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niksha Sep 1st 2010 2:52 pm

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Guess i am too American now after 33 yrs here in the states!!Nice to hear "Have a nice day" or Can i help you"even if they dont mean it!!far better than being a miserable git who is probably saying to himself underneath his breath" Piss off u wanker and dont come back!!!!PS I think someone should really start an HONEST survey on whose customer support is better .USA or British?Iill start it off. USA is better. let's go!!!

benblaney Sep 1st 2010 3:04 pm

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Originally Posted by robin1234 (Post 8804840)
As a life-long Socialist, I've always assumed that Cuba was not only a workers' paradise but also provided a good standard of living for the elderly and less fortunate. Image my shock when I read this on the BBC site.

"...Angela Jimenez, a 64-year-old who receives a monthly pension of about $10 (£6.50)." Bloody hell, that is even less than the UK State Pension!!

Well, they have some absurd and vindictive sanctions applied to them, which is most of the problem.

Yes they still have a higher literacy rate that the USA. How about that.

benblaney Sep 1st 2010 3:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Lothianlad (Post 8802180)
Well, after thirteen years of a Labour Government which deliberately lowered social standards in the UK what else would you expect? Manners in the sense you mean is now considered "old fashioned" -only the other day an official report on the current British social scene stated that the simple words "thank you" have now become obsolete in many cases - they have also been declared "old fashioned" and have been replaced by "cheers" "ta" "there you go!" "wicked!" - or just a complete silence, nothing at all.
<snip>
This is now a very "stressed out" country, over populated, and all the ridiculous policies of the previous Labour Government foisted on this country, everything from the extension of licensing hours and therefore the facilitation of binge drinking, unrestrained immigration
<snip>
It will take a long time to repair.

1. What is your rationale for suggesting that a Government deliberately lowered social standards?

2. Which "official report" states that the words "thank you" have become obsolete, and replaced by "cheers" or variants thereof?

3. Are you campaigning for the active return of the word "slubberdegullion" if you are not keen on words becoming obsolete?

4. In what way is immigration "unrestrained" in the UK?

5. If you are opposed to immigration, why are you posting on a board for British immigrants to the U.S.A.?

6. How would you go about "repairing" things (regardless of how long it takes)? Sending black people back where they came from?

benblaney Sep 1st 2010 3:17 pm

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Originally Posted by VivDee (Post 8802401)
Another true post.

Poor Old England !!! It surely has been taken over by giving the country away!!!

Sadly the USA is following the same way with Obama.
Yet I feel he will not win the next election!! Plus I hope he is made a lame duck President in the Nov elections!!!

As Maggie Thatcher said. "Socialism is good until you run out of someone else monay"


Would you really categorize Barack Obama as a socialist?

benblaney Sep 1st 2010 3:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Hiro11 (Post 8819114)
Are you insane?

It's absolutely essential to raise taxes now, to reduce the deficit. That's a stone-cold fact.

islandwoman120 Sep 1st 2010 3:41 pm

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8820167)
Guess i am too American now after 33 yrs here in the states!!Nice to hear "Have a nice day" or Can i help you"even if they dont mean it!!far better than being a miserable git who is probably saying to himself underneath his breath" Piss off u wanker and dont come back!!!!PS I think someone should really start an HONEST survey on whose customer support is better .USA or British?Iill start it off. USA is better. let's go!!!

I am jumping in here as this is supposed to be about (personal) experiences of British v USA manners etc. I last visited Britain in 2004 and I had numerous courtesies extended to me. First was in Reading train station, where I was unsure if I was on the correct platform. So I asked the nearest person, then as the train pulled in, the same person I had spoken to - a younger woman - lifted one of my suitcases onto the train, and her companion lifted the other suitcase. After I thanked them, they asked where I was going to, and mentioned that I had to change trains and platforms (which I already knew) and that they were going the same way. Well, when the train pulled in there was only 5 minutes before the next train left, and the platform was far away, necessitating either the stairs or an elevator. Before I knew what happened, an entire family (Mum, Dad and young males in their late teenage years) had carried my two cases and my carry on bag and run for the elevators, telling me to run for the stairs and they would meet me on the correct platform - which they did. Again, the cases got put onto the new train, whereupon a young woman in British Army gear lifted the bags into place for me, and, when the train reached my destination, lifted them on to the platform for me - all without being asked. The final stage of my journey - two weeks later - involved a bus trip, and a young man at the Bus Depot lifted my case onto the bus, and off again when I disembarked. I never experienced any negative vibes, only politeness, even to the stupidest of my questions - I was obviously a 'tourist' (though I am a UK citizen and lived there for 20+ years). When asked by various Americans what I miss most about Britain, I have always answered "the manners". BTW, I am not old, nor am I infirm - at the time I was in my mid fifties so I don't think it was a question of helping an old person. I just think most people have good manners, and I hope that is always the case. Rose coloured glasses? Sure. Love the colour.

Bob Sep 2nd 2010 8:56 am

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Originally Posted by niksha (Post 8820167)
...USA or British?Iill start it off. USA is better. let's go!!!

Customer service, lets be honest, it's crap in either country bar the odd exception....and that's when it hasn't been out sourced :D

Sally Redux Sep 2nd 2010 9:01 am

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Originally Posted by Bob (Post 8822004)
Customer service, lets be honest, it's crap in either country bar the odd exception....and that's when it hasn't been out sourced :D

We've been trying to get satisfaction on our cable/internet problems for months - really poor service - but why should they care, the cable is carved up so there's only one provider where we are. I haven't been impressed by any customer service here. Sometimes you'll get very fake, obvious fawning from someone who wants a tip, otherwise forget it.

meauxna Sep 2nd 2010 11:58 am

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8822015)
I haven't been impressed by any customer service here. Sometimes you'll get very fake, obvious fawning from someone who wants a tip, otherwise forget it.

My work partner and I were talking about this today; we have a boutique in a trendy tourist town and give very high-touch customer service. What we have noticed is that people don't know how to *accept* proper service anymore. It's like, if they can't order it on their i-phone, they don't want to know. They're simply unlearning the experience of individualized assistance. Older people appreciate it. <shrug> Our place isn't set up for self-serve, but that's part of the whole package (and we live on our return customers).

Not saying that ^^ is related to your experience, Sally.. (tho you are 'old enough' to fit into my category of people who remember, lol!)

Sally Redux Sep 2nd 2010 1:55 pm

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Originally Posted by meauxna (Post 8822324)
My work partner and I were talking about this today; we have a boutique in a trendy tourist town and give very high-touch customer service. What we have noticed is that people don't know how to *accept* proper service anymore. It's like, if they can't order it on their i-phone, they don't want to know. They're simply unlearning the experience of individualized assistance. Older people appreciate it. <shrug> Our place isn't set up for self-serve, but that's part of the whole package (and we live on our return customers).

Not saying that ^^ is related to your experience, Sally.. (tho you are 'old enough' to fit into my category of people who remember, lol!)

Yes, interesting point. I am old enough to remember things like really knowledgeable staff in hi-fi and bookstores. People aren't looking for that any more.

chartreuse Sep 2nd 2010 4:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Sally Redux (Post 8822510)
Yes, interesting point. I am old enough to remember things like really knowledgeable staff in hi-fi and bookstores. People aren't looking for that any more.

Some of us are. That's why I try to shop at independents, rather than corporate cess pools.

Sally Redux Sep 3rd 2010 2:24 am

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Originally Posted by chartreuse (Post 8822685)
Some of us are. That's why I try to shop at independents, rather than corporate cess pools.

Yeah but you're old too :lol:

Falcore Sep 3rd 2010 3:25 am

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Late to this thred I know but I just had to comment! I am still in England, Stockport so Manchester/Cheshire type area and I have to say I don't see any of this day to day rudeness and bad service.

People are on the whole are friendly, smile and say hello in shops. Waitresses look after you and are polite even in cheap to eat places and life really isn't half as bad as is being painted here. Even in London I can't say service or levels of friendly-ness have been off.

I can't say I find it expensive to live and I think only the ones that have lost their jobs have really understandably felt the pinch. Yes we want to leave but not because we hate it here but because we want the adventure of life in another country. :D

Dan725 Sep 3rd 2010 3:28 am

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Originally Posted by benblaney (Post 8820202)
Would you really categorize Barack Obama as a socialist?

Come on now, he's not just a socialist.....he's a communist muslim nazi who was born overseas and in actual fact, not even a US citizen! ;)

Englishtart Sep 3rd 2010 3:31 am

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Originally Posted by Falcore (Post 8823765)
Late to this thred I know but I just had to comment! I am still in England, Stockport so Manchester/Cheshire type area and I have to say I don't see any of this day to day rudeness and bad service.

People are on the whole are friendly, smile and say hello in shops. Waitresses look after you and are polite even in cheap to eat places and life really isn't half as bad as is being painted here. Even in London I can't say service or levels of friendly-ness have been off.

I can't say I find it expensive to live and I think only the ones that have lost their jobs have really understandably felt the pinch. Yes we want to leave but not because we hate it here but because we want the adventure of life in another country. :D

Great post and lovely to read that my old home town is not full of ignorant buggers!:lol:


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