Originally Posted by meljor

Hello Lane,
I have just read your previous posts, the one where you write very emotively about how you never felt you belonged here and your parents were to proud to admit they made a mistake and go home.

I read them because I couldn't for the life of me understand why someone would suddenly come on here and spurt such nasty vile nonsense to people who have tried it and haven't liked it, for whatever reason. Some are lucky enough to be going back and some have a lot more heartache before they can do this. Whatever their situations this forum is often the only place they can express their pain and frustration.

I for one have been grateful to find this forum because I thought I was going mad for not being overjoyed now that I supposedly have made all my dreams a reality and the humour and empathy I have found here have helped me through some tough times.

So if you don't like what you read then take your own advice and bugger off.

Originally Posted by Lane

You know what's going to happen, don't you, after you return to UK ?

There will be a little flurry of activity and attention, and then, once your immediate penny-opera is over, people are going to ask you --- ' So what was the problem? Why did you come back?'

And you'll begin your well-practised litany of complaints, honed here in these forums: ' Oh, it was too hot -- we missed the family -- the kids didn't like it -- it didn't feel right -- we didn't like the food -- we didn't like the people -- we didn't like the beaches -- we didn't like the Australian-ess of it -- we didn't like the way they sliced the bread -- we didn't like their accent -- we didn't like the colloquialisms -- we were sick of bar-b-ques -- we hated the flies -- etc. etc.

And people will study you, behind their smiles.

Some of them will say to your face: ' Well, you knew what it would be like before you left and you said you couldn't wait for those beaches and bar-b-ques and all that space and the chance to buy a bigger place and to get a new start in life.'

Others will just talk behind you back. They'll say: ' They couldn't fit in here, either.'

But what will really surprise you will be the way you'll begin, sooner or later, to praise Australia, once you're back in UK.

Some scone-faced woman in the street will say; ' Oh I wouldn't want to go Australia -- you couldn't pay me to go! I've heard it's horrible. I'd much rather stay here in mindless ignorance, living on welfare in a run-down council flat surrounded by unemployed, out of control hooligans, all living together in endless drizzle and cold, no prospects, no future other than what I have right this minute.'

And at that point, you'll remember why you applied to go to Australia in the first place ! And then to your own surprise, you'll begin defending Australia and the life you had here.

You'll realise you had an insular, isolationist attitude when you lived in Aus. You'll remember wanting it to be both different to and the same as the UK !

You'll remember wanting to be both excited by the future --- at the same time you were refusing to let go of the past.

You'll remember wanting to both fit-in --- and be regarded as 'different'.

And you'll remember lots more, as well. Big skies, sunshine, what it felt like to be living on the other side of the globe.

You'll remember wanting to expand your horizons -- yet being unwilling to relinquish your grasp on the safe and familiar.

And you'll realise you didn't really give it a chance, not really.

Originally Posted by iamthecreaturefromuranus

Whats your problem?. Lost somebody who you used to blame for your enforced life in Australia, and thought you would come on here and have a go at people who made the decision to come, a decision you were denied?. You sound like you are lashing out for some reason, when not so long ago you yourself were wishing you could return to the UK.

Originally Posted by LouiseD

There are some really disturbed folk lurking around here arent there? Shame really when you see what sadness hides behind the cloak of aggression. Maybe counselling would help him.

Originally Posted by Lane

I

See the anger?

All that anger.

Where did it originate, one wonders?

Anger caused by Australia?

Hardly possible. After all, you must have possessed an atlas at some time in your life prior to applying to move to Australia. Did you bother to actually find out a little about Australia before you made the decision to move here?

Why not?

Did you think if you played wise-monkey with hands over eyes and ears, that Australia would become your perfect, individual Utopia?

Did you choose not to find out the truth about Australia before applying so energetically to live there?

Why?

Would you apply to marry someone, sight unseen ------ and then get angry with them for not living up to your unrealistic expectation ? If you did, that would have been silly of you, too.

Now you indulge in all this directionless fury, as if you can hurt the lump of rock that comprises Australia. Silly again.

There are only a few options open to those who don't want to live in a country. Up to you to investigate yours and get on with it, instead of festering.

I think the truth is, in many instances, that those who profess here to be unhappy in Australia were unhappy before they came here and know they don't want to go back to UK either --- for the very same reasons they left UK in the first place.

So they're just generally angry and disappointed. And they want to spread it around.

Originally Posted by Lane

I

See the anger?

All that anger.

Where did it originate, one wonders?

Anger caused by Australia?

Hardly possible. After all, you must have possessed an atlas at some time in your life prior to applying to move to Australia. Did you bother to actually find out a little about Australia before you made the decision to move here?

Why not?

Did you think if you played wise-monkey with hands over eyes and ears, that Australia would become your perfect, individual Utopia?

Did you choose not to find out the truth about Australia before applying so energetically to live there?

Why?

Would you apply to marry someone, sight unseen ------ and then get angry with them for not living up to your unrealistic expectation ? If you did, that would have been silly of you, too.

Now you indulge in all this directionless fury, as if you can hurt the lump of rock that comprises Australia. Silly again.

There are only a few options open to those who don't want to live in a country. Up to you to investigate yours and get on with it, instead of festering.

I think the truth is, in many instances, that those who profess here to be unhappy in Australia were unhappy before they came here and know they don't want to go back to UK either --- for the very same reasons they left UK in the first place.

So they're just generally angry and disappointed. And they want to spread it around.

Originally Posted by northernbird

Its not often that I will come out and bat for the other side but I am sorry its not always that easy to just up and go home. People do lots of research before coming to Australia but sometimes the reality of living is not the same as the countless holidays a lot of people take, for a start you earn in dollars and not the nice pounds you bring on hols.

I don't often agree with the things that are posted in here, some of them just have me cringing but the reality of going back isn't always that easy.

Feel free to send Karma btw

Originally Posted by Lane

People who don't want to listen, don't.

People who'd rather argue than work at their own happiness continue to argue.

But to put it in perspective: If you had a job that was going nowhere and you were offered another that you believed would be an improvement, then you might accept the second.

Then you discover that the new job isn't all you hoped it would be.

What do you do then?

Do you contact your original employer and say you want your job back?

Or do you instead spend your time in a forum, complaining on and on and on about that second job?

What would people suggest to you?

They'd say ' Ok. You didn't end up liking the second job. Some might, but you didn't. But why are you here, telling me over and over and over how much you disliked that second job? What is repeatedly telling me about it supposed to achieve? Why aren't you off getting another job? Why haven't you returned to your original employer? Why aren't you getting back to your life and future? The second job sounds Ok to me, to be honest. But you didn't like it. Ok. Big deal. We all have our ups and downs. But you need to get moving, get on with things and get over it. What do you want --- compensation or a plaque dedicated to you or something because you made a poor decision? '

Originally Posted by louise4

is that you northernbird

Originally Posted by Lane

I

See the anger?

All that anger.

Where did it originate, one wonders?

Anger caused by Australia?

Hardly possible. After all, you must have possessed an atlas at some time in your life prior to applying to move to Australia. Did you bother to actually find out a little about Australia before you made the decision to move here?

Why not?

Did you think if you played wise-monkey with hands over eyes and ears, that Australia would become your perfect, individual Utopia?

Did you choose not to find out the truth about Australia before applying so energetically to live there?

Why?

Would you apply to marry someone, sight unseen ------ and then get angry with them for not living up to your unrealistic expectation ? If you did, that would have been silly of you, too.

Now you indulge in all this directionless fury, as if you can hurt the lump of rock that comprises Australia. Silly again.

There are only a few options open to those who don't want to live in a country. Up to you to investigate yours and get on with it, instead of festering.

I think the truth is, in many instances, that those who profess here to be unhappy in Australia were unhappy before they came here and know they don't want to go back to UK either --- for the very same reasons they left UK in the first place.

So they're just generally angry and disappointed. And they want to spread it around.

Originally Posted by northernbird

yep its me, I have to go for a lay down now