OVER 50's+ MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Hey Don thanks for letting us know about that US job offer and if I remember you told us not to bug you about it so we didn't. I'm glad you are staying in Scotland and I hope your situation changes for you.
I have done career changes and I've done alright. Once, I went into business for myself and did something I enjoyed.
I have done career changes and I've done alright. Once, I went into business for myself and did something I enjoyed.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Pleeeese what? It's OK not to pay your debts but save up $20,000? Pleeeese right back at you.
I'm currently in a hole with my UK house and recently turned down a job opportunity in the US because I decided it wasn't worth taking a £40k hit by selling up and losing all the capital I have invested in the house.
The idea of simply defaulting and letting the UK taxpayer carry the budren of what I owe wouldn't even occur to me. It would be the same if I lived in the US. I'm no fan of the greedy bankers, but all this talk of people being "trapped" and "fooled" and "conned" (all your words) into taking out mortgages is a load of baloney. Two wrongs (greed followed by lack of personal responsibility) don't make a right.
I'm currently in a hole with my UK house and recently turned down a job opportunity in the US because I decided it wasn't worth taking a £40k hit by selling up and losing all the capital I have invested in the house.
The idea of simply defaulting and letting the UK taxpayer carry the budren of what I owe wouldn't even occur to me. It would be the same if I lived in the US. I'm no fan of the greedy bankers, but all this talk of people being "trapped" and "fooled" and "conned" (all your words) into taking out mortgages is a load of baloney. Two wrongs (greed followed by lack of personal responsibility) don't make a right.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
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Pleeeese what? It's OK not to pay your debts but save up $20,000? Pleeeese right back at you.
I'm currently in a hole with my UK house and recently turned down a job opportunity in the US because I decided it wasn't worth taking a £40k hit by selling up and losing all the capital I have invested in the house. The idea of simply defaulting and letting the UK taxpayer carry the budren of what I owe wouldn't even occur to me. It would be the same if I lived in the US. I'm no fan of the greedy bankers, but all this talk of people being "trapped" and "fooled" and "conned" (all your words) into taking out mortgages is a load of baloney. Two wrongs (greed followed by lack of personal responsibility) don't make a right.
I'm currently in a hole with my UK house and recently turned down a job opportunity in the US because I decided it wasn't worth taking a £40k hit by selling up and losing all the capital I have invested in the house. The idea of simply defaulting and letting the UK taxpayer carry the budren of what I owe wouldn't even occur to me. It would be the same if I lived in the US. I'm no fan of the greedy bankers, but all this talk of people being "trapped" and "fooled" and "conned" (all your words) into taking out mortgages is a load of baloney. Two wrongs (greed followed by lack of personal responsibility) don't make a right.
#3125
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
The house situation wouldn't prevent me moving if everything else (or almost everything else) looked right. Quality of life would be worth a £40k sacrifice, I tell you.
Unfortunately my current house isn't especially rentable because it is not on a decent public transport route, and I wouldn't want to risk having to deal with paying a mortgage on an empty house. If I do move, I won't be buying a house for a while, I don't think, renting will be the way to go.
I can sympathise greatly with everyone on here who is trying to move back to the UK but can't because of selling their house. And I'm as mad as everyone else that the situation has a lot to do with greedy banks. I think it hurts the economy in many ways, not least because when people are unable to move (regardless of whether it's between or within countries) it makes it very difficult for employers to hire highly skilled people.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Hello
I hope someone out there can help with some advice please. This is my first post and relates to my parents.
They both moved to Majorca 3 years ago and are 65 and 66 respectively. They have no funds to speak of, no property as they rented and have now to return back to the UK. They can not live with family members due to lack of space in both my place and my sisters so in my mind they would be classed as homeless and skint.
I have read a number of posts about the HRT and wonder how this may affect their return and their chances of getting a house through the council either where I live or where their friends and my sister live. They do have a UK bank account which I think might help but I am not sure about GP registration. They have been getting the winter fuel allowance whilst they have been abroad but I am not sure how this helps.
I have spoken to my local housing association who have referred my to the council because they deal with the homeless but until my parents are back I can not do anything.
They are due back this week so any guidance or advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks
I hope someone out there can help with some advice please. This is my first post and relates to my parents.
They both moved to Majorca 3 years ago and are 65 and 66 respectively. They have no funds to speak of, no property as they rented and have now to return back to the UK. They can not live with family members due to lack of space in both my place and my sisters so in my mind they would be classed as homeless and skint.
I have read a number of posts about the HRT and wonder how this may affect their return and their chances of getting a house through the council either where I live or where their friends and my sister live. They do have a UK bank account which I think might help but I am not sure about GP registration. They have been getting the winter fuel allowance whilst they have been abroad but I am not sure how this helps.
I have spoken to my local housing association who have referred my to the council because they deal with the homeless but until my parents are back I can not do anything.
They are due back this week so any guidance or advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks
#3127
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
I had my transfusion back in 1991 which was well before mad cow. I was a blood donor prior to my own tranfusion but after that I was banned. Very strange, and a little unnerving.
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#3129
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Hello
I hope someone out there can help with some advice please. This is my first post and relates to my parents.
They both moved to Majorca 3 years ago and are 65 and 66 respectively. They have no funds to speak of, no property as they rented and have now to return back to the UK. They can not live with family members due to lack of space in both my place and my sisters so in my mind they would be classed as homeless and skint.
I have read a number of posts about the HRT and wonder how this may affect their return and their chances of getting a house through the council either where I live or where their friends and my sister live. They do have a UK bank account which I think might help but I am not sure about GP registration. They have been getting the winter fuel allowance whilst they have been abroad but I am not sure how this helps.
I have spoken to my local housing association who have referred my to the council because they deal with the homeless but until my parents are back I can not do anything.
They are due back this week so any guidance or advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks
I hope someone out there can help with some advice please. This is my first post and relates to my parents.
They both moved to Majorca 3 years ago and are 65 and 66 respectively. They have no funds to speak of, no property as they rented and have now to return back to the UK. They can not live with family members due to lack of space in both my place and my sisters so in my mind they would be classed as homeless and skint.
I have read a number of posts about the HRT and wonder how this may affect their return and their chances of getting a house through the council either where I live or where their friends and my sister live. They do have a UK bank account which I think might help but I am not sure about GP registration. They have been getting the winter fuel allowance whilst they have been abroad but I am not sure how this helps.
I have spoken to my local housing association who have referred my to the council because they deal with the homeless but until my parents are back I can not do anything.
They are due back this week so any guidance or advice would be really appreciated.
Thanks
#3130
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
I just had a bit of an epiphany. I've been thinking that before we could move, we would need to sell our house. But actually we pay so damn much for health benefits that we could simply take that money and use it to afford a rental in the UK. Because we'll just keep running our business from the UK, our income shouldn't change, so we wouldn't actually be any worse off. (If you need any bigger indication of how ludicrous our health system is for small business owners, I could actually afford to rent a house with the money I'll save!)
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
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I just had a bit of an epiphany. I've been thinking that before we could move, we would need to sell our house. But actually we pay so damn much for health benefits that we could simply take that money and use it to afford a rental in the UK. Because we'll just keep running our business from the UK, our income shouldn't change, so we wouldn't actually be any worse off. (If you need any bigger indication of how ludicrous our health system is for small business owners, I could actually afford to rent a house with the money I'll save!)
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
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Effectively it is. It costs no more than the contributions I currently make to social security and Medicare as a self-employed person.
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
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Effectively it is. It costs no more than the contributions I currently make to social security and Medicare as a self-employed person.
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
Effectively it is. It costs no more than the contributions I currently make to social security and Medicare as a self-employed person.
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
In fact, US tax law is so screwed up that my husband and I are taxed more for SS and Medicare than we would be in the UK (couples who work together get dinged very hard in this country).
I've already had all our taxes analyzed by a UK accountant and comparatively speaking they are about the same, while cost of living in the UK is considerably lower. If we ever get super-rich, the tax burden in the UK would be higher, but sadly I don't anticipate having to worry about that!
Apart from healthcare, which you might ultimately prefer to have as private in the Uk also which would cost you, what is it that causes a higher cost of living in the US in particular? .....Comparing apples with apples.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK - Part II
I just had a bit of an epiphany. I've been thinking that before we could move, we would need to sell our house. But actually we pay so damn much for health benefits that we could simply take that money and use it to afford a rental in the UK. Because we'll just keep running our business from the UK, our income shouldn't change, so we wouldn't actually be any worse off. (If you need any bigger indication of how ludicrous our health system is for small business owners, I could actually afford to rent a house with the money I'll save!)
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
Then we could empty the house here, have it all redecorated and cleaned, and put it on the market when we're gone. That leaves the cats as the only complicating factor. If I can get over the idea that moving them is cruel (and get my husband over the same thing) we might be able to go sooner than I thought.
Fish n' Chips, have you thought of doing this? I know you don't have to pay as much as me for health care, but I think I remember that you pay quite a lot.
When I was still working in the US at my last Job, I remember a few months ago talking to one of my colleges who I remember was a married man in his 50,s and we were talking about Obamas health care reform, and he the guy at work being a big lifetime republican was dead against it, so I asked him do you have health insurance? he said yes I have it with my wifes company where she works and we have a great deal too, we can see any Doctor we like and the prescription plan covers most drugs but not all, and everytime we go to the Docs office we only pay $30 co-pay and just $50 for a specialist and guess what he said I have to go and have a MRI shortly and my co-pay is only $400, and my eye glasses only cost me $189 with my insurance,
This man was so pleased that he and wife had such a remarkable deal on there employers health care plan So of course I knew whatever I said at this point would do nothing to bursting his bubble, so I just asked him how much he pays for his and wifes health care? and he said thats the best part, $750 per month thats all that is deducted from her pay check, --- can you imagine? his entire wages for the month were about that much take home, but the insurance was on his wifes company and she made a lot more then him at her Job,
All I could think of was OMG $750 per month was what I was paying for my one bedroom apartment in Vegas,
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