Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
#256
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
[QUOTE=SeaninOzalready;5728011] although i go back every three months (sometimes 2) for work and holiday and last time I saw no change.
Bloody hell Sean you have'nt really left. Do you need an assistant in your job?
Bloody hell Sean you have'nt really left. Do you need an assistant in your job?
#257
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
#258
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Thanks Hudd..more for us to think about and has given me a bit of hope. Hubby has MBA, (degrees in IT & Geography I think) is quite senior and well-paid here, with a background in GIS he's now essentially Services Delivery and Innovations directed. Yes, they've been healthy times over the past 4 yrs or so, but now we are all on the verge of a big world economic downturn so that's the real worry. Obviously companies are going to trim staff.
I think ages are pretty similar for exams in Oz but obviously with the 6 month difference in start of year (UK-Sept, Oz- Jan) there's some decisions about whether to go up or down a year.
I think ages are pretty similar for exams in Oz but obviously with the 6 month difference in start of year (UK-Sept, Oz- Jan) there's some decisions about whether to go up or down a year.
Hi
I not sure where you are looking to move back to in the UK, but the south of England is still pretty good for work. Being over 50 is not a problem today in the UK. The job market is much more flexible and I have noticed that in the company I work for are many new staff are 50+(i.e Engineers/technical staff).
I am finding it hard to recruit due to the fact in the area I live in Oxfordshire unemployment is 0.9%. I returned to the UK at 39 from Canada and had a £50K+ job within 3 weeks.
My sons did not have any problem with UK schooling, but where young then 11 & 12 years old. At 15 my eldest son will do his GSCE's, but most are 16 when they do the first set exams. How different is UK schooling to Australia?
A'Levels are more important, so you children will have enough time to get qualifications for college or uni entrance.
Whats you husbands master degree in? Have you checked out www.jobsite.co.uk to see what work is available
BBC report 27th Dec 2007
Employment and immigration
The Halifax said house price growth in Scotland and south-east England reflected a "robust employment market and record levels of net international migration".
Its report noted that employment in Scotland had risen by 125,000 during the last five years, while in 2006 immigration increased the population by 22,000.
Strong economic conditions, highlighted by high employment levels, have boosted housing demand and driven up prices
Martin Ellis
Halifax Estate Agents
It added that property had been "relatively affordable in Scotland" which provided "a springboard for further significant house price growth".
Meanwhile, in south-east England, unemployment remained low - with 27 areas having unemployment rates below 1%.
Martin Ellis, chief economist for Halifax Estate Agents, said: "Strong economic conditions, highlighted by high employment levels, have boosted housing demand and driven up prices.
I not sure where you are looking to move back to in the UK, but the south of England is still pretty good for work. Being over 50 is not a problem today in the UK. The job market is much more flexible and I have noticed that in the company I work for are many new staff are 50+(i.e Engineers/technical staff).
I am finding it hard to recruit due to the fact in the area I live in Oxfordshire unemployment is 0.9%. I returned to the UK at 39 from Canada and had a £50K+ job within 3 weeks.
My sons did not have any problem with UK schooling, but where young then 11 & 12 years old. At 15 my eldest son will do his GSCE's, but most are 16 when they do the first set exams. How different is UK schooling to Australia?
A'Levels are more important, so you children will have enough time to get qualifications for college or uni entrance.
Whats you husbands master degree in? Have you checked out www.jobsite.co.uk to see what work is available
BBC report 27th Dec 2007
Employment and immigration
The Halifax said house price growth in Scotland and south-east England reflected a "robust employment market and record levels of net international migration".
Its report noted that employment in Scotland had risen by 125,000 during the last five years, while in 2006 immigration increased the population by 22,000.
Strong economic conditions, highlighted by high employment levels, have boosted housing demand and driven up prices
Martin Ellis
Halifax Estate Agents
It added that property had been "relatively affordable in Scotland" which provided "a springboard for further significant house price growth".
Meanwhile, in south-east England, unemployment remained low - with 27 areas having unemployment rates below 1%.
Martin Ellis, chief economist for Halifax Estate Agents, said: "Strong economic conditions, highlighted by high employment levels, have boosted housing demand and driven up prices.
#259
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Now let's get this sorted once and for all. When have I bemoaned Perth and where have I posted anything about the lack of transport in Perth. What has got you on my case? Is it because I said I want to go home now? For heavens sake, I have been here near on 11 years, our son is at uni, life has changed a great deal for us, it's time for me to move on and do something different. BTW there was no internet when we got our visa, so the information at hand was only from books and papers. And, before you ask, yes we did come here before migrating, 3 years before to be exact. Now please tell me, what is your problem?
Last edited by St.Georges Girl; Jan 3rd 2008 at 12:47 am.
#260
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
[QUOTE=St.Georges Girl;5717818]
I had an idea it might be you, but had no idea you had gone home. So how's life you lucky thing you? I am green with envy.
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Fabulous....best decision, been back since August, all the worrying about is it right thing to do, and it sure as hell is, I have a new lease of life and loving it, same boat as many others, husband would have rather stayed but he gave in as I would have come back anyway, my Dad had a heart attack after getting back from visiting us in May but wheels were in motion before then, it just really hit home to me how unimportant, the sun, beach, pool and a bigger house really were............
Hope you plans are going ok and catch up soon
Teresa x
I had an idea it might be you, but had no idea you had gone home. So how's life you lucky thing you? I am green with envy.
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Fabulous....best decision, been back since August, all the worrying about is it right thing to do, and it sure as hell is, I have a new lease of life and loving it, same boat as many others, husband would have rather stayed but he gave in as I would have come back anyway, my Dad had a heart attack after getting back from visiting us in May but wheels were in motion before then, it just really hit home to me how unimportant, the sun, beach, pool and a bigger house really were............
Hope you plans are going ok and catch up soon
Teresa x
#261
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Fabulous....best decision, been back since August, all the worrying about is it right thing to do, and it sure as hell is, I have a new lease of life and loving it, same boat as many others, husband would have rather stayed but he gave in as I would have come back anyway, my Dad had a heart attack after getting back from visiting us in May but wheels were in motion before then, it just really hit home to me how unimportant, the sun, beach, pool and a bigger house really were............
Hope you plans are going ok and catch up soon
Teresa x
#262
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Don't be sad St George's Girl, I've decided not to be sad...but to be active. Instead of just endless pining and 'in my head' comparisons between the two countries, I'm going to start actually making plans and getting info on education, housing, jobs....all the stuff I need to make the move.
Hard...as I really do think everything Oz has is brilliant, except the lack of history, pommy-banter and the ability to express a different opinion and still be (good) friends....oh, and country lanes, blackberries and robins.
I know exactly what you mean about 'wasted life'. I really feel that other than producing 3 brilliant, wonderful and much cherished children, that my life has disapeared in day-to-day trivialities. Maybe I'd have felt the same in the UK though....oh no....more indecision coming on!!!
Hard...as I really do think everything Oz has is brilliant, except the lack of history, pommy-banter and the ability to express a different opinion and still be (good) friends....oh, and country lanes, blackberries and robins.
I know exactly what you mean about 'wasted life'. I really feel that other than producing 3 brilliant, wonderful and much cherished children, that my life has disapeared in day-to-day trivialities. Maybe I'd have felt the same in the UK though....oh no....more indecision coming on!!!
It's good to hear from you. Happy new year. I feel my life is so wasted being here and I know what you are saying about that new lease of life. I felt like that when I was back just for a visit, but as soon as I got back here, I felt so lonely again and drifted back into a moronic state. Sad isn't it?
#263
Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Don't be sad St George's Girl, I've decided not to be sad...but to be active. Instead of just endless pining and 'in my head' comparisons between the two countries, I'm going to start actually making plans and getting info on education, housing, jobs....all the stuff I need to make the move.
Hard...as I really do think everything Oz has is brilliant, except the lack of history, pommy-banter and the ability to express a different opinion and still be (good) friends....oh, and country lanes, blackberries and robins.
I know exactly what you mean about 'wasted life'. I really feel that other than producing 3 brilliant, wonderful and much cherished children, that my life has disapeared in day-to-day trivialities. Maybe I'd have felt the same in the UK though....oh no....more indecision coming on!!!
Hard...as I really do think everything Oz has is brilliant, except the lack of history, pommy-banter and the ability to express a different opinion and still be (good) friends....oh, and country lanes, blackberries and robins.
I know exactly what you mean about 'wasted life'. I really feel that other than producing 3 brilliant, wonderful and much cherished children, that my life has disapeared in day-to-day trivialities. Maybe I'd have felt the same in the UK though....oh no....more indecision coming on!!!
BTW, have you been on this site?
http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-in--England.rsp
Last edited by St.Georges Girl; Jan 4th 2008 at 4:04 am.
#264
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
This is our major stumbling block about going home. We hear so many terrible stories about crime, muggings, chavs,binge drinking fashion, drugs (I know that's here but it seems more prolific in the UK) inflicted upon kids in the UK.
People coming out here reckon their kids are not safe back in the UK, that they're liable to be pricked by infected needles, smothered in dog poo or tread on broken glass if they so much as go to the local play park. They also reckon their kids don't play outside because of the danger from weirdo's, or it's too cold or dark, or it's raining every day.
We left the UK years ago when our kids were so little, before they had a chance to experience any form of social life as such back there. I have little knowledge of the UK education system, however, recent arrivals reckon the kids in primary schools in the UK are stressed out and worried about exams and tests all of the time.
Can somebody back there, who has perhaps lived both lives (in Uk and Aus) give me their viewpoint about this?
People coming out here reckon their kids are not safe back in the UK, that they're liable to be pricked by infected needles, smothered in dog poo or tread on broken glass if they so much as go to the local play park. They also reckon their kids don't play outside because of the danger from weirdo's, or it's too cold or dark, or it's raining every day.
We left the UK years ago when our kids were so little, before they had a chance to experience any form of social life as such back there. I have little knowledge of the UK education system, however, recent arrivals reckon the kids in primary schools in the UK are stressed out and worried about exams and tests all of the time.
Can somebody back there, who has perhaps lived both lives (in Uk and Aus) give me their viewpoint about this?
#265
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*Sigh* hopefully we will be rich if we ever do move back ;-)
#266
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we lived in germany for 20 years and in spain for 3 and never came back once.we are back 4 years in the uk now due to problems with bullying in the school she was at ( I cant wait to go back to spain for good and never touch uk soil again. within 2 weeks my van had been stolen from the drive way, driven a mile, then torched by yobs who Im told phoned the firebobbys and sat around drinking cider and clapping while they put it out. the police had it towed away at a cost to me of 120 quid and nothing was done about it.Ive been out about twice ,both times I was threatened with murder! yes murder! for nothing .so that was that. read the news . the lastweek their has been about 4 teenagers murdered in the uk. kids now buy stab proof vests and shirts to wear at SCHOOL!!!!! THE UK IS A NIGHTMARE BEYOND BELIEF. OF SPY CAMS. POLICE STATE. SECRET POLICE. POTENTIAL ID CARDS LACK OF REAL JOBS. HI COSTS AND A DEBT RIDDEN PHILISTINE CULTURE WHICH IS SAD BEYOND BELIEF.
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
we lived in germany for 20 years and in spain for 3 and never came back once.we are back 4 years in the uk now due to problems with bullying in the school she was at ( I cant wait to go back to spain for good and never touch uk soil again. within 2 weeks my van had been stolen from the drive way, driven a mile, then torched by yobs who Im told phoned the firebobbys and sat around drinking cider and clapping while they put it out. the police had it towed away at a cost to me of 120 quid and nothing was done about it.Ive been out about twice ,both times I was threatened with murder! yes murder! for nothing .so that was that. read the news . the lastweek their has been about 4 teenagers murdered in the uk. kids now buy stab proof vests and shirts to wear at SCHOOL!!!!! THE UK IS A NIGHTMARE BEYOND BELIEF. OF SPY CAMS. POLICE STATE. SECRET POLICE. POTENTIAL ID CARDS LACK OF REAL JOBS. HI COSTS AND A DEBT RIDDEN PHILISTINE CULTURE WHICH IS SAD BEYOND BELIEF.
#269
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
welcom to the UK, its not all bad you know, if you a few million, you can have big gates built to keep the riff raff out.
we lived in germany for 20 years and in spain for 3 and never came back once.we are back 4 years in the uk now due to problems with bullying in the school she was at ( I cant wait to go back to spain for good and never touch uk soil again. within 2 weeks my van had been stolen from the drive way, driven a mile, then torched by yobs who Im told phoned the firebobbys and sat around drinking cider and clapping while they put it out. the police had it towed away at a cost to me of 120 quid and nothing was done about it.Ive been out about twice ,both times I was threatened with murder! yes murder! for nothing .so that was that. read the news . the lastweek their has been about 4 teenagers murdered in the uk. kids now buy stab proof vests and shirts to wear at SCHOOL!!!!! THE UK IS A NIGHTMARE BEYOND BELIEF. OF SPY CAMS. POLICE STATE. SECRET POLICE. POTENTIAL ID CARDS LACK OF REAL JOBS. HI COSTS AND A DEBT RIDDEN PHILISTINE CULTURE WHICH IS SAD BEYOND BELIEF.
#270
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Re: Do you worry about raising your kids in the UK?
Oh God Tracey, you sound just like I was, then I sat back and let life go on around me so as not to be 'selfish', not to rock the boat. I thought I was doing the right thing, but I was wrong. I was giving up my happiness and good health, which has done my family no favours whatsoever in the long term. My heart was never here and although I have tried, God knows how I've tried, I just don't belong here.
You are thinking as I used to think, but soon your children will be grown and have no interest in the pool, it's only a material thing anyway. You can take them to the pools back home. You can take them to Europe on holiday. Our son used to love those short breaks we took in France and the holidays we had in resorts in Spain, Greece etc., but most of all, he loved being with his extended family.
I fully understand what you are saying and how you are thinking. My OH doesn't want to go home particularly and it's taken years for him to finally say he will, but I know he is worried about the work situation and all the upheaval again after 10½ years, so I don't speak about it much at all. I was even planning how I would go it alone at one point.
Just remember, that children are happy if their parents are happy. A pool, sun, sea and sand are nothing compared to that.
You are thinking as I used to think, but soon your children will be grown and have no interest in the pool, it's only a material thing anyway. You can take them to the pools back home. You can take them to Europe on holiday. Our son used to love those short breaks we took in France and the holidays we had in resorts in Spain, Greece etc., but most of all, he loved being with his extended family.
I fully understand what you are saying and how you are thinking. My OH doesn't want to go home particularly and it's taken years for him to finally say he will, but I know he is worried about the work situation and all the upheaval again after 10½ years, so I don't speak about it much at all. I was even planning how I would go it alone at one point.
Just remember, that children are happy if their parents are happy. A pool, sun, sea and sand are nothing compared to that.
Good luck to all out there.....just go with your heart.......you have to be happy as well....lifes to short.
Jackie...Happy New Year to everyone....