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Over 40's Moving Back and Catching Up

Old May 22nd 2019, 7:15 pm
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Originally Posted by shelley748 View Post
I am still here lurking- still in Ontario- have not closed the door on going back at some point BUT it depends on what happens with the Brexit fiasco. Very concerned about lack of policing in the UK and "hate crime"- seems not enough police people and they spend more time looking on Social media for Hate crimes than going out in the real world stopping crime.
Where I live in Canada, we do not have the level of crime seen in the UK. It is a major concern to me. Other concerns- healthcare- again NHS overwhelmed- okay so Canada is also having health crisis but nothing like the levels of UK- so we wait and see what happens!
Got to say neither of the concerns you've mentioned are an issue where I am. I rarely lock my doors, pretty much never lock my car on my driveway, and the NHS has been nothing but amazing to us here. Pick your area wisely and you'll be fine.
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Old May 23rd 2019, 10:29 am
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Great to hear this, christmasoompa.
As Christmasoompa says, pick your area wisely. I agree, it will vary from area to area...and even within areas. Where I am, some parts of NHS care I've personally experienced have been fantastic, others less so. The system does need overhauling in a major way. But it's still wonderful to live in a place where the first question on seeking health care isn't "Do you have insurance?" Similarly, some police work has been brilliant—busting a 'county lines' drug ring, for example. But resources are too tight for proper community policing, as police commissioners nationwide have been lamenting.

But in the end, it seems to me, these issues shouldn't necessarily be the ones that make the decision. Once a would-be returner has answered the bottom line question: have I the financial resources to move to, and survive in, the UK? in the affirmative, it seems to me that the emotional, harder-to-measure issues should be seriously factored in. What were the reasons I missed the UK, and couldn't stop longing to go back? As I've said, for me they are mainly what you might call emotional: I missed the landscape, the way the seasons are, skyscape, culture, architecture, British sense of humour,newspapers and magazines, being surrounded by history (a very big one)....and now that I am back, I have an enormous sense of underlying wellbeing and contentment because I feel I am in the place where I belong. You can't put a price on that! The sad aspects—shocking decline of bio-diversity in flora & fauna since my childhood; problems in health care; problems in keeping up with crime; current government paralysis—are outweighed (for me) by what remains. For example, my continual wonder at the glories of cathedrals and villages and landscape and the changing sky, and the songs of the robin and blackbird, still to be heard, thank goodness; and the greenness....all of this is with me every day.

In the end, as has been said before on this thread, though it can't be said too often: an expat has to look at exactly why s/he misses home; and to give a weight, as much as possible, to things that can't easily be weighed or measured. How much does it matter to you —speaking generally, not just to Shelley—to be here, rather than wherever you are now? When you visit—and visiting before deciding is important it you haven't been back regularly—what is it you love? what don't you like? and which has more weight emotionally?

If you stay where you are and "wait and see what happens," might there come a time when one has waited too long and it's no longer possible to return, for whatever reason--age, health, expense, changed rules, property prices even higher and thus prohibitive?? And might one then bitterly regret it? Is there ever a "right time" if a person really longs to come back and doesn't feel like her/himself being in another country, however well-adjusted??

But. All that said, I'm lucky enough to be able to live in a nice area, which I am sure makes an enormous difference.
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Old May 24th 2019, 12:15 am
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between two worlds - nicely put thank you for the inspiration. So close I can almost feel it now, the wind, the sites, the sounds.
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Old May 24th 2019, 6:28 pm
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Thanks for the reply- very insightful. We are both going back in September for a visit to see elderly father for one. I don't actually feel like I belong in the UK or Canada, somewhere in the middle of the pond lol. We are content for now and once we are retired we intend to travel southwards and do some rving for the winters. Once we get too old to do that, I think that's when we will review matters once again.
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Old May 25th 2019, 12:33 pm
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A trip back—apart from personal visit, that's always useful to help work out how you think/feel. And post-retirement going southwards and rv-ing in the winters sounds like a good plan!
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