What makes Britain completely crap?
#271
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
However, you could not have been one of them, or you would not be so ignorant now. You would have either been a witness or a party to the proceedings.
#272
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 175
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
Well, I must be mistaken then, and jurors were telling porkies, if the latter, then I rest my case for the credentials of jurors.
Edit: Thanks for the add on insult that has become so much a part of this site. However you are so wrong, it was a trial by jury, ergo sum, you don't know everything.
Edit: Thanks for the add on insult that has become so much a part of this site. However you are so wrong, it was a trial by jury, ergo sum, you don't know everything.
#273
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
They more or less admitted it, they were 'professional jurors', i.e. they volunteered - unemployed or retired. They had made up their minds before the case was even heard. Without going into details, it was obvious to me the other person was the guilty party, and distressing as it was a child abuse case. So, the other party got off scot free, and the accused had their child taken away.
I wouldn't trust any jury in Britain, knowing that, there is virtually no vetting process, anyone can do it. I can think of plenty of people who would be incompetent as jurors.
I wouldn't trust any jury in Britain, knowing that, there is virtually no vetting process, anyone can do it. I can think of plenty of people who would be incompetent as jurors.
#274
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 175
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
Just a guess, but it is possible that you attended a care hearing in the magistrates court. In that case, there would not have been a jury, but a panel of three lay magistrates advised by a court clerk. Lay magistrates are volunteers.
However, you could not have been one of them, or you would not be so ignorant now. You would have either been a witness or a party to the proceedings.
However, you could not have been one of them, or you would not be so ignorant now. You would have either been a witness or a party to the proceedings.
#275
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 175
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
Jurors are selected randomly from the population by the court. Attendance is practically compulsory despite work commitments or booked holiday, although I believe there is some opportunity to postpone. I participated once, and the jury was made up of people from all walks, and every last one did their utmost to reach a just decision in their own minds. There is no "volunteering" for jury duty. To say you wouldn't trust any jury in Britain betrays a complete ignorance of the system.
#279
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 175
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
'hers' thanks. My view of the UK is my opinion, and just because it doesn't agree with the rose tinted set, doesn't make it any less valid.
Shard's response sums up most of the responses. It doesn't matter whether it's relevant or not as long as we say it. We'll ignore any relevant facts.
Shard's response sums up most of the responses. It doesn't matter whether it's relevant or not as long as we say it. We'll ignore any relevant facts.
#280
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
'hers' thanks. My view of the UK is my opinion, and just because it doesn't agree with the rose tinted set, doesn't make it any less valid.
Shard's response sums up most of the responses. It doesn't matter whether it's relevant or not as long as we say it. We'll ignore any relevant facts.
Shard's response sums up most of the responses. It doesn't matter whether it's relevant or not as long as we say it. We'll ignore any relevant facts.
#281
Bitter and twisted
Joined: Dec 2003
Location: Upmarket
Posts: 17,503
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
I still work thanks to the Great British government suddenly pulling the rug out from under us and making me wait another 5 years for my pension - without any warning - so the pound is irrelevant. Where else would you get away with that? You're told all your life that you're going to get a pension, then with no time to make any other arrangements, it's snatched away.
When the pension age changed it was phased in....some, like myself were not affected at all although I am still too young to receive it. My wife was affected but it meant she only had to wait an extra year. If you had to wait 5 years then you must have been nowhere near receiving it imminently when the changes were made
#283
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 175
Re: What makes Britain completely crap?
When did that happen
When the pension age changed it was phased in....some, like myself were not affected at all although I am still too young to receive it. My wife was affected but it meant she only had to wait an extra year. If you had to wait 5 years then you must have been nowhere near receiving it imminently when the changes were made
When the pension age changed it was phased in....some, like myself were not affected at all although I am still too young to receive it. My wife was affected but it meant she only had to wait an extra year. If you had to wait 5 years then you must have been nowhere near receiving it imminently when the changes were made