent chunk I expect. However, according to an old BBC article, 60% of those in 'poverty' are homeowners - BBC link
The numbers of people in the UK in absolute poverty will be very, very small.
The numbers in relative poverty - according to income gaps etc, will be a decent chunk I expect. However, according to an old BBC article, 60% of those in 'poverty' are homeowners - BBC link
Let's face it, we'd all rather be poor in the UK than (say) India, anywhere in Africa, Philippines, or even in the world's two largest economies: USA, or China.
Apr 13th 2014, 6:23 am
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Apr 13th 2014, 7:32 am
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"Look how wonderful: I am, doing all this for the poor !" Bollocks. Reminds me of that conman behind Liveaid..