Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
#1771
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
The 'Liverpool care pathway' is an approach to treatment adopted worldwide. It was developed in Liverpool but has since been used extensively in many countries. it is not restricted to the UK and it is not a geographical description.....at least talk about something you understand
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Obviously there are concerns about it in the UK or there wouldn't have been independent reviews.
http://www.mariecurie.org.uk/en-GB/C...-care-pathway/
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
The GP surgery we left in the UK would only let you make an appt on the day you were calling. To get an appt on the day involved ringing repeatedly once the phone lines opened at 08.15. If by the time you got through there were no appts left that day, you still couldn't book an appt for the following day - just try again at 0815 the following morning. Rinse and repeat until either you got lucky and got through in time, or you got better - or you got so sick you ended up in hospital
Do GP's do home visits still? I can recall several times having the doctor around at our house and even going to his/her private residence. Once even had him out on Christmas day as my two year old went into some sort of shock with over excitement. Bless him
Slough by the way, is one of the few places in the UK where I felt uncomfortable walking around in the daylight.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
My SIL tells me exactly the same thing, almost to the letter. I believe there is a clinic that she could go to that would give you something to 'tide' you over and tell you to try again for a doctors appointment, or tell you to go to the ER. Berks/Bucks border.
Do GP's do home visits still? I can recall several times having the doctor around at our house and even going to his/her private residence. Once even had him out on Christmas day as my two year old went into some sort of shock with over excitement. Bless him
Slough by the way, is one of the few places in the UK where I felt uncomfortable walking around in the daylight.
Do GP's do home visits still? I can recall several times having the doctor around at our house and even going to his/her private residence. Once even had him out on Christmas day as my two year old went into some sort of shock with over excitement. Bless him
Slough by the way, is one of the few places in the UK where I felt uncomfortable walking around in the daylight.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
When I was in England last year I had a couple of things which needed attention. I made three appointments with a GP practice in Cambridgeshire and ech time I was seen the same day within a few hours.
I also had to go to an Emergency department in Mansfield and was seen within half an hour and saw a specialist the same afternoon with a follow up in a couple of days.
When I lived in Derbyshire our GP practice had a policy of same day appointments guaranteed.
Three different places...all excellent service.
Seems some people are just unlucky.
I also had to go to an Emergency department in Mansfield and was seen within half an hour and saw a specialist the same afternoon with a follow up in a couple of days.
When I lived in Derbyshire our GP practice had a policy of same day appointments guaranteed.
Three different places...all excellent service.
Seems some people are just unlucky.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
When I was in England last year I had a couple of things which needed attention. I made three appointments with a GP practice in Cambridgeshire and ech time I was seen the same day within a few hours.
I also had to go to an Emergency department in Mansfield and was seen within half an hour and saw a specialist the same afternoon with a follow up in a couple of days.
When I lived in Derbyshire our GP practice had a policy of same day appointments guaranteed.
Three different places...all excellent service.
Seems some people are just unlucky.
I also had to go to an Emergency department in Mansfield and was seen within half an hour and saw a specialist the same afternoon with a follow up in a couple of days.
When I lived in Derbyshire our GP practice had a policy of same day appointments guaranteed.
Three different places...all excellent service.
Seems some people are just unlucky.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
So why the inconsistencies between the quality of service in different parts of the country? Surely, if it is indeed a national service, there should be, a best only minor discrepancies in the quality of care. Luck should not come into providing a national health care service.
I also worked for the health service, in several places, and never saw any inconsistency.
My mother lived in Oxford until she died last year and her GP regularly visited her at home......things are a lot bett than you seem to like to portray them
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
So why the inconsistencies between the quality of service in different parts of the country? Surely, if it is indeed a national service, there should be, a best only minor discrepancies in the quality of care. Luck should not come into providing a national health care service.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
They do......they are, effectively, independent practitioners.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
I have never found the inconsistency....have you or are you just repeating anecdotes that suit your agenda.
I also worked for the health service, in several places, and never saw any inconsistency.
My mother lived in Oxford until she died last year and her GP regularly visited her at home......things are a lot bett than you seem to like to portray them
I also worked for the health service, in several places, and never saw any inconsistency.
My mother lived in Oxford until she died last year and her GP regularly visited her at home......things are a lot bett than you seem to like to portray them
The inconsistencies are well documented. I try not to portray any thing other than what anyone else can access with a bit of research. You can't ignore what happened at mid-staffs for example.
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
Do you want us to start googling them?
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
The reason why the NHS comes under such scrutiny is because of it's nature as a political football.....just look at the focus on problems in the NHS in America promoted by the opponents of Obamacare...as a dire warning of what might happen.
Just take the example of MRSA....we were given the impression that it was solely a UK problem....It was quietly overlooked that is was a worldwide problem just as prevalent in countries like the US and Australia and many more
Just take the example of MRSA....we were given the impression that it was solely a UK problem....It was quietly overlooked that is was a worldwide problem just as prevalent in countries like the US and Australia and many more
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Re: Is the situation in the UK really that bad?
The reason why the NHS comes under such scrutiny is because of it's nature as a political football.....just look at the focus on problems in the NHS in America promoted by the opponents of Obamacare...as a dire warning of what might happen.
Just take the example of MRSA....we were given the impression that it was solely a UK problem....It was quietly overlooked that is was a worldwide problem just as prevalent in countries like the US and Australia and many more
Just take the example of MRSA....we were given the impression that it was solely a UK problem....It was quietly overlooked that is was a worldwide problem just as prevalent in countries like the US and Australia and many more
Stephen Hawking would have died under the NHS