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arkon Dec 11th 2005 12:49 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by Angry White Pyjamas
Huh?

Too much of the amber nectar I think. I was wondering what a youdyou'doy was and just assumed it was a welsh expletive that I'd never heard of. Either that or some kind of keyboard rage, there’s a lot of that going about lately. OR maybe just changed to the same kind of daft natural keyboard like wot I got that’s taken me 2 years to tip proply.

dunroving Dec 11th 2005 12:55 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by CitySlicker
I hope not.

I have not heard of there being riots over here. The Maori do sometimes get angry but they usually march in protest. They usually do their 'haka' and then have a BBQ. Certainly not the same level of ethnic strife as seems to be going on in Sydney at the moment.

I don't think ther are many 'Lebs or Wogs' in NZ though.

I once read a book called "Once Were Warriors" about the lives of Maoris. Reminded me a lot of how American Indians have been treated and now exist as second-class citizens in the US.

Seems that getting pissed off about immigrants taking all "your" stuff is a luxury afforded to those who are not severely outnumbered by the immigrants.

[You see, I did bring the post back on-topic!]

BTW, what is a "Leb"?

HiddenPaw Dec 11th 2005 1:05 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by dunroving

BTW, what is a "Leb"?

Someone from Lebanon. Australia has a large number of Lebanese migrants.

dunroving Dec 11th 2005 1:09 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
Someone from Lebanon. Australia has a large number of Lebanese migrants.

Thanks. You learn something new every day. :D

MJC Dec 11th 2005 1:17 am

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Anyway children, now that the bickering has stopped, can you all take your seats at your desk's and we'll continue with this months story.

Now please open your "Janet and John" books at page 2 and lets continue.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

HiddenPaw Dec 11th 2005 1:22 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by dunroving
Thanks. You learn something new every day. :D

And for anyone who doesn't know, a 'wog', in [derogatory] Australian terms, is someone from southern Europe/Mediterranean - typically Greek or Italian, but also Cypriot, Turkish, etc. Oz has a huge migrant population of southern Europeans. (I think 'wog' in the UK refers to black people, doesn't it?)

ladyofthelake Dec 11th 2005 1:35 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by Thydney
Have all the statist, statis, figures people gone?

No, I'm still here. Cityslicker chose to go quiet on the subject after I posted he was manipulating the numbers to suit his arguement. :D

Actually, it seems there is a growing backlash against 'The Holidays' http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/Beliefs/story?id=1383107 with many more people wanting to know what on earth is wrong with saying Merry Christmas.
I seriously doubt anyone would be offended if someone said to them Happy Hannukah or Kwanzaa, I know I wouldn't. I would imagine most people of other religions who live in a predominately Christian country would not be offended by Christmas. IMO, it's only a small percentage of groups who are getting their knickers in a twist about avoiding offending anyone, and ironically they are Christians. :rolleyes:

Thydney Dec 11th 2005 2:14 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
No, I'm still here.

Didn't think for one minute you wouldn't be ;)

Grayling Dec 11th 2005 2:53 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
You're beginning to taint his view of 'merry olde Australia'! I was going to keep today's do-gooder tales to myself...but what the heck!

So, OP, first up there's the story in today's Queensland Mail about the teacher who has apologised for offending his pupils for his over-use of the word 'Christmas', following complaints. Then there's the story from last week's paper about the leading Islamic cleric who has called for Australia to end its use of the word 'Christmas' so as not to offend the high-number of non-Christians in the country. Last year it was all about cancelled nativity plays at schools and kindies. It may not yet be at the extent of that in the UK or US, but evidently, the sentiment is there, and many are unsure how to deal with it.

Here it is:
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117...1-1248,00.html

G

merlotsmum Dec 11th 2005 3:06 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by MJC
Anyway children, now that the bickering has stopped, can you all take your seats at your desk's and we'll continue with this months story.

Now please open your "Janet and John" books at page 2 and lets continue.... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Please Sir, I can't as my dog has eaten my book :D

CitySlicker Dec 11th 2005 5:43 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
No, I'm still here. Cityslicker chose to go quiet on the subject after I posted he was manipulating the numbers to suit his arguement. :D

I am happy with my figures as I was responding to someone who said that I would have been safer staying in London since 2001 rather than flying to NZ. I feel that I have proved that I am in fact safer flying ONCE to NZ rather than travelling on the underground every day since then.

How about you put your husbands calculations on this thread for me to have a look at rather than just saying that I am wrong.

ShozInOz Dec 11th 2005 9:55 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
And for anyone who doesn't know, a 'wog', in [derogatory] Australian terms, is someone from southern Europe/Mediterranean - typically Greek or Italian, but also Cypriot, Turkish, etc. Oz has a huge migrant population of southern Europeans. (I think 'wog' in the UK refers to black people, doesn't it?)

The word 'wog' derives from 'golliwog' and was originally directed at people from the Indian subcontinent in the 1950s in the UK, then people of black African origin. Many in Australia don't realise this. There was an effort to change the meaning to 'Western Orient Gentleman' several decades ago in Australia. Now people of southern mediteranean origin have taken much of the sting out of the term by using it themselves, as did African Americans with 'nigger', but the word 'wog' is used by white people too, mostly without offence apparently, except during yesterday's and last night's riots in Sydney.

Neathborn Dec 11th 2005 11:58 am

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by ladyofthelake
Quit moaning for goodness sake. Christmas is still a a word you can use most of the time in the UK, but you can't here in the US believe it or not. It has morphed into 'The Holidays' to avoid upsetting the other festivities at the same time of year. Care to guess what they may be?
Try buying a Christmas card with the word Christmas anywhere on it...you can't, it doesn't exist. I recieved a card from my mailman last week, it said Happy Holidays on the envelope. The card had a picture of Mary holding a baby Jesus, but the wording inside said something like "Season's Greeting during the Holidays" So even with a religious picture on the card, Christmas is still unmentionable :rolleyes: You can't even say Merry Christmas to someone here, for fear of causing offense....it has to be Happy Holidays :rolleyes: The kids have Holiday parties and Holiday cookies etc. Just substitute Holidays for whenever you would normally say Christmas.

I have to disagree with you somewhat regarding the US. I had no problem finding cards with "Merry Christmas" on them and there are quite a few places here where you can get cards that mention "Christmas." I do agree that the U.S. has tended to be a bit PC regarding Christmas, but here in SE Virginia there appears to be the beginning of a backlash. Just read in my local paper, Virginian Pilot, letters from a number of people stating that it's just plain silly saying "holiday" instead of "Christmas". One of the writers was Jewish and said he wasn't at all offended when people wished him a happy Christmas.

Polyphemus Dec 11th 2005 12:13 pm

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by HiddenPaw
And for anyone who doesn't know, a 'wog', in [derogatory] Australian terms, is someone from southern Europe/Mediterranean - typically Greek or Italian, but also Cypriot, Turkish, etc. Oz has a huge migrant population of southern Europeans. (I think 'wog' in the UK refers to black people, doesn't it?)

Don't you mean 'wop'? (from Ital. guappo = showy, or Span guapo = dandy)

Aus derog. 'wog' is a minor illness - cold etc.

From a pikey taff honky with numpty tendencies.

ShozInOz Dec 11th 2005 12:17 pm

Re: Why come back to Britain?????
 

Originally Posted by Polyphemus
Don't you mean 'wop'? (from Ital. guappo = showy, or Span guapo = dandy)

Aus derog. 'wog' is a minor illness - cold etc.

From a pikey taff honky with numpty tendencies.

No, the word 'wog' is widespread here. Here is an example of how so called 'wogs' have taken the term as their own: www.wog.com.au


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