morpeth

Well my experience wasn't with the public hospital.

Again I haven't been there for a while, just my personal opinion I would avoid if at all possible getting medical care in Indonesia or from Indonesian doctor. Of course there will be some doctors who might be exceptions. For example I would have no confidence in their ability to properly sterilize equipment, nor vet hospital staff for communicable diseases.

But I am not in health sector nor done any serious analysis of the issues- and it seems you have a good experience which is great.

Davita

Laugh all you like over my oxymorn...'open surgery'.

The experience of my belly being sliced open twice in one year has left me very scared n' scarred....

morpeth

Sorry you went through twice.

I would think Bali an excellent place to recuperate ? I haven't been in over 20 years, but away for the busy tourists parts seemed like a very special place. What part are you in ?

Downton Gabby

Hello everyone,

I just came upon this thread and it's freaking me out a bit. I read about half the posts.

Please clarify all this if possible, because I should be moving over there in late summer/early fall.

Will I, a dual US and Irish citizen, self-employed, be eligible for NHS upon arrival and establishing my intent to live there or not? I would be entering on my Irish passport.

Thanks in advance.

BritInParis

Irish citizens have a special status in the UK distinct from the rest of the EU/EEA that won't be affected by Brexit. You'll be considered 'settled' from the moment you arrive if your intention is to ordinarily reside in the UK.

Downton Gabby

So I'll be entitled to use the NHS?

Also, how do I prove my intention to ordinarily reside?

DaveLovesDee

You would have to show that the UK is where you intend to make your primary residence. Which can be difficult.

You'll very likely get an interview called the Habitual Residence Test. You'll get asked a lot of questions on various things, such as whether you have come to the UK for NHS treatment.

Quick question, which country are you coming in from?


BritInParis. Is it the Irish nationality, or being resident in Ireland that counts regarding the CTA agreement?

Downton Gabby

It can't be that difficult, can it? I imagine people arrive every day who will be living there.

Are you saying I will have to go through this test right after arriving in the UK?Like at the airport? I was under the impression that as an Irish citizen I would simply arrive and come through and go live my life.

FYI, I am not coming there to get treatment...I'm coming to live. But I want to know before coming that I'll be covered by NHS if need be.

DaveLovesDee

No, the test isn't done at the airport. You'll get this test if you are applying for things like unemployment or housing benefits. It'll be the organisation administering whatever you're applying for that gives the test, if you have one. Even if you don't pass it, it only means you won't get whatever benefit it is for around 3 months.

Are you coming from Ireland or the US?

Downton Gabby

Possibly from Ireland, but likely from US. Why do you ask? Is there an advantage coming from either one?

BritInParis

It doesn't take much. Just set up home and you'll be fine.

The HRT only applies if you are applying for certain benefits like Jobseekers' Allowance. It's being an Irish citizen that's the important thing. You'll be treated as a British citizen for all practical purposes.

NHS entitlement is based on residence. Providing you are ordinarily resident in the UK then all treatment is free. As long as you have an Irish passport and a UK address you shouldn't have a problem. When you register at your local GP you'll be given a NHS number.

BritInParis

It won't make a difference.

DaveLovesDee

Thanks.

Perth

BIP, how about the reverse? Will a British citizen be able to move permanently to Ireland post Brexit do you think?

BritInParis

The Common Travel Area is a reciprocal arrangement in that regard so yes.