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roaringmouse Oct 22nd 2013 12:38 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by formula (Post 10955881)
The lazy just live off their childrens welfare money - much less effort.
Waiting for chris to spin this into something positive..

SultanOfSwing Oct 22nd 2013 4:30 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Obviously - chavs, pikeys and white dog turds.

Less flippantly... litter was always actually quite bad, I remember that before I left because I'd walk around a lot. Not that there isn't any litter in the US, but the whole 'adopt a highway' scheme at least means there are people out with their orange bags, picking it up.

But I remember even just walking around town there was a lot of litter by the side of the road, or on the beach. Old manky beer cans, crisp bags, car parts, nappies, the ubiquitous shopping trolley. I even saw a rubber johnny or two :unsure:

So, litter made my corner of the UK crap. Well, that and the rise of Irish republicanism of course.

dunroving Oct 22nd 2013 4:57 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10956357)
Obviously - chavs, pikeys and white dog turds.

Less flippantly... litter was always actually quite bad, I remember that before I left because I'd walk around a lot. Not that there isn't any litter in the US, but the whole 'adopt a highway' scheme at least means there are people out with their orange bags, picking it up.

But I remember even just walking around town there was a lot of litter by the side of the road, or on the beach. Old manky beer cans, crisp bags, car parts, nappies, the ubiquitous shopping trolley. I even saw a rubber johnny or two :unsure:

So, litter made my corner of the UK crap. Well, that and the rise of Irish republicanism of course.
I used to see a lot of litter in rural TN and NC as I rode my bike around the countryside - although I didn't see much fly-tipping, like I see here (fridges and bags of rubbish). I think overall it was much worse than the rural litter I see here in the UK. In the US, it seemed almost like most people would wind down the window and throw their litter out of the car window,, rather than take it home and put it in the bin.

SultanOfSwing Oct 22nd 2013 5:01 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10956400)
I used to see a lot of litter in rural TN and NC as I rode my bike around the countryside - although I didn't see much fly-tipping, like I see here (fridges and bags of rubbish). I think overall it was much worse than the rural litter I see here in the UK. In the US, it seemed almost like most people would wind down the window and throw their litter out of the car window,, rather than take it home and put it in the bin.
I haven't lived in a rural area here or there. I was comparing urban to suburban, so that might have something to do with it as well.

dunroving Oct 22nd 2013 6:22 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10956404)
I haven't lived in a rural area here or there. I was comparing urban to suburban, so that might have something to do with it as well.
Yes, I find the opposite to be true in urban/suburban areas - in the US, towns seem to be almost immaculately manicured whereas here, there is more litter on the streets and general upkeep seems to be limited. In the US, rural areas seemed to be more run-down, especially in terms of litter. As you say, there is the Adopt a Highway scheme in the US which helps. We (bike club) used to keep a 2-mile stretch free of litter, that was part of our Tuesday night ride route.

SultanOfSwing Oct 22nd 2013 6:32 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10956535)
Yes, I find the opposite to be true in urban/suburban areas - in the US, towns seem to be almost immaculately manicured whereas here, there is more litter on the streets and general upkeep seems to be limited. In the US, rural areas seemed to be more run-down, especially in terms of litter. As you say, there is the Adopt a Highway scheme in the US which helps. We (bike club) used to keep a 2-mile stretch free of litter, that was part of our Tuesday night ride route.
Of course, that's not to say that there isn't a lot of stuff for the clean-up crews to pick up. Just that they do seem to be rather efficient when they do it.

Mallory Oct 22nd 2013 8:10 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10956400)
I used to see a lot of litter in rural TN and NC as I rode my bike around the countryside - although I didn't see much fly-tipping, like I see here (fridges and bags of rubbish). I think overall it was much worse than the rural litter I see here in the UK. In the US, it seemed almost like most people would wind down the window and throw their litter out of the car window,, rather than take it home and put it in the bin.
We were in NC last week and saw at least three sets of signs "inmates picking up litter." My hubby pointed out to me the guard at the front of the line, and the guard at the back of the line had shotguns. It was just like the movies! :ohmy:

SultanOfSwing Oct 22nd 2013 8:14 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Mallory (Post 10956703)
We were in NC last week and saw at least three sets of signs "inmates picking up litter." My hubby pointed out to me the guard at the front of the line, and the guard at the back of the line had shotguns. It was just like the movies! :ohmy:
Shakin' it off here, boss ...

Pom_Chch Oct 22nd 2013 8:45 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10955646)
They don't tie them, they just throw them up - they are usually way up in the tops of the trees.
Gosh, that reminds me of the days when I was a little sh1t at school. You know when you wet tissue under the tap and chuck it as hard as you can at the ceiling or walls so it sticks. Or was that just me?

Sally Redux Oct 22nd 2013 8:49 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Pom_Chch (Post 10956761)
Gosh, that reminds me of the days when I was a little sh1t at school. You know when you wet tissue under the tap and chuck it as hard as you can at the ceiling or walls so it sticks. Or was that just me?
:rofl: Oh, God yes (I didn't personally do it but the ceilings in the toilet were covered with them). For some reason, they were called 'Ernies' :confused:

SultanOfSwing Oct 22nd 2013 8:52 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10956768)
:rofl: Oh, God yes (I didn't personally do it but the ceilings in the toilet were covered with them). For some reason, they were called 'Ernies' :confused:
Same at our school. I didn't do it either though, I was too busy smoking in our bogs.

Pom_Chch Oct 22nd 2013 9:29 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 10956768)
:rofl: Oh, God yes (I didn't personally do it but the ceilings in the toilet were covered with them). For some reason, they were called 'Ernies' :confused:
:lol: Ernie! I have never heard that before, but for some reason it seems to suit. I hope I don't meet anyone called Ernie in the near future. May result in uncomfortable laughing on my part.

pippalonghorn Oct 22nd 2013 12:44 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10956357)
Obviously - chavs, pikeys and white dog turds.

Less flippantly... litter was always actually quite bad, I remember that before I left because I'd walk around a lot. Not that there isn't any litter in the US, but the whole 'adopt a highway' scheme at least means there are people out with their orange bags, picking it up.

But I remember even just walking around town there was a lot of litter by the side of the road, or on the beach. Old manky beer cans, crisp bags, car parts, nappies, the ubiquitous shopping trolley. I even saw a rubber johnny or two :unsure:

So, litter made my corner of the UK crap. Well, that and the rise of Irish republicanism of course.
:D I've found all of those things on the beach where I live and it's the other side of the world. :D Every place in the world has crap things about it. I think the welfare system in Britain is crap. It doesn't help those families who work hard but earn low wages. :thumbdown:

Bud the Wiser Oct 23rd 2013 9:47 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by windsong (Post 10955089)
Give me the dog poo any day over vile drunk humans acting like savages in the streets - throwing up/puking as someone said earlier - and urinating. Totally disgusting!!!
Just watched a programme called, "Bouncers". Plenty of puking/peeing/fighting and vile drunks. Usual excuse, "There's nothing else to do around here."

What amazed me most though was the 'tanking up' at home before they went out for the night. Most were pi$$ed before they walked out the front door.

Funny quote from a bouncer though, when a drunken half dressed woman tried to get in the club........

"Even the tide wouldn't take her out.":D:D:D:D:D

treasuredr Oct 23rd 2013 12:28 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser (Post 10958728)
Just watched a programme called, "Bouncers". Plenty of puking/peeing/fighting and vile drunks. Usual excuse, "There's nothing else to do around here."

What amazed me most though was the 'tanking up' at home before they went out for the night. Most were pi$$ed before they walked out the front door.

Funny quote from a bouncer though, when a drunken half dressed woman tried to get in the club........

"Even the tide wouldn't take her out.":D:D:D:D:D
:rofl::rofl::rofl:

Bud the Wiser Oct 23rd 2013 2:37 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10954476)
Poo trees
Litter piled high in the streets
Miserable people

Add to the list ;)
I didn't think it was as bad as that, until I did some research.

brissybee Oct 23rd 2013 3:25 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by Bud the Wiser (Post 10958998)
I didn't think it was as bad as that, until I did some research.
:ohmy:

(I'm shocked by colours worn by woman second from right.)

And please make it all stop.

Celticspirit Oct 23rd 2013 4:17 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by brissybee (Post 10959034)
:ohmy:

(I'm shocked by colours worn by woman second from right.)

And please make it all stop.
Would you please explain about the colours? I don't understand.

campervanfan Oct 24th 2013 9:00 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by pippalonghorn (Post 10957055)
:D I've found all of those things on the beach where I live and it's the other side of the world. :D Every place in the world has crap things about it. I think the welfare system in Britain is crap. It doesn't help those families who work hard but earn low wages. :thumbdown:
just on that last point- I think the system's pretty generous in terms of Tax Credits for instance, especially if raising children...are you aware of them? or are other countries even more generous?

TheEmperorIsNaked Oct 24th 2013 11:05 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by campervanfan (Post 10960391)
just on that last point- I think the system's pretty generous in terms of Tax Credits for instance, especially if raising children...are you aware of them? or are other countries even more generous?
Pop downstairs and take a look in TIO. Sue has put up a topic/link showing the benefits paid in several countries.

It is a delightful benefits buffet! We are all browsing for selection of our new destination. :sneaky:

victorian67 Oct 24th 2013 4:51 pm
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
What makes anything completely crap ? The nasty habit of only looking at the half empty glass and the dark side of life ! Why having such a negative attitude towards life ?

SultanOfSwing Oct 25th 2013 1:44 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Point of order - the glass is always full. 50% water, 50% air.

Actually, in reality, the glass is exactly twice as big as it needs to be ...

dunroving Oct 25th 2013 2:00 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Not sure why seeing the glass half-full is somehow a more superior attitude to have in life.

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 2:17 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by victorian67 (Post 10960716)
What makes anything completely crap ? The nasty habit of only looking at the half empty glass and the dark side of life ! Why having such a negative attitude towards life ?
I totally agree, why go through life looking at the negative side of things? Surely it is better even for your own state of mind to be positive, look for the good?

roaringmouse Oct 25th 2013 2:28 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10961258)
Point of order - the glass is always full. 50% water, 50% air.

Actually, in reality, the glass is exactly twice as big as it needs to be ...
Indeed - it must be Friday again. Destination Pedantry Land.

SultanOfSwing Oct 25th 2013 2:39 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by roaringmouse (Post 10961354)
Indeed - it must be Friday again. Destination Pedantry Land.
You know it is :nod:

While we're at it, all this 'positive attitude' and 'negative attitude' crapola. Positive and negative are absolute, objective terms. A proton is positively charged; -100 is a negative number (and right bloody cold). One shouldn't apply objective adjectives to a subjective concept like 'you said the thing I like is crap, stop being negative' when you really mean 'You disagreed with me. Stahp :cry_smile:' ...

Embrace your inner arsehole. I know that sounds dirty but that's the way it is.

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 2:46 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
We are a long time dead, the time I have I am going to spend being happy and positive. If others choose the dark side that is their problem.

dunroving Oct 25th 2013 2:51 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
I just think being aware of society's problems puts you in a better position to do something about them, rather than being in denial of their existence.

Which is not the same as focussing on the negative.

SultanOfSwing Oct 25th 2013 2:53 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10961382)
We are a long time dead, the time I have I am going to spend being happy and positive. If others choose the dark side that is their problem.
I beg to differ:

http://www.feld.com/wp/wp-content/up...f_the_Moon.png

Bud the Wiser Oct 25th 2013 2:54 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10961367)
You know it is :nod:

While we're at it, all this 'positive attitude' and 'negative attitude' crapola. Positive and negative are absolute, objective terms. A proton is positively charged; -100 is a negative number (and right bloody cold). One shouldn't apply objective adjectives to a subjective concept like 'you said the thing I like is crap, stop being negative' when you really mean 'You disagreed with me. Stahp :cry_smile:' ...

Embrace your inner arsehole. I know that sounds dirty but that's the way it is.
+ 1

roaringmouse Oct 25th 2013 2:55 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10961393)
I just think being aware of society's problems puts you in a better position to do something about them, rather than being in denial of their existence.

Which is not the same as focussing on the negative.
:goodpost:

Bud the Wiser Oct 25th 2013 2:58 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10961393)
I just think being aware of society's problems puts you in a better position to do something about them, rather than being in denial of their existence.

Which is not the same as focussing on the negative.
+ 2

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 2:59 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10961393)
I just think being aware of society's problems puts you in a better position to do something about them, rather than being in denial of their existence.

Which is not the same as focussing on the negative.
Absolutely, I agree.

dunroving Oct 25th 2013 3:09 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10961415)
Absolutely, I agree.
It must be Friday, I think you and I have agreed twice in one day. :lol:

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 3:15 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10961443)
It must be Friday, I think you and I have agreed twice in one day. :lol:
Dont worry, it will soon be Saturday ;)

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 3:16 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10961401)
Quite probably THE best album of all time. :thumbup:

SultanOfSwing Oct 25th 2013 3:18 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10961466)
Quite probably THE best album of all time. :thumbup:
Which also just happens to be by a British band ...

chris955 Oct 25th 2013 3:22 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by SultanOfSwing (Post 10961474)
Which also just happens to be by a British band ...
Well no surprise really, most of the worlds greatest bands have been British.

nun Oct 25th 2013 6:05 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 10954507)
Nothing makes it "completely" crap, but the following make it "somewhat" crap:

Chavs
Entitlement culture
Traffic

Can't think of much else.
I can

Bizarre Energy Tariffs
Bizarre rail ticket prices
Aristocracy
Xenophobia
Daily Mail
BNP, UKIP and the Tories
Labour
Tony fu@king Blair
Lib Dems (yellow is a good colour for them)
Sky high fees on pensions and investment funds
Concentration of wealth, resources and opportunity in SE

Although that last one means that places like the NE are increasingly depressed, depopulated and inexpensive so that I can move back, buy a nice house for not much money and live well off my yankee dollars as long as the NHS survives.

Sally Redux Oct 25th 2013 6:18 am
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
 
People who moan about everything.


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