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Tirytory Sep 17th 2014 12:56 am

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Some people are just glass half empty and when you're that down, logic and reasoning don't come into play so they will be unable to see any fact from any other viewpoint so it is pointless arguing. So I just feel sorry for them...imagine to having to wake up every day and be that miserable.

Even at my worst homesickness which thankfully seems to be easing, I didn't feel the need to kick Canada and could still see it for what it was..... I'm just I'm glad I get to be me and not him/her.

not2old Sep 17th 2014 1:20 am

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Originally Posted by formula (Post 11408271)

Of course, if the US got it's act together and gave free healthcare to their elderly who have paid taxes for years and to those out of work, then that would solve a lot of problems for their citizens.

My view is Mr & Mrs L know the pro's & cons of living in the US. Its not about the elderly or healthcare issues & comparisons. Mrs L listed her annoyances living in smallville UK. Its a bit of the whinging POM syndrome [back home this, that & the other, its not the same here] comparison, looking at what infuriates one with the new surroundings or culture .... nothing more, nothing less IMO.

They have choices, they made a choice, they are in the UK 2 years in & hopefully with each passing day are enjoying living in it. We cannot IMO fix the issues Mrs L has in her OP, or say to them 'if you don't like it, then shove off back to the US'. After spending most of her life in the US, could it be that Mrs L is somewhat disappointed with her UK lifestyle, possibly home sick - who knows & its none of our business. I admire the OP for her post, even though I think its either a rant or a whinge & trust she feels better for doing it.

Of course living in the US, healthcare charges, healthcare insurance, cable TV, internet, council/property tax, car/house insurance are likely more costly in the US compared to the average in the UK. As for welfare & unemployment, even folks on food stamps would annoy me. Living on the East coast of the US, extreme weather conditions, extreme heat & cold, power outages, snowed in, floods .... the list is endless

BristolUK Sep 17th 2014 1:29 am

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*It seems to take forever for the police to respond to calls, especially to non-999 calls. And why do we, the public, have to pay to call the police for disturbance of the peace or ASBO situations?

Originally Posted by Editha (Post 11407694)
I find this point quite confusing. If it isn't a 999 call, why is it important how long it takes the police to answer? Was this based on actual experience? The average time for police to respond to a 999 call in Devon is 11 minutes. When I rang my community police officer for advice about a parking matter it took him nearly a week to get back to me. It really didn't matter.

If it is a disturbance of the peace, then a 999 call would be justified. I simply don't know what you mean by an ASBO situation.

I find that odd and confusing too. I can't speak for all of North America but our phone bill includes a fee for "provision" of 911 services. :blink:

Not to mention the charges to patient for an ambulance. :eek:

NiHao Sep 17th 2014 2:02 am

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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11408250)
I just don't understand why people who are happy with their lives in the UK have to kick someone who is clearly down. Is it really "correcting factual inaccuracies" or taking offence at someone presenting their reasons for being unhappy in the UK?

Thank you dunroving and others on here who have been able to show some compassion for Mrs & Mrs London1947

Heaven forbid any of the rest of you should ever find yourselves, elderly, far from family and friends, on limited income with limited choices, depressed and feeling you have made a wrong decision and that you may not be able to reverse it.

Good grief, so an unhappy, homesick American expat living in the UK vents on an expats message board a rather sweeping statement about what she does not like about living in the UK. If you can't see that its coming from a person who is depressed and in pain then you are clearly lacking in imagination and empathy. By all means give a different view and point out factual errors but that can be done kindly without suggesting she and her husband have no right to express what they are feeling or to even be on this message board.

Maybe instead of bashing and suggesting the OP is trolling you should just thank your lucky stars that you aren't in such a dark place (emotionally) yourselves.

It is hard to see the bright side or give a balanced view when you are deeply unhappy and feeling trapped, those of us who read this forum regularly have been able to see London1947's increasing unhappiness and depression from his posts, please just be gentle to someone who is already clearly hurting. I have seen so much kindness, compassion and patience from strangers to strangers on BE, this thread could do with some more of that right now.

Mallory Sep 17th 2014 2:22 am

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 11407893)
:nod: I'm not getting the relevance of the previous wives to this thread. I understand he's given us background info but surely only the history with the current wife is required (and less confusing).

I think we've all known of expats who, for whatever reason, don't settle, and end up hating every small thing regardless of whether it's real or imaginary. It must be very hard living day to day when you appear that unhappy, especially if you can't do anything about moving for either financial or health reasons. Nine times out of ten they can't offload to family, friends or neighbours in case of upset, that's why BE exists, to offload in an anonymous manner.

:goodpost:

dunroving Sep 17th 2014 3:34 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 11408269)
Depends on the responder I guess. In my case I know only too well what its like to be unhappy somewhere, so I merely wanted to correct the factual inaccuracies - as people have done with me thousands of times on here over the years when I have whinged about things I dislike about Aus.

Absolutely, I agree with correcting factual inaccuracies, but there are ways and ways, and at times it is clearly used as an excuse for giving someone a kicking even though it's obvious they are miserable.

Pollyana Sep 17th 2014 3:39 am

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Originally Posted by NiHao (Post 11408367)

Maybe instead of bashing and suggesting the OP is trolling you should just thank your lucky stars that you aren't in such a dark place (emotionally) yourselves.

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Have you actually read the posts where some of us have said we can see why the OP is unhappy, but we would like to actually correct their facts where necessary? There are loads of posters on here like me who are not 'bashing' anyone, far from it, we can understand the feelings. Bur trying to get sympathy by quoting facts that just aren't true isn't going to help!
No-one is saying the OP is a troll either, they've made loads of posts, they are obviously posting genuinely.

chris955 Sep 17th 2014 3:39 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 11408269)
Depends on the responder I guess. In my case I know only too well what its like to be unhappy somewhere, so I merely wanted to correct the factual inaccuracies - as people have done with me thousands of times on here over the years when I have whinged about things I dislike about Aus.

Indeed, having been on the receiving end of vitriol from the OP and been accused of lying all I wish to do is point out the ridiculous inaccuracies in most of the comments made. Because of their attitude in the past they will get neither understanding nor empathy from me. If that offends others that is unfortunate.

dunroving Sep 17th 2014 3:50 am

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Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 11408448)
Have you actually read the posts where some of us have said we can see why the OP is unhappy, but we would like to actually correct their facts where necessary? There are loads of posters on here like me who are not 'bashing' anyone, far from it, we can understand the feelings. Bur trying to get sympathy by quoting facts that just aren't true isn't going to help!
No-one is saying the OP is a troll either, they've made loads of posts, they are obviously posting genuinely.

Actually, Petrichor suggested that the OP was trolling in Post 99, and one poster has changed their name to self-appointed "Troll hunter" since one or two people have come to the defence of London1947.

Anyways, personally I disagree with a lot of what MrsLondon1947 thinks of the UK (I think my TV licence is possibly the best value for money I get every year, for example). I just don't feel the need to correct inaccuracies when I can see they are just the exaggerated perceptions of someone who has been replanted into a totally alien environment and appears to be thoroughly miserable. Been there, done that and just grateful I no longer have to eat the pies...

robin1234 Sep 17th 2014 3:54 am

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Originally Posted by BEVS (Post 11407708)
MrsLondon1947 (the 3rd) is a born & bred city girl so Dawlish ,as a place to actually live in , may have come as something of a shock.

I know it's not exactly Zabars, but that pie and pasty shop in Dawlish is pretty nice though. You can a nice piece of bread pudding there, too.

Giantaxe Sep 17th 2014 3:57 am

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Originally Posted by robin1234 (Post 11408463)
I know it's not exactly Zabars, but that pie and pasty shop in Dawlish is pretty nice though. You can a nice piece of bread pudding there, too.

I'm intrigued to know the rationale for the OP choosing Dawlish in the first place. Upper West Side to a British seaside resort is certainly a huge step, especially in later life.

Giantaxe Sep 17th 2014 4:01 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11408316)
I find that odd and confusing too. I can't speak for all of North America but our phone bill includes a fee for "provision" of 911 services. :blink

Indeed. I pay $3.39 a month on my cell phone bill for 911 services.

dunroving Sep 17th 2014 4:02 am

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Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11408468)
I'm intrigued to know the rationale for the OP choosing Dawlish in the first place. Upper West Side to a British seaside resort is certainly a huge step, especially in later life.

I'm curious to know the story too. It would probably help some people who are returning ... let's try to get some insight and learn rather than berate.

When I lived in Tennessee I used to ride 100's of miles way out where the people still have tails. I almost bought a plot of land in the country, in a beautiful hollow about 20 miles from anywhere. The idea was to build a house. Nice and peaceful, I thought it would be idyllic. On reflection, I would probably have gone mad within months from the solitude and thoughts that if an axe murderer paid me a visit, no-one would know for days ... maybe the OP thought a quiet, quaint village would be the perfect life.

robin1234 Sep 17th 2014 4:12 am

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Originally Posted by Giantaxe (Post 11408468)
I'm intrigued to know the rationale for the OP choosing Dawlish in the first place. Upper West Side to a British seaside resort is certainly a huge step, especially in later life.

Well I just said "Zabars" as an illustrative flourish. I do not know if they lived in the Upper West Side, or some other city milieu.

Giantaxe Sep 17th 2014 4:13 am

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Originally Posted by dunroving (Post 11408473)
When I lived in Tennessee I used to ride 100's of miles way out where the people still have tails. I almost bought a plot of land in the country, in a beautiful hollow about 20 miles from anywhere. The idea was to build a house. Nice and peaceful, I thought it would be idyllic. On reflection, I would probably have gone mad within months from the solitude and thoughts that if an axe murderer paid me a visit, no-one would know for days ... maybe the OP thought a quiet, quaint village would be the perfect life.

The problem is that seaside resorts are anything but quiet. You get inundated by tourists for some of the year and the population in general tends to be more itinerant them is typical. Not my idea of a place to live, but we are all different of course.


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