OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
#226
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
It took me around 5 years to decide to become a USC because of that very reason. Everyone told me I was being silly but I didn't want to treat taking another country's citizenship lightly. In the end I had to do what was best for me and my future...in case I go back to live in the UK and can't settle...so I became a USC.
Do it...you have nothing to lose but you may regret it if you don't.
Do it...you have nothing to lose but you may regret it if you don't.
#227
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Where are you moving to in Devon?
Hi again to all us aging Hippies
7 days to us going back to the UK,sold furniture for a song yesterday !and had my poor old cat put down ,my hubby was a rock and took him to the vet as I just could not face it again . We are now staying in a hotel in manchester ,uk as relatives unable to put us up for a couple of nights and then moving on with expensive hire car to our rental apartment in Devon .If only our house had sold here we would be in a far better situation financially but I live in hope .
We are both a little edgy right now ,12 years out of the Uk and I know things have changed obviously so will continue to post on this site with views on the UK and will be happy to answer any questions regarding things in the UK from people interested in returning .
A footnote ,when I am depressed I turn to You Tube and watch the funny British adverts past and present and tears of laughter watching the lancashire comedian ,Peter Kay,an absolute gem
7 days to us going back to the UK,sold furniture for a song yesterday !and had my poor old cat put down ,my hubby was a rock and took him to the vet as I just could not face it again . We are now staying in a hotel in manchester ,uk as relatives unable to put us up for a couple of nights and then moving on with expensive hire car to our rental apartment in Devon .If only our house had sold here we would be in a far better situation financially but I live in hope .
We are both a little edgy right now ,12 years out of the Uk and I know things have changed obviously so will continue to post on this site with views on the UK and will be happy to answer any questions regarding things in the UK from people interested in returning .
A footnote ,when I am depressed I turn to You Tube and watch the funny British adverts past and present and tears of laughter watching the lancashire comedian ,Peter Kay,an absolute gem
#228
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Can anyone give me some information regarding pay as you go mobile phones in Scotland. Went on web, but they had no information on what I would need to get one. Would like to get one as soon as I arrive, is that possible or do I have to be in UK for a few months to do this.
#229
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Can anyone give me some information regarding pay as you go mobile phones in Scotland. Went on web, but they had no information on what I would need to get one. Would like to get one as soon as I arrive, is that possible or do I have to be in UK for a few months to do this.
#230
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Thanks Dunroving,
Information is greatly appreciated, was going to take my one from here as it is set up for international, but decided it would be very expensive doing it that way. So will leave with husband and get one the day after arriving.
Information is greatly appreciated, was going to take my one from here as it is set up for international, but decided it would be very expensive doing it that way. So will leave with husband and get one the day after arriving.
It's as simple as walking into a mobile phone shop and buying one. Or you could order online and get sent to wherever you'll be staying. Scotland/Wales/England are all hte same. Or you could ask someone to buy one for you ready for when you arrive. I "bought" a very basic Orange PAYG that way (i.e., my brother picked one up for me prior to arrival).
#231
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
If you are going back to the UK does becoming a US Citizen in anyway harm or change your UK status?
#232
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Caveat: I'm a mobile phone numpty, so just going on what my students tell me (and they know more about mobile phones than I ever will!)
#233
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
It took me around 5 years to decide to become a USC because of that very reason. Everyone told me I was being silly but I didn't want to treat taking another country's citizenship lightly. In the end I had to do what was best for me and my future...in case I go back to live in the UK and can't settle...so I became a USC.
Do it...you have nothing to lose but you may regret it if you don't.
Do it...you have nothing to lose but you may regret it if you don't.
#234
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Re pay as you go phone--I agree it is easy, I bought one for about 20 pounds a couple of years ago and use it every time I go back to uk.
Top-ups don't last long, though!
Re citizenship, I have just reread the citizenship oath in what I believe is its current form, and not only does it say you must renounce allegiance to any other country, it has you swear that you are making the oath "without any mental reserve or evasion."
So you can't even mentally say "I don't mean it really!" without perjuring yourself.
This makes me very uncomfortable.
Top-ups don't last long, though!
Re citizenship, I have just reread the citizenship oath in what I believe is its current form, and not only does it say you must renounce allegiance to any other country, it has you swear that you are making the oath "without any mental reserve or evasion."
So you can't even mentally say "I don't mean it really!" without perjuring yourself.
This makes me very uncomfortable.
#235
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Just to clarify, that's the oath for US citizenship I'm talking about; we've been discussing the pros and cons of taking it.
#237
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
The UK does not care about your US allegiance and the US, despite the wording of the oath, does not care about your UK allegiance.
Since you have a USC husband and are planning to return to the UK, it would be extremely unwise to do so without first gaining US citizenship.
Your choice of course...
#238
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
The only con is that you will have to file a tax return with the IRS forever after. But since your husband is a USC and has to do so anyway, this will not change your tax liabilities in any way.
The UK does not care about your US allegiance and the US, despite the wording of the oath, does not care about your UK allegiance.
Since you have a USC husband and are planning to return to the UK, it would be extremely unwise to do so without first gaining US citizenship.
The UK does not care about your US allegiance and the US, despite the wording of the oath, does not care about your UK allegiance.
Since you have a USC husband and are planning to return to the UK, it would be extremely unwise to do so without first gaining US citizenship.
#239
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Re pay as you go phone--I agree it is easy, I bought one for about 20 pounds a couple of years ago and use it every time I go back to uk.
Top-ups don't last long, though!
Re citizenship, I have just reread the citizenship oath in what I believe is its current form, and not only does it say you must renounce allegiance to any other country, it has you swear that you are making the oath "without any mental reserve or evasion."
So you can't even mentally say "I don't mean it really!" without perjuring yourself.
This makes me very uncomfortable.
Top-ups don't last long, though!
Re citizenship, I have just reread the citizenship oath in what I believe is its current form, and not only does it say you must renounce allegiance to any other country, it has you swear that you are making the oath "without any mental reserve or evasion."
So you can't even mentally say "I don't mean it really!" without perjuring yourself.
This makes me very uncomfortable.
But seriously, this has come up repeatedly on BE and as others have said previously in this thread, the wording is somewhat meaningless in practice (even though it means a big deal to a lot of people because taken literally, it's a tough thing to say out loud). You have the choice to stick to your guns but really, in your situation it makes a lot of sense to take a deep breath and just do it for a whole host of practical reasons.
#240
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
But seriously, this has come up repeatedly on BE and as others have said previously in this thread, the wording is somewhat meaningless in practice (even though it means a big deal to a lot of people because taken literally, it's a tough thing to say out loud). You have the choice to stick to your guns but really, in your situation it makes a lot of sense to take a deep breath and just do it for a whole host of practical reasons.
I look on citizenship as a badge of convenience. I know that's a little cynical, but the way I look at it, I am a responsible productive "citizen" in the US so why shouldn't I avail myself of the advantages of actual citizenship?