Editha

I knew you didn't have any way of verifying your sources. Me bluster? LOL.

chris955

Yes exactly, get the economy moving and the debt comes down.

Bud the Wiser

Café Nero to create 1,700 jobs. That's good news for this years graduates.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/n...in-the-UK.html

roaringmouse

That is likely to happen, the last budget surplus in the UK was under Blair.

However a political point being made by another poster was that "Labour would have said just borrow more and get us even more in debt". Whereas in reality, the Tories have been doing just that and getting the UK in more debt.

bigglesworth

So YOU disagree with a poster on the flimsiest of evidence. When another poster (myself) supports that poster with evidence, you simply attack the post. You produce NO evidence for what you say.
When I produce support, you challenge only those bits for which I do not produce evidence. (And accuse me of “wasting your afternoon”! Who on earth do you think you are? The Queen?)
The ONLY substantiation you produce for anything you say is a bit of cut and paste from a GCSE history course.
But you do not bluster.
Of course you probably have another definition for that word too.
I am not sure you will enjoy being back in England.

Editha

YOU haven't produced any support at all.

You referred to four reports in which you claim the BBC owned up to having a left wing bias. I have asked you to link to them. You have ignored the request.

You have claimed that three BBC news journalists are left wing -- that Naughtie is a member of the Labour Party (which would put him in breach of his BBC contract) and that both Dimbleby brothers were members of the Young Socialists, which would be irrelevant if true, but you have produced not evidence that it is true.

You've now claimed, ludicrously, "that 'liberal' in Europe generally is associated with the left, and has been for a number of years".

Let's take France first. This is an article from the French Wikipedia discussing France's "liberalism of the right and liberalism of the left":http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lib%C3%...pr.C3.A8s_1958

Presumably you read French, so perhaps you'd like to explain to me why that article is totally wrong.

In Germany, on the other hand, liberalism in politics is most strongly associated with the FDP, which is a centre-right party:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_De...rty_of_Germany.

If you can find any description of the FDP as left-wing, please provide a link. I do read German.

Now, as far as I am concerned, that is the end of this discussion. I don't think it would be kind to you to continue it any longer.

OdysseusLite

I do agree, Editha, that it is time to move on from this discussion. There is another thread specifically for political discussions which, in my experience, never end with anyone convincing anyone else to change their views. Although the OP invited political comment, I’d be more interested in general information on how the economy is doing rather than who is to blame for it.

dunroving

It's doing pretty well, depending on who you ask. Some good figures (increasing unemployment) mask the fact that many new jobs are casual, zero-hours type jobs. I think people at the bottom are struggling and anyone under 30 has given up hope on owning a house any time soon. But I'm all right, Jack. Sort of.

old.sparkles

typo?

chris955

Clearly yes.

chris955

Well its fair to say the economy is doing well, much better than even the most optimistic could have hoped and growing at a pace no-one could have predicted. I just hope that when the election comes around that people think back to what Labour left us.

dunroving

Intentional - just making sure Chris is paying attention.

old.sparkles

chris955

I just read it as a typo.

dunroving

Great - so you were paying attention.