OzzieNurse

It's not WA's fault and I never claimed it was. I would't come back to WA I personally don't like it.

busterboy

I am just pleased to hear that you are hanging in there, you lovely woman.

Remember no-one is living your life but you and they can't possibly really know the complexity of your circumstances. I wish you and yours good luck and thank you for the messages of support that you gave me when things were very tough.

Kapri

[QUOTE=mick69; We went to Oz as a family/team and we came back as a family/team. To be in Australia without my OH just wouldn't have worked out as I wanted us all to be together.[/QUOTE]

This is what it's all about isn't it?
It's very easy for people to say "let him go - you stay". Would they want to split from their husbands over this?
Rach - I'm sorry things haven't worked out for you after all your hard work to get out there but I'm sure you'll be able to work things out if you go home.
Best of luck to you

guest5234

Everyones different though, you thought coming back was a mistake, for me it was the best move of my life moving back to the Cotswolds, I appriciate home now more than ever ..people must make up their own minds and not be influenced by others.

mumof4

I just want to say thanks to everyone, I'm reading this thread as we're trying to decide about moving back to the UK. Everything everyone's said is so helpful, and we should all just make the best decisions in 2008 for our families

martin davidson

i agree everyone has do do whats best for them.we have been back 2yrs on jan28th and have no regrets at all.if you have gone out on a skilled visa its so different to a 457ie visa which we got four yrs ago,very hard, has anyone achieved everything on the 457. if we was on a normal visa i think things may of been different as we were not allowed to work we had to purchase a bussiness it was very difficult,as there was some rubbish out there, alot of people love and connect with oz good luck to them, i found through experience of talking to people that alot wanted to come home but didnt have the funds or there children were settled and didnt want to disturb them,so many different stories,i love reading this topic as we can relate to so much to what has been said,got to do what is best for you and your family.been snowing a little in uk today,bit of a nip in the air lovely ha ha, any way a very big happy new year to all and to all boomberang pommes that cant make there minds up,been there done that not easy decision either way.just got to way up pros and cons.i love oz and the uk both got good and bad points

isleofmanmike

Hi Martin

interested to read your quote. I left Perth 19 years ago and I am now considering returning on a busines visa( i did not get citizenship during my 15 years in aussie) I dont know why I am still drawn to going back, but is possibly due to my sister, mum and brother living there. My wife and two teenage kids are not that keeen on going to live there, eventhough they miss theire nana and uncle. The visa I would go on is a 4 year temporary visa but you can apply for permanent visa after 2 years. I have been offerwed a 20% stake in a business in Mandurah in Financialk Services ( I am a UK Financial Adviser)

I know when I lived there I missed the UK way of life, country pubs, countryside, history, being able to fly all over europe cheaply and dont want to make another mistake.

Has any one got any advise.......I know a lot of poms boomertrang a lot between uk and aussie....must make the airlines a bloody fortune....

martin davidson

hi there,i think that the 457 has changed abit since we got ours,you can get sponsorship if you work for a company,or they increased the amount of money that you need to require to get bussiness visa,personally we found it hard as looked at a lot of bussineses and they wanted a fortune,most of the time the books did not add up or the bussiness did not turn over enough profit etc ,as you needed to employ 3 staff turn over x amount of money,the only way was to go out in the sticks then that way you only needed to employ one staff,but it was a gamble.and also when we got our visa we were told that we could borrow money for buissnes as we purchased our house out right,but that wasnt the case as martin could not get a job so by martin not being allowed to work he wasnt able to service the loan,we had the money to get a bussiness but it was a huge gamble,there are people that have been lucky and done well,but there was alot of people that had lost everything that they had worked so hard for,there was a guy that sold his business to a pomme only to open the same business round the corner so you can imagine the devastation,personally i would be very careful even if some one has offered you shares etc in there company look at the books and do your homework i no your not stupid but just some advice.you can gather that im martins wife writing this. Perth is a lovely place weather was a big factor,but i misssed liked you say the pubs etc and if i fancy going to good old blackpool for the wkend or dublin or spain its only a couple of hrs away and that is what i missed in oz,there are lovely places to go in oz but i missed just jumping on a plane etc etc.Everyone is different like i said in the topic we tryed it twice what a great experience met loads of lovely people but just wasnt for us,i do get days and think oh i wish i was there but then when we sit talking about it over a few vodkas you realize things will still be the same trying to get a business the homesick etc etc and i need to settle.not only that since we left house prices have rocketed can not believe how much they have gone up yeah you can say the same thing about the uk,but that was half of the appeal to oz cheaper house,great value of money i think that thoses days have gone for a while.we took our son with us he loved it but i feel i ruined his education going back and fourth.where now hes at college doing a three yr welding and fabrication course doing very well,he has a yr and a half to go then he wants to go to america or oz but if he falls in love then well who nos, going back to the offer that this person has said from our experience we met a lovely guy we were going to go into partnership with him,but we found out that he had some debts and our money was to bail him out and because we changed our minds he never spoke to us again it was a real shame because they were nice people.i hope that i have helped you and sorry if i have gone on and on but im happy to be back and have got and made some really good friends and at the end of the day your decision has got to be agreed by all family members dont do someting that you may regret anyway if that is what you want to do all the best luck

isleofmanmike

Hi Martins wife, sorry I dont know your name, your comments really helped. I first went to Aussie with my widowed mum who was getting married in Aussie. I was 15 years old and we moved to a small town in NSW called wee waa (no I have not spelt it wrong) I did not go back to school as I should have and really Hated Australia, missed my mates and was very lonely. The nearest city was Sydney which was 500 miles away. I worked on the cotton farms with the aboriginalls and could tell you some stories. To cut a long story short I saved up for all the family, including my new step father, to move to perth to be near my sister, still didnt settle and moved to the UK by myself at age 17. Found iot hard to make ends meet, took some o levels at school and moved back to perth one year later.....Got a job at woolies and by age 23 was a branch manager....had some really good jobs in Aussie, and found the aussies to be great, very friendly but sometimes not trustworthy. Must be the convict past or something....

As I said before I have been back in UK, now the Isle of Man, for 19 years.Married to an English girl and own my own business in Financial Services. The reason the moving back has reared its ugly head again is that for the first time since my visa expired 16 years ago I can rerturn on a business visa due to my current business turnover increasing over recent years to the required amount. I do miss my sister a lot, we are very close and would love to live near her again, also my mum and brother are living there again. If told you how many times my mum has boomeranged back and forward you would not believe me, but now in her 70's her travelling days are over....

Sorry this also seems to be an epic story. The visa you emigrated on, the 457, was that a business visa or was it a temporary work visa that could becaume permanent. Do you miss the Aussie weather, or do you feel it is to hot there in summer. My wife enjoys the seasons and the snow yesterday was greaty to see.

martin davidson

hi there my name is ginney we were on a 457ie tempoary visa and if we got a bussines after 4 yrs we could then apply for permanent residency, yeah i like the seasons chucking it down with rain here dosent bother me,heat was too hot for me in oz,spent most of the time indoors with air condition on or in pool.so does your wife want to go back to oz with you.women find it harder to settle i think, got to go out now bye let me no what you do or any conclusions

isleofmanmike

Hi Ginney

My wife is not to keen on going back, she lived there for three years with me before we had the kids. She loved it and did not want to return back to UK, but I brought her back. She warned me that if we returned to UK she would never return to Aussie. I tried to persuade her before my visa expired but she would not budge. I am thinking that it is now to late, with my kids beeing older. I have even suggested keeping a property over here and going for 4 years, 2 years to get permanent and a further two for citizenship. I have untill my daughter is 18 in October to apply otherwise she would be to old to go with us and I would not leaver her here. My wife is not close to any of her family and dooes not see them or speak to them often, we are both much closer to my family in Perth so there is no emotional family ties to leave. Lifes a bitch sometimes aint it.

St.Georges Girl

Have you asked in the Australian immigration forum about the 457 Visa? I would advise you do as we know quite a number of people who have come to Perth on that and have really struggled with getting their businesses going. One couple we know have recently gone back to the UK 'cos they found it just too hard.

isleofmanmike

Thanks for your reply, I would love to hear stories of people who have gone on bus visa, good or bad. If you have any links to threads on this subject it would be appreciated. St Georges Girl, are you still i Aussie or have you moved back to UK. If still there do you intend to return back.

martin davidson

its quite funny what you say about familys mike,when we left to go to oz we didnt say goodbye to many then when we came back the situation was worse long story but we dont speak to hardly any family we are the the blacksheep now never mind eh. again i agree go and look further into the 457,sounds like your wife and family are settled? just you then that needs to sort yourself out,funny how things go today we have spoken about opening a bar in spain ha ha and its only four hrs away compared to oz.our son is 18 hes quite settled got his own life and his mates,does your daughter want to go?

St.Georges Girl

I'm still in Perth, but hope to be going home for good within the year.

I don't have any links for you, but go into the Oz forum and the Oz immigration forum too, you might find some posts there. A neighbour of ours came out on the 457 and bought a car sales business, strangely enough, from another migrant on a 457 who packed up and went home. Our neighbour has since sold the business, which didn't do well at all (because there are far too many to compete with) and is now a Financial Advisor. The last time we spoke, they were unsure as to their future because their outgoings far exceeded their incomings and were getting into debt. The cost of living has gone up enormously here in the past few years, as have house prices, so I would really do alot of homework before you make that final decision.

How do your teenagers feel about coming here? I would say that would another consideration, because if they come out with you, they may well decided to go back and then the family will be split.