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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   The Rovers Return (https://britishexpats.com/forum/rovers-return-111/)
-   -   What makes Britain completely crap? (https://britishexpats.com/forum/rovers-return-111/what-makes-britain-completely-crap-812802/)

Grayling Mar 7th 2014 8:34 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Harvester523 (Post 11163293)
I don't know what business it is of yours, but I'm 59
The changes were made several years ago and were phased in according to your date of birth

Explain how you "suddenly" had to wait another 5 years

It doesn't seem to add up:confused:

Editha Mar 7th 2014 8:39 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
I'm sorry if you think I was being deliberately offensive. I was just trying to work out what the basis of your confusion was. Even if it was 30 years ago, it is quite odd to think that you
a) were on a jury with "volunteers" and "professionals" -- not possible.
b) that the court hearing a criminal case made an order regarding custody of children -- also not possible.

And for your information: the system of jury selection in England and Wales has not changed significantly in our lifetimes (I'm 61).

Grayling Mar 7th 2014 8:44 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Harvester523 (Post 11163289)
I was due to receive it this year, but just fell foul of the birth date.
So you were in your early 50's when the changes were made.

That is not exactly having "the rug snatched" from under you is it?

.....and many other counties have done exactly the same thing

Shard Mar 7th 2014 8:46 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Harvester523 (Post 11163293)
I don't know what business it is of yours, but I'm 59
Well if the topic of discussion is pension dates being changed at short notice, the age of person claiming that is relevant. I may want to look up information pertaining to it to better understand the scenario.

Grayling Mar 7th 2014 8:48 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11163317)
Well if the topic of discussion is pension dates being changed at short notice, the age of person claiming that is relevant. I may want to look up information pertaining to it to better understand the scenario.
The changes were made in 2007 and the changes were phased in according to your birthdate....It was not a " sudden" change to the rules

Shard Mar 7th 2014 8:51 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Harvester523 (Post 11163293)
I don't know what business it is of yours, but I'm 59
Do you not get your state pension at 65?

Shard Mar 7th 2014 8:51 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11163322)
The changes were made in 2007 and the changes were phased in according to your birthdate....It was not a " sudden" change to the rules
I thought the changes were introduced in 2010?

Grayling Mar 7th 2014 8:54 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Shard (Post 11163327)
I thought the changes were introduced in 2010?
The Pensions Act 2007 introduced the changes to retirement age

roaringmouse Mar 7th 2014 10:58 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Pistolpete2 (Post 11161078)
Checked the Guardian business section early today for stock movements and there is a headline ref the results for Aviva, the largest UK insurer.

Headline reads:

Insurance group Aviva takes £120m hit from UK storms and flooding

...

So much for the value of headlines. Any excuse for something negative.

Even the article proper starts with the same flood damage negative.
I don't understand why you think that headline is negative. Surely it's a positive that an insurance company is paying out due to flood damage? The floods themselves were a negative event, but reporting on them was important. An insurance company paying out after the damage is a positive.

I think some people just like to see negativity when it really isn't there.

Grayling Mar 7th 2014 11:06 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 11163451)

I think some people just like to see negativity when it really isn't there.
Ironic from you:rofl::lol::lol:

roaringmouse Mar 7th 2014 11:15 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11163458)
Ironic from you:rofl::lol::lol:
Not really.

Harvester523 Mar 7th 2014 5:23 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 11163300)
The changes were made several years ago and were phased in according to your date of birth

Explain how you "suddenly" had to wait another 5 years

It doesn't seem to add up:confused:
Pension age was 60, now it's 65 (for me), it may have been several years ago, but it was still sudden when you're planning for a future that includes a pension.

Harvester523 Mar 7th 2014 5:38 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11163306)
I'm sorry if you think I was being deliberately offensive. I was just trying to work out what the basis of your confusion was. Even if it was 30 years ago, it is quite odd to think that you
a) were on a jury with "volunteers" and "professionals" -- not possible.
b) that the court hearing a criminal case made an order regarding custody of children -- also not possible.

And for your information: the system of jury selection in England and Wales has not changed significantly in our lifetimes (I'm 61).
a) it sounds to me like it would be possible, for people with nothing better to do, to hang around a court, making it known that they are available:
If it appears to the court that a jury to try any issue before the court will be, or probably will be, incomplete, the court may, if the court thinks fit, require any persons who are in, or in the vicinity of, the court, to be summoned (without any written notice) for jury service up to the number needed (after allowing for any who may not be qualified under section 1 of this Act, and for excusals and challenges) to make up a full jury.
b) I never said it was a custody case, and they didn't make any orders regarding custody of the child, but the outcome was a criminal conviction and the child taken into care.

Editha Mar 7th 2014 5:53 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Harvester523 (Post 11163704)
a) it sounds to me like it would be possible, for people with nothing better to do, to hang around a court, making it known that they are available:


b) I never said it was a custody case, and they didn't make any orders regarding custody of the child, but the outcome was a criminal conviction and the child taken into care.
It may 'sound to you' but that's your imagination working overtime.

As I've already told you, a criminal court can't make a care order.

Harvester523 Mar 7th 2014 6:15 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11163711)
It may 'sound to you' but that's your imagination working overtime.

As I've already told you, a criminal court can't make a care order.
So how do you interpret the rule that says anyone can be selected to make up the numbers?
And as I've already told you, they didn't make a care order.


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