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As already mentioned I couldn't care less about Tory backbenchers squabbling amongst themselves. Locking ourselves into another Scottish independence referendum and breaking up the Union on the other hand is something I'd really rather avoid.

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I would not like to see Scotland leave the UK, but I feel that Nicola Sturgeon will keep pressing until she gets the result she wants.

I don't understand the SNP wanting to break away, am I correct that they want to stay with the EU which is much more demanding than Westminster? I doubt if the small population of Scotland would have a big enough voice in the EU to achieve anything, I would envisage another Nicola Sturgeon referendum to leave.

June will be an interesting month.

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Wrestling control of Scotland from London only to hand it to Brussels is not something I really understand either unless the SNP is planning to use EU funds to plug the financial hole breaking away from the UK would leave but since Sturgeon has already committed to another referendum if the UK opts for Brexit then I'm not willing to give her the excuse.

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More reasons for "out" for me, very few reasons to be in. I think Scotland will go at some stage anyway - the Rottweiler Sturgeon won't rest until they have independence regardless.

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Probably because the EU isn't actually more demanding (whatever that means), and the Scots can see that spending ten years renegotiating your trade agreements with the rest of the world while your economy goes down the plughole, isn't such a brilliant idea.

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I have very mixed feelings but am being influenced by the fact that immigration from non EU countries, many of which are members of the Commonwealth, has been made much more difficult since joining the EU and having to allow the free movement of people from members of the EU. I don't think that if we leave, immigration from non EU countries will become any easier though. It's just a matter of principle for me.

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I understand your feeling, but the UK has been a member of the EU since 1973. The new difficulties for non-EU immigration stem only from the last Tory government's xenophobic policy enacted in about 2012.

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But wasn't it because they had to reduce immigration which had risen uncontrollably since freedom of movement included the rising number of countries joining the EU?

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Had to?

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Well, FELT they had to!

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FELT they had to, perhaps, but only because many extremely xenophobic lumpenprolitariat Tory voters (and some similar MPs) were deemed to be deserting the Tories for UKIP.

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I too feel the same, in fact am rather bitter about the fact that I will have to eventually pay nearly £6000 for my spouse visa when I am a commonwealth citizen, with property in UK which I have had since 1999, have been submitting tax returns, paying my NI until this year and had permanent residence and have to go through these loops while EU citenzens come in and can also bring all their family members too! That is more open to abuse because one of them can marry for convenience and still come here. My heart tells me to vote to leave and become closer to commonwealth countries with ties to Britain but head says maybe vote stay to keep status quo because these immigrants will still come in anyway. Wonder what war veterens think after fighting for Britain's sovereignty only to hand it back to Germany and France. I fluctuate daily!

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We are on the same page, Feelbritish! But surely, if we regain our sovereignty, won't the government be able to apply the same restrictions to immigrants from the EU as they do to Commomwealth citizens and others? Why should those from the EU not have to meet the same requirements, financial, accommodation, relationship and language, as those from non EU countries?

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I'd far rather have free movement of people as some are talking about with Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

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Because they are white?