OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Nov 26th 2010, 11:50 pm
#8269
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Today I went to Walthamstow, to see the house where William Morris, textile designer, printer, and socialist, lived. The house was fine, set about 15 minutes walk from the tube station (Walthamstow Central) but the walk was very uncomfortable. First of all, I misguidedly thought I was going to the countryside, because that is what used to be the case - in about 1890! And I was looking forward to a train ride above ground - which never happened - underground all the way. The walk across town took me into what is probably not the best area of Walthamstow, and when I saw more than one burqua being worn, and Halal shops, I was a bit unsetteld. However, I managed to get to the museum and gallery without incident, and enjoyed the visit. Then negotiated the return journey, using the opposite side of the street to the one I had originally walked down. This one had black ice on it in spots, as last night was yeah cold, so that added to the excitement - a kind man grabbed me just before I went down, and I ended up going into the Halal shop to buy a bottle of water to settle my nerves!
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
I think it definitely depends on the area you are in. For instance where I now live is mainly Australian or European people, so I don't believe I have seen anybody in this dress around these parts.
My son took me to a suburb one day I had never been and that was a whole different story it was like another world, also the airport at the Arabic countries airline check in counters is a whole eye opener.
I remember a street in London like that too, I can't remember what it is called now but I had to pinch myself to remind myself I was in the UK.
Nov 27th 2010, 12:05 am
#8270
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Today I went to Walthamstow, to see the house where William Morris, textile designer, printer, and socialist, lived. The house was fine, set about 15 minutes walk from the tube station (Walthamstow Central) but the walk was very uncomfortable. First of all, I misguidedly thought I was going to the countryside, because that is what used to be the case - in about 1890! And I was looking forward to a train ride above ground - which never happened - underground all the way. The walk across town took me into what is probably not the best area of Walthamstow, and when I saw more than one burqua being worn, and Halal shops, I was a bit unsetteld. However, I managed to get to the museum and gallery without incident, and enjoyed the visit. Then negotiated the return journey, using the opposite side of the street to the one I had originally walked down. This one had black ice on it in spots, as last night was yeah cold, so that added to the excitement - a kind man grabbed me just before I went down, and I ended up going into the Halal shop to buy a bottle of water to settle my nerves!
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
Nov 27th 2010, 12:24 am
#8271
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Foreign born people seem to assimilate very quickly in the US. They might wear veils, sari's, turbans, etc. when they arrive, but their children usually start wearing blue jeans and T-shirts very quickly. No particular reason why, it's always been like that. I saw a man wearing a turban in Publix once, and I did a double take. I laughed at myself when I remember I used to live and London, and how common place it was.
I was at a hotel in Orlando this summer, and saw quite a few women wearing "modesty" swimming attire. I had never seen that before.
I was at a hotel in Orlando this summer, and saw quite a few women wearing "modesty" swimming attire. I had never seen that before.
Nov 27th 2010, 12:32 am
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Today I went to Walthamstow, to see the house where William Morris, textile designer, printer, and socialist, lived. The house was fine, set about 15 minutes walk from the tube station (Walthamstow Central) but the walk was very uncomfortable. First of all, I misguidedly thought I was going to the countryside, because that is what used to be the case - in about 1890! And I was looking forward to a train ride above ground - which never happened - underground all the way. The walk across town took me into what is probably not the best area of Walthamstow, and when I saw more than one burqua being worn, and Halal shops, I was a bit unsetteld. However, I managed to get to the museum and gallery without incident, and enjoyed the visit. Then negotiated the return journey, using the opposite side of the street to the one I had originally walked down. This one had black ice on it in spots, as last night was yeah cold, so that added to the excitement - a kind man grabbed me just before I went down, and I ended up going into the Halal shop to buy a bottle of water to settle my nerves!
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
So the question of burquas came up when I got back to my friend's house, and I mentioned that I had never seen them in the USA, and that I thought it was such a paranoid nation following on 9/11, that it would not be good to be seen wearing one of those items of clothing. They were shocked, because here in the UK, many women wear them - which is strange to me. So they asked me to ask you who live in the USA if this is acceptable garb, or if like France, it is frowned upon. I could not make a sensible answer because I had never seen one worn while I lived in the states, possibly because of the area in which I lived - though I told my friends that I had visited Chicago, Minneapolis, Atlanta and smaller towns and cities from one end of the states to the other, and had never seen it being worn, therefore I concluded that it was not worn in the states. My logic may be skewed, so I need your input. If this discussion is unsuitable for this thread, will the moderator please move it to where it should be located. I am not intending to start a discussion, I just need an answer - I did Google it, but cannot find anything conclusive, and am not in the mood to do serious research on this topic. If this is considered too delicate a topic to be on this site, please dump it and forget the entire question. Thanks.
Nov 27th 2010, 2:09 am
#8273
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
"Your post mentions specifics in terms of cost of seeing a healthcare professional - you must also remember that the NHS doesn't cover all aiments and treatments. If you are in the UK and entitled to NHS cover, it doesn't 'Automatically' mean that everything is covered - far from it. If you contract,or have a condition etc that ISN'T covered, you are then required to pay from your own pocket."
Go back to this guy and ask him which medical illness or ailment is NOT covered, just ask him for ONE example? Maybe not holistics like massages and herbal treatments and hypnotherapy and stuff...........
Here in Australia we do have government medical cover for which we pay a small amount per year, but we do still have to sometimes get our wallet out, for instance I went to the doctor this week who didn't bulk bill (Government term) as I didn't realise this, that cost me $30.00 for the gap and then $35.00 for my prescription, in the UK that would have cost me nothing for the doctor and £7.00 for the prescription. That's almost a fifth of the cost here. Prescriptions here are all different prices dependent on what drug it is, as far as I know they are all a standard £7.00 in the UK but free in Wales - does anybody know why that is?
Cheers, Tell him that I know somebody in the UK who was grossly obese. She had a gastric banding operation in a PRIVATE hospital on the NHS, and they paid for her husband to stay one night in a hotel so he could be near to her even though he only lived less than an hour's drive away!!
I am not sure here in Australia if you can even get this done on Medicare.......and even less likely in the USA........
Go back to this guy and ask him which medical illness or ailment is NOT covered, just ask him for ONE example? Maybe not holistics like massages and herbal treatments and hypnotherapy and stuff...........
Here in Australia we do have government medical cover for which we pay a small amount per year, but we do still have to sometimes get our wallet out, for instance I went to the doctor this week who didn't bulk bill (Government term) as I didn't realise this, that cost me $30.00 for the gap and then $35.00 for my prescription, in the UK that would have cost me nothing for the doctor and £7.00 for the prescription. That's almost a fifth of the cost here. Prescriptions here are all different prices dependent on what drug it is, as far as I know they are all a standard £7.00 in the UK but free in Wales - does anybody know why that is?
Cheers, Tell him that I know somebody in the UK who was grossly obese. She had a gastric banding operation in a PRIVATE hospital on the NHS, and they paid for her husband to stay one night in a hotel so he could be near to her even though he only lived less than an hour's drive away!!
I am not sure here in Australia if you can even get this done on Medicare.......and even less likely in the USA........
Honestly he sounds like he's grasping at straws.
Ds had a plantar wart last winter, (sounds simple enough), the doctor wanted to use a shot into the wart as it's very successful, and the patches from the chemist didn't do a thing. So they give me a script and send me off to the pharmacy to pick up the shot, $100 later we find out the shot isn't covered so I have to pay cash for it, all for a flippin wart. Some how I think the chiropodist would have fixed it on the NHS. Oh and we have wonderful medical and prescription coverage
Islandwoman I have seen very few full Burquas or hijab worn here, I have seen a lot of muslim women wear just the head cover and many Sik women in beautiful sari's. But then I'm in California and whites are pretty much a minority here, especially in the cities, I'm in the country a whole other world of cowboy boots and hats and pick up trucks
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Nov 27th 2010, 2:17 am
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
In Australia the wearing of headscarves is quite common, the full burqua maybe not so much, though you do see them. The weird thing (to me) is that in a lot of cases the husband is wearing normal Western clothes, ie shirt and jeans, I find it quite bizarre, more so than when the husband is wearing those long white shirt things with white pants. And once I was at the beach and the ladies were in the water in them, not exactly swimming but not up to their ankles either!!
I think it definitely depends on the area you are in. For instance where I now live is mainly Australian or European people, so I don't believe I have seen anybody in this dress around these parts.
My son took me to a suburb one day I had never been and that was a whole different story it was like another world, also the airport at the Arabic countries airline check in counters is a whole eye opener.
I remember a street in London like that too, I can't remember what it is called now but I had to pinch myself to remind myself I was in the UK.
I think it definitely depends on the area you are in. For instance where I now live is mainly Australian or European people, so I don't believe I have seen anybody in this dress around these parts.
My son took me to a suburb one day I had never been and that was a whole different story it was like another world, also the airport at the Arabic countries airline check in counters is a whole eye opener.
I remember a street in London like that too, I can't remember what it is called now but I had to pinch myself to remind myself I was in the UK.
Nov 27th 2010, 2:41 am
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Nov 27th 2010, 3:18 am
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Southall, sounds right!
“Many UK citizens who have moved overseas have wrongly believed that because they are a UK citizen or they have paid taxes for many years that they’ll have automatic access to the NHS if they need to come home. In many cases this has not been the case.
Whats this all about? I got this from the Daily Telegraph just now.
“Many UK citizens who have moved overseas have wrongly believed that because they are a UK citizen or they have paid taxes for many years that they’ll have automatic access to the NHS if they need to come home. In many cases this has not been the case.
Whats this all about? I got this from the Daily Telegraph just now.
Nov 27th 2010, 3:22 am
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Well I don't know about the ins and outs of this Don, but I do know one of my sisters and her husband have sold their home and are renting and using the banked money to travel, etc. They know "somebody" who had to sell up when they went into care........and so made this decision for themselves in the past year or so.......
No rental is involved. I have not known or seen cases of folks, selling and renting.. Perhaps they did not want to stay there any longer? dontheturner
Nov 27th 2010, 3:30 am
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Don,
You had me looking at Ebay and I came on this and I thought of you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-E200-...ht_1625wt_1135
You had me looking at Ebay and I came on this and I thought of you.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/MERCEDES-E200-...ht_1625wt_1135
Nov 27th 2010, 3:47 am
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
"Your post mentions specifics in terms of cost of seeing a healthcare professional - you must also remember that the NHS doesn't cover all aiments and treatments. If you are in the UK and entitled to NHS cover, it doesn't 'Automatically' mean that everything is covered - far from it. If you contract,or have a condition etc that ISN'T covered, you are then required to pay from your own pocket."
Go back to this guy and ask him which medical illness or ailment is NOT covered, just ask him for ONE example? Maybe not holistics like massages and herbal treatments and hypnotherapy and stuff...........
Here in Australia we do have government medical cover for which we pay a small amount per year, but we do still have to sometimes get our wallet out, for instance I went to the doctor this week who didn't bulk bill (Government term) as I didn't realise this, that cost me $30.00 for the gap and then $35.00 for my prescription, in the UK that would have cost me nothing for the doctor and £7.00 for the prescription. That's almost a fifth of the cost here. Prescriptions here are all different prices dependent on what drug it is, as far as I know they are all a standard £7.00 in the UK but free in Wales - does anybody know why that is?
Cheers, Tell him that I know somebody in the UK who was grossly obese. She had a gastric banding operation in a PRIVATE hospital on the NHS, and they paid for her husband to stay one night in a hotel so he could be near to her even though he only lived less than an hour's drive away!!
I am not sure here in Australia if you can even get this done on Medicare.......and even less likely in the USA........
Go back to this guy and ask him which medical illness or ailment is NOT covered, just ask him for ONE example? Maybe not holistics like massages and herbal treatments and hypnotherapy and stuff...........
Here in Australia we do have government medical cover for which we pay a small amount per year, but we do still have to sometimes get our wallet out, for instance I went to the doctor this week who didn't bulk bill (Government term) as I didn't realise this, that cost me $30.00 for the gap and then $35.00 for my prescription, in the UK that would have cost me nothing for the doctor and £7.00 for the prescription. That's almost a fifth of the cost here. Prescriptions here are all different prices dependent on what drug it is, as far as I know they are all a standard £7.00 in the UK but free in Wales - does anybody know why that is?
Cheers, Tell him that I know somebody in the UK who was grossly obese. She had a gastric banding operation in a PRIVATE hospital on the NHS, and they paid for her husband to stay one night in a hotel so he could be near to her even though he only lived less than an hour's drive away!!
I am not sure here in Australia if you can even get this done on Medicare.......and even less likely in the USA........