kiwi_child

Top Post Exile! Karma coming your way

kiwi_child

Only an idiot would give up their birthright. Those who harp on about this probably couldn't get approval to live in another country for one reason or another. Typical 'ocker' comment that has been driven by australian media agenda in recent times

kiwi_child

Disagree. People dont know what a place is like until they have spent a few years living in it. Why should anyone give up their right to live in any country as well as uk or oz etc, just because some idiots in the australian media try to push that agenda?

Australia has some ok things going for it, but so does uk. Just because you choose to live in a country does not mean you must cry out from the rooftops how wonderful every bloody thing about it is, how critics are hypocrites. If you want that sort of carry on move to nth korea, because as I understand it Australia is still part of the western democracy.

toandfro

Originally Posted by Westralia
How many returning are putting their money where their mouth is and revoking their Aus-UK dual citizenship/PR get-out-of-jail-free-when-the-shit-hits-the-fan-back-in-old-blighty card?

Or are the majority planning to be hypocritical ingrates?

agree with KC the get out of the shit free card is the UK passport not the AUst. one and when I go home my Aust passport will lapse into obscurity that should make you happy westralia .

kiwi_child

I KNEW IT I KNEW IT! A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE TRUE PERTH CULTURE!

No doubt you got your opinon on dual citizenship from the likes of Howard Sattler & co. Howard sattler (for those who don't know) is a well known radio personality in perth and a strong advocate of doing away with dual citizenship for migrants to oz.

Nothing changes in a hurry Westralia, thats why WA is known as the Wait Awhile state!

kiwi_child

Well..Please explain :P Welfare payments are funded by the Federal government (which for the last 10 yrs has been the Liberals [equivalent of UK Tory party]).

So are you seriously suggesting that welfare recipents are voting JH back into power every federal election?

People who use terms like scroungers and dole bludgers show themselves to have their 'thinking' done for them by the media and not by their own critical and objective analysis.

We have unemployment simply because the economic rationalist theory once put into practice, along with globalisation, drives down the competitiveness of many companies to the point they pay crap wages and conditions, go offshore, or move into a different line.

We have many jobs that many australians cannot do because for years the government failed to provide adequate training for apprentices etc and that is one reason why the 457 visa is used so much.

Further to get training here is hard enough, to live on a student allowance, impossible for many (and there are not enough jobs for all students to supplement their allowance), and at the end , there are still those who have qualifications but cannot obtain f/t work.

So now we have the case of the young single dole recipent who is say 22, and cannot afford to study, cannot get a job due to lack of skills/quals, too many applying, or it pays so little they may as well stay on the dole ( or is insecure esp if its casual work) and hope they get offered something better.

TopCat3

Only just...

kiwi_child

Cheers Wendy, Glad Adelaide is agreeing with you all. Have to admit it's one of my favourite places in OZ

kiwi_child

LOL Touche... Good Point

northernbird

What I was saying was that I find it hypocrital that the aussie haters take australian citizenship. I wasn't suggesting for a minute that people shouldn't have dual citizenship.

LouiseD

I understand what you are saying here but the thing is though NB, it goes on all over the world. People get citizenship for other countries for many reasons, not necessarily because they love that country. You don't need to look further than the UK for that. And the country doesn't lose anything by having these people as citizens - after all they pay taxes and contribute to the economy etc.

arkon

This just shows how narrow minded you are. Some people get citizenship because they need to for the familys sake. Like us. I hate the place but am still getting citizenship. So slag off all you like, I'm not going to be in a situation in 20 years time when my boy might choose to come and live hear and have a family, and we cant come and stay for extended periods. You never know what the future might hold and having dual citizenship keeps all our cards on the table.

I know an elderly couple in this exact predicament, Their family is mostly in Aus, they are British and unable to get anything other than a 4 year visa, which has to be re-validated every 6 months by leaving the country and getting the passport stamped. As soon as they are too old and have health issues the will no longer even qualify for that visa and they are desperate to be here to be with the family. Even you must be able to see the potential benefit to getting citizenship and the problems you will face if you were in the same boat as that old couple.

toandfro

I don't recall anyone saying they hated australia or australians just examples of the worst they'd come across that enhanced their desire to go home however if you feel agrieved post away

Lord Pom Percy

But why on earth would your boy want to live in OZ when he grows if its such a dreadful place as you say it is with no prospects for him , l mean you are'nt taking out Canadian or American citizenship incase he wants to live there one day

toandfro

do your kids at twenty think the same as you or what you say I am in exactly this situation we returned for the sake of our children who are Australian born we will return to UK now they are settled and visit ..