OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
#9811
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
It's true there are homeless people everywhere - but the difference is in the degree. No one in the UK ever has to worry that, after a lifetime of hard work, they will be rendered homeless because they got sick and had to pay for treatment. In the US, there are tens of thousands of people driven into bankruptcy every year because they were unlucky enough to fall ill. No other Western civilization allows that to happen to its people - it's to America's eternal shame that it does.
My heart breaks for all those people who don't have that option.
Sadly, the situation with your mom is by no means an outlier. Thousands of people every month are denied life saving care because their insurance doesn't cover it. It just doesn't get covered on the news here because big business protects big business.
My heart breaks for all those people who don't have that option.
Sadly, the situation with your mom is by no means an outlier. Thousands of people every month are denied life saving care because their insurance doesn't cover it. It just doesn't get covered on the news here because big business protects big business.
#9812
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Hi Everyone!!
First, apologies for not having been on here in forever - and for not now trying to catch up with everybody's lives!!! It is impossible!!!! BUT, I think of you from time to time, always with fond thoughts, and I truly would love a short update (if that's possible!) on everything I have missed and am missing with my extended family here. So, please Trottytrue, who always seems to have a handle on things, can you post a brief summary for me???
Just a brief update from here in Malta. Weather has finally changed, just this week, now only about 16 by day, maybe a little less as this month goes on. Lows still nothing serious, and I haven't had to use any heat yet. Just as well, I only have one portable electric oil filled radiator! the Maltese don't do central heating in the main, so I am considering buying either a blowing fan heater or a halogen heater to put by my feet which ever room I am in. (Advice greatly appreciated!) No way can I heat the whole apartment - too big, rooms too big and floors all stone. May have to find a cheap Ryanair flight to somewhere and stay in a hotel if it gets really bad!!!!!
Moving on: have two new jobs, both freelance online. One as an EFL editor for an online EFL school based in London. The other as a ghost writer for a blog put out by an acupuncture doctor in Baltimore, US. Total hours per week (on my schedule) about 15/20. Both jobs a lot of fun, one detailed and focused, keeps me on my toes; and the other creative and a subject I am passionate about (oriental medicine). How did I find them??? Online!!!!
Question related to the above: those who still have a bank account in the US but now live in the UK - what address do you give the bank?
Socially: Life is still an adventure every day here. And I am still in love with Malta!!! So who is coming over to visit me?????
To end: Commiserations to all those who have had some trauma lately; congratulations to all those who have received good news; and to everyone of us brave enough to come on this site and think of/dream of/plan/embark on/endure/progress with/accomplish this grand adventure and new chapter in our lives, regardless of age, health or financial means. A huge pat on the back for everyone of us!! Merry Christmas - and where is the smiley face with the Santa Claus hat on???!!!! I leave you with Mr Bean.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0m_o2gxbsU
First, apologies for not having been on here in forever - and for not now trying to catch up with everybody's lives!!! It is impossible!!!! BUT, I think of you from time to time, always with fond thoughts, and I truly would love a short update (if that's possible!) on everything I have missed and am missing with my extended family here. So, please Trottytrue, who always seems to have a handle on things, can you post a brief summary for me???
Just a brief update from here in Malta. Weather has finally changed, just this week, now only about 16 by day, maybe a little less as this month goes on. Lows still nothing serious, and I haven't had to use any heat yet. Just as well, I only have one portable electric oil filled radiator! the Maltese don't do central heating in the main, so I am considering buying either a blowing fan heater or a halogen heater to put by my feet which ever room I am in. (Advice greatly appreciated!) No way can I heat the whole apartment - too big, rooms too big and floors all stone. May have to find a cheap Ryanair flight to somewhere and stay in a hotel if it gets really bad!!!!!
Moving on: have two new jobs, both freelance online. One as an EFL editor for an online EFL school based in London. The other as a ghost writer for a blog put out by an acupuncture doctor in Baltimore, US. Total hours per week (on my schedule) about 15/20. Both jobs a lot of fun, one detailed and focused, keeps me on my toes; and the other creative and a subject I am passionate about (oriental medicine). How did I find them??? Online!!!!
Question related to the above: those who still have a bank account in the US but now live in the UK - what address do you give the bank?
Socially: Life is still an adventure every day here. And I am still in love with Malta!!! So who is coming over to visit me?????
To end: Commiserations to all those who have had some trauma lately; congratulations to all those who have received good news; and to everyone of us brave enough to come on this site and think of/dream of/plan/embark on/endure/progress with/accomplish this grand adventure and new chapter in our lives, regardless of age, health or financial means. A huge pat on the back for everyone of us!! Merry Christmas - and where is the smiley face with the Santa Claus hat on???!!!! I leave you with Mr Bean.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0m_o2gxbsU
Last edited by aes1; Dec 12th 2010 at 9:53 am.
#9813
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
It blows my mind to think now that when I moved here from Canada, I just assumed the US had national health care - I thought every civilized country did. Guess I should have done more research!
#9814
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
I am not sure if you have noticed that British people live a lot in the past though, I have never seen so many programs about the second world war, rationing, victory gardening etc., it almost seems that people would like to return to that time in the history of this country. Is it just me that is thinking this way?
Besides friends and family, history is the thing I miss the most about Britain.
Dunrovin, I just think a stretched safety net is still better than none. My family have had two recent life-saving experiences with the NHS and my gran, who has Alzheimers, receives the most amazing home care. Yes, she has to pay towards it, but only what she can afford. Now to cap it all, my best friend's mum was diagnosed with cancer, got surgery in less than 2 weeks, and was pronounced all clear because they had caught it early enough and it hadn't spread. Of course there are problems and stretched resources - there are here too, as you know. But none of my family has money and they all received excellent care. That counts for a lot.
As far as why people are returning, a good friend of mine once said 'always make sure you are running towards something, not running away from something.' I think that's very good advice when thinking about a move.
#9815
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Oh that I know. I don't have any rose-colored specs on about England - especially not having visited regularly. I've lived in Canada, the UK and the US and they all had homeless people. The US just has more and for very different reasons. It's hard to fully understand unless you live here. America really is very different from any other Western nation.
It blows my mind to think now that when I moved here from Canada, I just assumed the US had national health care - I thought every civilized country did. Guess I should have done more research!
It blows my mind to think now that when I moved here from Canada, I just assumed the US had national health care - I thought every civilized country did. Guess I should have done more research!
Last edited by islandwoman120; Dec 12th 2010 at 2:27 pm.
#9816
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Hi Peigi -- No I am not counting ( Liar) just 70 days to go!!!! Thanks for thinking of me. Do you intend to buy Wee Mac, a small alarm clock? my Boy and Girl always had one, in their bed. Trying to send you a shot of them - sadly no more now, Bobby died,(Min German Schnauzer) and Rosie ( Poodle) went back to her Mother, when we left, and came back here. Take Care.
Love Don xx
Love Don xx
#9817
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
When I first moved to the USA - late 1980s - I had medical insurance thorugh my employers. And in the next ten years or so, whenever I changed employers, I was again insured within 3 months. Then I moved to Wisconsin for medical reasons, and life changed. There was less work, lower pay, and no employer based insurance coverage. Because I had a small child, I was able to receive state medical coverage up until my son was 19. Then I was out on my ear with no coverage. And it stayed that way until I left - sporadic coverage at best, sometimes unaffordable premiums. In northern Wisconsin and Duluth, MN there is a community clinic, which treats people based on a sliding scale. I had to resort to that for my own needs in the mid 2000s, and just before I left the USA in September, I went back to that area as I could guarantee medical care. I had been all the way down in Florida taking care of my 93 year old mother, and could not access the care there for myself, so ended up making a 2000 mile trip up north and staying for 2 months before leaving for the UK. How convoluted can life get. Now that there is a REAL ID law in the USA, you can only access services in the state in which you are a registered citizen, and fortunately I had retained my MN citizenship and drivers license. I have not yet used medical care here in the UK, but I will register with a medical clinic once I am settled in Frome. If you have not had to live in the USA, you have only an intellectual knowledge of the fear in most people, based on the lack of medical coverage. Anyone living in a country with socialised medical care has to live like I did, and like sally still does, to truly understand the precarious existence of many US citizens. Rosie
There is also the fear that no matter how much wealth you have ($ wise) it could all be lost in a heartbeat
I feel one could work very hard ,for many years, and have it all gobbled up in an instance .
I was talking to a local lady in my town ,she comes from an average family income .
Last year the doctor thought she had a spot /bleed on her brain ... she HAD insurance ....it did not cover the cost of the examinations etc ...she is debt $40,000 and must now go bankrupt .
#9818
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Oh that I know. I don't have any rose-colored specs on about England - especially not having visited regularly. I've lived in Canada, the UK and the US and they all had homeless people. The US just has more and for very different reasons. It's hard to fully understand unless you live here. America really is very different from any other Western nation.
It blows my mind to think now that when I moved here from Canada, I just assumed the US had national health care - I thought every civilized country did. Guess I should have done more research!
It blows my mind to think now that when I moved here from Canada, I just assumed the US had national health care - I thought every civilized country did. Guess I should have done more research!
It blows my mind that there are soup kitchens and food pantries for the poor (including the working poor). Most recipients do have accommodation, but they are hungry.
There are constant appeals for donations for canned and package food from churches, synagogues and charities; even our local town hall has a box to leave donated food items.
At this time of year requests go out to schools and at sporting events to take in some groceries to pass on to the food bank of New Jersey (and they presumably have community food banks in every State?). Even at the supermarket tills you can pay for food vouchers eg. $1, $3 or $5 denominations for the food bank:
http://www.njfoodbank.org/
http://www.nj.com/insidejersey/index...ger_in_ne.html (This is a shocking read - also see the first comment below the report!)
I'm not aware of any 'food banks' in the UK to give food to the poor. The only food donations I'm aware of are when it's the Harvest Festivals in the Autumn, where schools and churches pass on donated items to the elderly.
Last edited by Englishmum; Dec 12th 2010 at 2:59 pm.
#9819
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
It's not just the homeless people either.
It blows my mind that there are soup kitchens and food pantries for the poor (including the working poor). Most recipients do have accommodation, but they are hungry.
There are constant appeals for donations for canned and package food from churches, synagogues and charities; at this time of year requests go out to schools and at sporting events to take in some groceries to pass on to the food bank of New Jersey (and they presumably have community food banks in every State?). Even at the supermarket tills you can pay for food vouchers eg. $1, $3 or $5 denominations for the food bank:
http://www.njfoodbank.org/
http://www.nj.com/insidejersey/index...ger_in_ne.html
I'm not aware of any 'food banks' in the UK to give food to the poor. The only food donations I'm aware of are when it's the Harvest Festivals in the Autumn, where schools and churches pass on donated items to the elderly.
It blows my mind that there are soup kitchens and food pantries for the poor (including the working poor). Most recipients do have accommodation, but they are hungry.
There are constant appeals for donations for canned and package food from churches, synagogues and charities; at this time of year requests go out to schools and at sporting events to take in some groceries to pass on to the food bank of New Jersey (and they presumably have community food banks in every State?). Even at the supermarket tills you can pay for food vouchers eg. $1, $3 or $5 denominations for the food bank:
http://www.njfoodbank.org/
http://www.nj.com/insidejersey/index...ger_in_ne.html
I'm not aware of any 'food banks' in the UK to give food to the poor. The only food donations I'm aware of are when it's the Harvest Festivals in the Autumn, where schools and churches pass on donated items to the elderly.
#9821
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Ohhh Calle, thank you!!!! This is SO good to know and puts my mind at ease tremendously because if the pets don't go, I don't go - and you KNOW how much going home means to me
So glad you are back in your home country and I assume you are all loving it, including the pets. I would think the pets have a tiny adjustment to make, too. The sidewalk feels a bit different, more country lanes, different plants, trees and bushes - different food, too. That's another thing I have to learn about the quality of the food over there for pets - and the top names for pet food.
So glad you are back in your home country and I assume you are all loving it, including the pets. I would think the pets have a tiny adjustment to make, too. The sidewalk feels a bit different, more country lanes, different plants, trees and bushes - different food, too. That's another thing I have to learn about the quality of the food over there for pets - and the top names for pet food.
same for cats, good name food like Eukanuba and Iams and purina. My cat eats Purina 1 for dry food and felix pouches for wet.
#9822
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Fulwood, what country are you in?
The house I posted is not where I live now - far from it. I made the mistake of leaving Scotland and coming to the USA but I am going to get out of here as quickly as I can. Unfortunately, I will not be able to afford to live in such a home again.
Will look up Alsager and have a look.
The house I posted is not where I live now - far from it. I made the mistake of leaving Scotland and coming to the USA but I am going to get out of here as quickly as I can. Unfortunately, I will not be able to afford to live in such a home again.
Will look up Alsager and have a look.
#9823
Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
Hi Windsong, Yes they have an adjustment. The big thing mine missed were all the lizards. They love all the walk paths. They also love that they dont have to be drowned in flea meds like in Florida. The dog food is good. they have the major brands; Eukanuba, hills, purina...also James well beloved is really good. An inexpensive one that is surprisingly one of the best is Chappy. Vets recommend it. Its tried and true. My dogs love it. it has all they need and all food shops carry it. I mix it with fresh chicken and veg though. Just cause mine are spoilt and also because one is a little "heavy" . the vet says green beans or carrots are a good add in. No calories and plenty of nutrition.
same for cats, good name food like Eukanuba and Iams and purina. My cat eats Purina 1 for dry food and felix pouches for wet.
same for cats, good name food like Eukanuba and Iams and purina. My cat eats Purina 1 for dry food and felix pouches for wet.
#9824
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Another good dog food here is Burns. Suzy is pretty intolerant to a lot of foods (stuff like Bakers is the canine equivalent of Kentucky Fried Chicken, anyway), and although Wellbeloved was fine for her digestive system, she clearly didn't like it (believe it or not, she's not a picky eater, nor is she spoiled). I recently changed her to Burns Fish & Rice and she loves it, and it seems to be very kind on her GI system.
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Re: OVER 50's & 60's MOVING BACK TO THE UK.
When I first moved to the USA - late 1980s - I had medical insurance through my employers. And in the next ten years or so, whenever I changed employers, I was again insured within 3 months. Then I moved to Wisconsin for medical reasons, and life changed. There was less work, lower pay, and no employer based insurance coverage. Because I had a small child, I was able to receive state medical coverage up until my son was 19. Then I was out on my ear with no coverage. And it stayed that way until I left - sporadic coverage at best, sometimes unaffordable premiums. In northern Wisconsin and Duluth, MN there is a community clinic, which treats people based on a sliding scale. I had to resort to that for my own needs in the mid 2000s, and just before I left the USA in September, I went back to that area as I could guarantee medical care. I had been all the way down in Florida taking care of my 93 year old mother, and could not access the care there for myself, so ended up making a 2000 mile trip up north and staying for 2 months before leaving for the UK. How convoluted can life get. Now that there is a REAL ID law in the USA, you can only access services in the state in which you are a registered citizen, and fortunately I had retained my MN citizenship and drivers license. I have not yet used medical care here in the UK, but I will register with a medical clinic once I am settled in Frome. If you have not had to live in the USA, you have only an intellectual knowledge of the fear in most people, based on the lack of medical coverage. Anyone living in a country with socialised medical care has to live like I did, and like sally still does, to truly understand the precarious existence of many US citizens. Rosie
Id love to know why Americans are crazy about giving kids state medical insurance, It just blows my mind, Everything for the kids, what about the adults, they are the tax payers in this country, once those kids reach legal age they are out of luck, I just cant see why taking care of adults isnt as important as the kids, if adults are too sick to work they cant contribute.
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