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-   The Rovers Return (https://britishexpats.com/forum/rovers-return-111/)
-   -   RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND (https://britishexpats.com/forum/rovers-return-111/recent-trip-england-682311/)

Michael Aug 23rd 2010 3:48 pm
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8798391)
"Pretty much, discount the exchange rate, if your not a tourist, it isn't something that affects you.

CoL is what it is, $50 t-shirt is still a pricey t-shirt, just like a £50 t-shirt. That same t-shirt seems cheap to the tourist because they equate it to being £35, but if your earning dollars and spend all your time in dollars, the squid makes no difference."



Dont get this whatsoever and i am sure i am not the only idiot that does not get it but thats ok, onto the next topic!!
I guess if you lived in Japan then 1 Yen would equal 1 US$ or in Mexico then 1 peso would equal 1 US$.

VivDee Aug 23rd 2010 9:55 pm
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8798391)
"Pretty much, discount the exchange rate, if your not a tourist, it isn't something that affects you.

CoL is what it is, $50 t-shirt is still a pricey t-shirt, just like a £50 t-shirt. That same t-shirt seems cheap to the tourist because they equate it to being £35, but if your earning dollars and spend all your time in dollars, the squid makes no difference."



Dont get this whatsoever and i am sure i am not the only idiot that does not get it but thats ok, onto the next topic!!
I DON"T GET IT EITHER!!!!

Englishtart Aug 24th 2010 1:02 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by VivDee (Post 8799016)
I DON"T GET IT EITHER!!!!
I take what he is saying as...if you get paid in dollars, then you are used to seeing/paying for goods in dollars, if you get paid in pounds (live in the UK) then same goes there with pounds. COL= cost of living, the cost of goods usually reflects the median wage for the area, so in a cheaper area in the US/UK you can usually buy goods for less than expensive ritzy areas:confused:

scrubbedexpat097 Aug 24th 2010 1:08 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 8799468)
I take what he is saying as...if you get paid in dollars, then you are used to seeing/paying for goods in dollars, if you get paid in pounds (live in the UK) then same goes there with pounds. COL= cost of living, the cost of goods usually reflects the median wage for the area, so in a cheaper area in the US/UK you can usually buy goods for less than expensive ritzy areas:confused:

That's exactly what I thought and he is right. You can't judge what is cheaper or more expensive if you are not earning that currency and living there.

cindyabs Aug 24th 2010 1:41 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Sugarmooma (Post 8798222)
But that's the point, why should we expect everyone to be able to speak English? I think we are very spoiled really, over the years going on package holidays to Spain, Greece, Portugal and not having to worry too much about the language because they cater so well to the English speaking holiday makers makes us automatically think it should be the same all over. A little effort (like your schoolgirl French) is probably appreciated because at least you are trying.
I've always tried to learn the rudiments, (ie hello, goodbye, please, thank you )of the language of the country I was visiting, even if only for a week. The natives do seem to appreciate it, probably gives them a good laugh. :o

Couldn't quite crack Malta though. :unsure:

robin1234 Aug 24th 2010 1:52 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 8799578)
I've always tried to learn the rudiments, (ie hello, goodbye, please, thank you )of the language of the country I was visiting, even if only for a week. The natives do seem to appreciate it, probably gives them a good laugh. :o

Couldn't quite crack Malta though. :unsure:
Yes -- we spent a week in Poland last year. I'm afraid I just spoke English or resorted to sign language. My wife made an effort to ask folks how to say please, thank you and a few other simple words, then she practised those on other people. Folks in shops, museums, train conductors etc. seemed to really appreciate it.

Bob Aug 24th 2010 3:11 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Michael (Post 8798456)
I guess if you lived in Japan then 1 Yen would equal 1 US$ or in Mexico then 1 peso would equal 1 US$.
We're not talking those countries are we though. For the UK and EU in general, a 1:1 is a pretty good rule of thumb.

Bob Aug 24th 2010 3:11 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8798391)
Dont get this whatsoever and i am sure i am not the only idiot that does not get it but thats ok, onto the next topic!!
It's not complicated.

Your not a tourist, stop thinking like one.

Michael Aug 24th 2010 3:22 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Bob (Post 8799813)
It's not complicated.

Your not a tourist, stop thinking like one.
I don't see what that has to do with tourism. Someone living in Manchester won't accept a job in London unless there is a large salary increase. The same is true in the states where people won't accept a job in NYC or the Silicon Valley unless they get a big increase in salary.

The same is true between countries in that there has to be a way to compare prices.

HumphreyC Aug 24th 2010 4:17 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Michael (Post 8799852)
I don't see what that has to do with tourism. Someone living in Manchester won't accept a job in London unless there is a large salary increase. The same is true in the states where people won't accept a job in NYC or the Silicon Valley unless they get a big increase in salary.

The same is true between countries in that there has to be a way to compare prices.
I guess that to make the comparison meaningful you would have to factor in what the average wage is, so for instance if the average wage is higher in that particular part of the U.S is say $35,000 and the wage in the U.K is £24,000 then the $50-£50 t-shirt is going to be more affordable than the £50 one. But that won't really be adequate because you would need to look at the whole cost of living to get a accurate picture - i.e how much the average person gets shafted under the different systems. I'd try and work it out but it would make my brain hurt.

Englishtart Aug 24th 2010 4:41 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by HumphreyC (Post 8799993)
I guess that to make the comparison meaningful you would have to factor in what the average wage is, so for instance if the average wage is higher in that particular part of the U.S is say $35,000 and the wage in the U.K is £24,000 then the $50-£50 t-shirt is going to be more affordable than the £50 one. But that won't really be adequate because you would need to look at the whole cost of living to get a accurate picture - i.e how much the average person gets shafted under the different systems. I'd try and work it out but it would make my brain hurt.
I thought that is what I said? (tried to say):huh:

nethead Aug 24th 2010 4:53 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 8800043)
I thought that is what I said? (tried to say):huh:
You did ;) I don't understand why people don't get what Bob is saying, he didn't even use any bobisms :)

HumphreyC Aug 24th 2010 5:50 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by Englishtart (Post 8800043)
I thought that is what I said? (tried to say):huh:
Ah yes, that is what you said. Sorry I must have skim read it.

Englishtart Aug 24th 2010 6:09 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by nethead (Post 8800074)
You did ;) I don't understand why people don't get what Bob is saying, he didn't even use any bobisms :)
must be the 'Americanisms' :lol:

zargof Aug 24th 2010 6:30 am
Re: RECENT TRIP TO ENGLAND
 
Originally Posted by cindyabs (Post 8799578)
I've always tried to learn the rudiments, (ie hello, goodbye, please, thank you )of the language of the country I was visiting, even if only for a week. The natives do seem to appreciate it, probably gives them a good laugh. :o

Couldn't quite crack Malta though. :unsure:
ISTR Maltese is similar to Italian, so if you know Italian you could just about get by. But everyone speaks English as well which is handy. Nice place.


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