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Old Dec 17th 2006, 10:26 pm
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[QUOTE=Rosie Cheeks]
Originally Posted by LouiseD

That is extremely kind of you.



My gorgeous six year old said today "our team won"

"Won what" I said

"The Cricket" he said

"How exciting" I said


My Aussie Husband came home.

"Ha ha, England lost the cricket"

There was me thinking that they had won.
Some chance - That's it now Rosie. He's an Aussie.
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Some chance - That's it now Rosie. He's an Aussie.
I know, he insisted on having a meat pie for dinner, talked about it non stop today. It was very cute. But he did refuse sauce when it was offered, so at least something can be rescued from the wreckage!
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Old Dec 17th 2006, 10:34 pm
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I know, he insisted on having a meat pie for dinner, talked about it non stop today. It was very cute. But he did refuse sauce when it was offered, so at least something can be rescued from the wreckage!
What supporting Oz in the Cricket but refusing sauce on a pie? The lads got an identity crisis bless him

He's going to have to take the ultimate test now - ask him to say lime and then you'll know for sure
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What supporting Oz in the Cricket but refusing sauce on a pie? The lads got an identity crisis bless him

He's going to have to take the ultimate test now - ask him to say lime and then you'll know for sure
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(quote)Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?(unquote)

Yeah. What happened to yours, Lane?
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Old Dec 17th 2006, 11:33 pm
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(quote)Drugs. What happened to the British 'spirit' ? What happened to the British regard for other's rights? What happened to the famed British sense of morality, decency, fair-play, altruism, etc?(unquote)

Yeah. What happened to yours, Lane?
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Originally Posted by Lane
The issue when I commenced posting in this thread the refusal by some to accept responsibility for their presence in Australia.

The responses to my posts since then have noticably avoided addressing this issue.

People instead have attempted to divert the discussion in a variety of predictable directions.

Mostly, they have adopted an antagonistic attitude whenever the issue of personal responsibility has been raised.

No one doubts that many from the UK are unhappy in Australia.

What is utter nonsense is the suggestion floated as 'fact' that these UK migrants were 'tricked' into coming to Australia.

If someone is 'tricked', it follows as day the night that someone tricked them and it has been claimed the Australian government and/or its agents tricked 'poor innocent UK citizens'.

Rubbish.

When those same unhappy UK migrants accept that they came here because they wanted to, then they're on their way to maturity.

You seek my sympathy on account of your homesickness, then you have it.

You want my agreement that you were tricked into coming here, then you're not going to get it. Because it's clear that if you can get yourself online now for the purpose of enjoying each other's misery, then you could have got yourself online while you were still back in the UK, at which time you could have found out everything you needed to know: the population of every single burg in this country, employment figures, wages info, medical info, climatic variations, etc. etc.

I'm sick of asking you, so ask yourselves: Why didn't you do that? Were you afraid it would take the bloom off your impending flight to Australia?

Then you have no-one to blame (seeing 'blame's' your thing) but yourselves.

Too bad it you don't like the truth. The truth's not going away just because of you.
Lane, one of your first posts on this site was very kind and thoughtful, so can you please rethink the type of stuff you are posting in this thread because to be quite honest I am getting abit sick and fed up of the "them and us" mentality that seems to be cropping up more and more. The people who use this forum are british expats who are using it to gain support and advice from each other .... its called the "Moving Back to the UK" forum, What don't you understand about that? EVERYONE has different experiences. We don't walk in each other shoes so we hardly have cause to criticize each others decisions. There are people on this site who are happy with their move abroad and wouldn't go back to the UK ever. There are people who have moved abroad and found it not all that they dreamed but they know they can make it work. There are others who have moved abroad and for different reasons are thinking about or going to move back. Each of these people have different stories and experiences to share and we as a group of expats should be learning from all these experiences, not belittling each other.
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Old Dec 18th 2006, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Lane
The issue when I commenced posting in this thread the refusal by some to accept responsibility for their presence in Australia.

The responses to my posts since then have noticably avoided addressing this issue.

People instead have attempted to divert the discussion in a variety of predictable directions.

Mostly, they have adopted an antagonistic attitude whenever the issue of personal responsibility has been raised.

No one doubts that many from the UK are unhappy in Australia.

What is utter nonsense is the suggestion floated as 'fact' that these UK migrants were 'tricked' into coming to Australia.

If someone is 'tricked', it follows as day the night that someone tricked them and it has been claimed the Australian government and/or its agents tricked 'poor innocent UK citizens'.

Rubbish.

When those same unhappy UK migrants accept that they came here because they wanted to, then they're on their way to maturity.

You seek my sympathy on account of your homesickness, then you have it.

You want my agreement that you were tricked into coming here, then you're not going to get it. Because it's clear that if you can get yourself online now for the purpose of enjoying each other's misery, then you could have got yourself online while you were still back in the UK, at which time you could have found out everything you needed to know: the population of every single burg in this country, employment figures, wages info, medical info, climatic variations, etc. etc.

I'm sick of asking you, so ask yourselves: Why didn't you do that? Were you afraid it would take the bloom off your impending flight to Australia?

Then you have no-one to blame (seeing 'blame's' your thing) but yourselves.

Too bad it you don't like the truth. The truth's not going away just because of you.
could the person who asked for sypathy from this deranged and deluded indiviual put up there hand ....no ?no hands thought so Lane no one has asked for your sypathy or your agreement on being tricked as I said before learn to read and understand ,I believe at school you would have got an F for comprehension . the point about the advertising is that the product does not match the description if it where tea bags you'd get a refund bue seeing as Australia is perfect no refundf given(thats sarcasism by the way).as for the truth .truth is subjective the only truth is maths as I said before anything else is coloured by the person so what you see as every one blaming aust we see we are just discussing the merits of a point now go take a nap you'll feel better

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Old Dec 18th 2006, 12:36 pm
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could the person who asked for sypathy from this deranged and deluded indiviual put up there hand ....no ?no hands thought so Lane no one has asked for your sypathy or your agreement on being tricked as I said before learn to read and understand ,I believe at school you would have got an F for comprehension . the point about the advertising is that the product does not match the description if it where tea bags you'd get a refund bue seeing as Australia is perfect no refundf given(thats sarcasism by the way).as for the truth .truth is subjective the only truth is maths as I said before anything else is coloured by the person so what you see as every one blaming aust we see we are just discussing the merits of a point now go take a nap you'll feel better
I don't think a 10 year nap would make this person feel better toandfro. There seem to be some very deep emotions and pent up anger lurking there which would scare me if I know him personally. Not the sort of person you'd socialise with is he? Can you imagine the conversation in the pub? "Oh Hi there Lane, I bought a box of tea bags today but when I opened the box, there was dust inside". "Well you should have researched that box properly. It's Your fault that what you thought was in the box, wasnt. You only have yourself to blame. Learn to accept your mistakes Gosh can you imagine being married to that, you'd need more bloody prozac than they could manufacture
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I don't think a 10 year nap would make this person feel better toandfro. There seem to be some very deep emotions and pent up anger lurking there which would scare me if I know him personally. Not the sort of person you'd socialise with is he? Can you imagine the conversation in the pub? "Oh Hi there Lane, I bought a box of tea bags today but when I opened the box, there was dust inside". "Well you should have researched that box properly. It's Your fault that what you thought was in the box, wasnt. You only have yourself to blame. Learn to accept your mistakes Gosh can you imagine being married to that, you'd need more bloody prozac than they could manufacture
you have just counjered up all sortss of images in my brain that I don't need I'm not sure if lane is he or she but either way I'd hazard a guess there childless I hope so because the child would need therapy for life and the after life maybe he /she is in withdrawal ???
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I don't think a 10 year nap would make this person feel better toandfro. There seem to be some very deep emotions and pent up anger lurking there which would scare me if I know him personally. Not the sort of person you'd socialise with is he? Can you imagine the conversation in the pub? "Oh Hi there Lane, I bought a box of tea bags today but when I opened the box, there was dust inside". "Well you should have researched that box properly. It's Your fault that what you thought was in the box, wasnt. You only have yourself to blame. Learn to accept your mistakes Gosh can you imagine being married to that, you'd need more bloody prozac than they could manufacture
I think I understand what they are trying to say just he/she has gone about it all wrong. Its a bit like getting into debt and blaming the credit card company or getting fat and blaming Maccas there has to be a certain amount of responsibility we have to take for our own actions. We all took the decision to emigrate, for some it works out and for others it doesn't. There are some here that blame Australia for all their woes but the realists among us all know that for some it just aint happening sometimes due to circumstances beyond their control and that going home is the only way forward.
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you have just counjered up all sortss of images in my brain that I don't need I'm not sure if lane is he or she but either way I'd hazard a guess there childless I hope so because the child would need therapy for life and the after life maybe he /she is in withdrawal ???
Post 249 makes mention of a husband.

The chances are that they are a female.
But the posts, in my opinion, seem rather masculine in content.
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Originally Posted by Rosie Cheeks
Post 249 makes mention of a husband.

The chances are that they are a female.
But the posts, in my opinion, seem rather masculine in content.
Haven't kept up with this post but You are going home for christmas. I hope a wonderful time with your family have a save trip and enjoy!
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Haven't kept up with this post but You are going home for christmas. I hope a wonderful time with your family have a save trip and enjoy!
Thank you so much, you have a good memory! Hope you have a brilliant Christmas.
I have postponed my trip home now, we have decided to all go together next year (I was going on my own with the kids).
I am all of a tizzy, cause I have sort of let the whole planning for Christmas pass me by because I was going to the UK, and I couldn't have cared less about what was happening here during the holidays!

Next year there is a conference in London that we can attend, and we will make a long holiday of it. I would like to stay there for six months to a year, if my oldest wasn't in school. I could do it easily. But I could put him in a school there for a year, whether that is a good idea or not, I don't know. Still need to research that one. I moved schools a few times in the UK and I hated it, so I don't want to drag him around like that.
We will do some renovations to this house to make it more appealing, and then perhaps sell it or just rent it out when we are away.

I of course would like to move back permanently, but I think a trip for a substantial amount of time is a good idea. This will allow me to see if it is what I really want.

When I first moved to Australia I should have put a time limit on it, and left the way clear to go home whenever I wanted to. But I didn't look upon it as a permanent move at the time anyway, I just didn't have a plan to try it out and leave if it wasn't what I wanted.
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Thank you so much, you have a good memory! Hope you have a brilliant Christmas.
I have postponed my trip home now, we have decided to all go together next year (I was going on my own with the kids).
I am all of a tizzy, cause I have sort of let the whole planning for Christmas pass me by because I was going to the UK, and I couldn't have cared less about what was happening here during the holidays!

Next year there is a conference in London that we can attend, and we will make a long holiday of it. I would like to stay there for six months to a year, if my oldest wasn't in school. I could do it easily. But I could put him in a school there for a year, whether that is a good idea or not, I don't know. Still need to research that one. I moved schools a few times in the UK and I hated it, so I don't want to drag him around like that.
We will do some renovations to this house to make it more appealing, and then perhaps sell it or just rent it out when we are away.

I of course would like to move back permanently, but I think a trip for a substantial amount of time is a good idea. This will allow me to see if it is what I really want.

When I first moved to Australia I should have put a time limit on it, and left the way clear to go home whenever I wanted to. But I didn't look upon it as a permanent move at the time anyway, I just didn't have a plan to try it out and leave if it wasn't what I wanted.
well I must say i'd love a confrence in London .do you find it mind boggling the options and what to do for the best as opposed to what feels best brain v's heart . All the what if's and not only the basic concequences like money and a place to live but will the kids get on will they suffer from different cariculums,will this that or the other work and roundand round it goes until you go mad .anyway all the best good luck with Xmas in a rush if it makes you feel a little better I leave for work today and come back late Xmas eve so I have got to leave it all to the better half good job got her pressie already
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