Other side of the coin...
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Having read some of the threads in the returning to the uk forum, I know some people have obviously had genuinely bad experiences in Aus through bad luck/no fault of there own, etc, and it is human nature to feel "BITTER" re any bad experience, indeed we may feel the same way ourselves in 2 years' time, but it seems to me that most are gripeing about things that are NOT really important issues, eg like missing Tescos/Aus phrases, which proves my point, would these things even bother these people if things had worked out? I suspect not....water off a ducks back, me thinks...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Anyway, personally, again we may feel differently in 2years time, but I think some of the "real" issues are if we don't give it a go and STAY in the UK are:-
* Do I feel safe walking round to my local shops after dark?
* Would I want to bring up children in the aggressive environment that is the UK/what opportunities are there for them with no apprenterships, etc, anymore, ie for the person of average intelliegence, other than working in a warehouse?
* Will I have a pension when I retire?
* Do I really want to spend the rest of my life in a country where for 7 months of the year it is too cold/wet/dark to really do anything but watch tv or be in the pub?
etc, etc....Think about it...
Burt
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Re: Other side of the coin...
Jamie,
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
If you end up coming to Australia and stay a reasonable amount of time I can absolutely nailed-on guarantee you that you will feel homesick from time to time. You might well be surprised about what you miss as well. It can be strange what creeps up on you.
For a lot of people on this forum homesickness is an ever-present problem. Its a lot easier to give little examples about things you miss than to masterfully sum up what it is to be homesick. People might often mention stuff like football, tesco's, mushy peas or whatever but these are just the small parts of a very big total. No-one really moves around the world because they miss the clothes at NEXT but they will move to feel familiar,settled, known, belonging etc. Mentioning this kind of stuff helps people get this off their chests so sniping at people for missing baked beans or whatever really misses the point.
That whole "whingeing pom" thing gets very old very quickly when you live here too. If you thing the Aussies don't complain bitterly about stuff...oh my...
I'd say emigrate by all means, have the experience and it might work out for you. Hope it does. Don't let your enthusiasm for it drive you to shout down other people though.
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Yes, very amuzing, nice one. However, we DO enjoy very much being outdoors, walking, etc, (as well as watching tv and going to the pub!)hence our fustration at the "Great British weather." Personally, I find it much more ENJOYABLE/PLEASANT being outside walking, etc, with the sun on my back, rather than the rain/drizzle/fog/cold etc, as the winters in the UK seem to last forever and do get me down. Don't you think!?
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I wish you every success in australia and i hope you never have to eat your words ,because a fair few do including me it isnt the land of milk and honey here in aussie and if it doesnt work for you personally you are infor a expensive and very very miserable time indeed .Good luck
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Yes, very amuzing, nice one. However, we DO enjoy very much being outdoors, walking, etc, (as well as watching tv and going to the pub!)hence our fustration at the "Great British weather." Personally, I find it much more ENJOYABLE/PLEASANT being outside walking, etc, with the sun on my back, rather than the rain/drizzle/fog/cold etc, as the winters in the UK seem to last forever and do get me down. Don't you think!?
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Yes, very amuzing, nice one. However, we DO enjoy very much being outdoors, walking, etc, (as well as watching tv and going to the pub!)hence our fustration at the "Great British weather." Personally, I find it much more ENJOYABLE/PLEASANT being outside walking, etc, with the sun on my back, rather than the rain/drizzle/fog/cold etc, as the winters in the UK seem to last forever and do get me down. Don't you think!?
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I'm sorry, but I sometimes don't have much patience with people who whinge about the weather in Britain because I don't think it's as bad as people like to make out, and it never stopped us from enjoying the great outdoors when we lived in Britain. Call me wierd but I when I lived close to the equator in Africa I actually used to miss the UK winter. I had a big map of the Lake District on my wall and would gaze at it imagining the green hills shrouded in damp mist.... aaah happy days.
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We will be on the Sun Coast, and I accept it WILL be HOT for a few months during the summer, but I think you have maybe forgot just how LONG the British winter drags on for...must admit it gets me down.
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Yes, very amuzing, nice one. However, we DO enjoy very much being outdoors, walking, etc, (as well as watching tv and going to the pub!)hence our fustration at the "Great British weather." Personally, I find it much more ENJOYABLE/PLEASANT being outside walking, etc, with the sun on my back, rather than the rain/drizzle/fog/cold etc, as the winters in the UK seem to last forever and do get me down. Don't you think!?
Lastly, when you do arrive Australia, I hope it works out well for you. However, that first time you go into a supermarket and you don't recognise a single brand name on the shelves, and it takes forever to get around the store because you don't know what all the items are, you may pause for a minute and wish you were in Tescos again.
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I love the long, light evenings in UK summer. Long, dark evenings on the Sunny Coast would get me down. What is it, sunset by 6.30pm in the height of summer? I suppose you don't get the 3.30pm darkness tho, (although even in winter it's dark by 5pm). I guess you get used to it.
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Bugger me you have that right, Norman.
Never had "cabin fever" in the UK.....
Had it in the NE. Its so cold you can die in it, if exposed in the depths of winter and it goes on for almost half the f&%kin year........
"the other side of the coin".....in sunny California, you get utterly sick of 90-100F constantly, no rain, brown hills, being cooked. In November.....
The distractions of English life to handle the weather there????.....its a fair deal.
Never had "cabin fever" in the UK.....
Had it in the NE. Its so cold you can die in it, if exposed in the depths of winter and it goes on for almost half the f&%kin year........
"the other side of the coin".....in sunny California, you get utterly sick of 90-100F constantly, no rain, brown hills, being cooked. In November.....
The distractions of English life to handle the weather there????.....its a fair deal.