Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Hope I'm wrong in your case but worth checking.
By the way I went into the CIMD branch across the road from the HSBC branch you went into today to enquire about FD rates (not for MM2H purposes) and was quoted 3.1% for 1 year and it would be less for longer terms, so if you cannot get better than that at HSBC you have the walk across the road option .... and you may be able to get something higher for MM2H amounts.
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
By the way I went into the CIMD branch across the road from the HSBC branch you went into today to enquire about FD rates (not for MM2H purposes) and was quoted 3.1% for 1 year and it would be less for longer terms, so if you cannot get better than that at HSBC you have the walk across the road option .... and you may be able to get something higher for MM2H amounts.
https://www.cimbclicks.com.my/clicks...iewfdrates.htm
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
That is strange, as the official CIMB rates for 1 year is 3.7%, increasing for longer terms. I believe you can even start a new online with these terms.
https://www.cimbclicks.com.my/clicks...iewfdrates.htm
https://www.cimbclicks.com.my/clicks...iewfdrates.htm
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
With (maybe) the exception of MM2H FD's, the Amanah (Islamic FD) option may be worth exploring as well.
The return is called profit rate there but apart from that there is no difference.
Sometimes the profit rates are higher than the interest rates, like when I placed an Islamic FD with CIMB earlier this year at a monthly paid out profit rate of 4.15% p.a.
Another option to look into is MBSB, the Malasian building society.
But I don't know if they are accepted for MM2H FD' and the deposits made with them are not Gov't guaranteed.
The return is called profit rate there but apart from that there is no difference.
Sometimes the profit rates are higher than the interest rates, like when I placed an Islamic FD with CIMB earlier this year at a monthly paid out profit rate of 4.15% p.a.
Another option to look into is MBSB, the Malasian building society.
But I don't know if they are accepted for MM2H FD' and the deposits made with them are not Gov't guaranteed.
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Hi Ssoomro ....you wrote..."DaVita may provide much more authoritative response as she lives there full time" Thanks for thinking I'm some hot sexy 'she' when reality is I'm a grouchy old guy....recently turned 80....
Hi Fenella...rather than diverting this thread if you, or anyone else, has questions about Bali or Indonesia I'd be happy to attempt answers on the sister forum BE (Indonesia).
Hi Fenella...rather than diverting this thread if you, or anyone else, has questions about Bali or Indonesia I'd be happy to attempt answers on the sister forum BE (Indonesia).
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Well all went well have visa and bank account set up went very smoothly. One tiny bit of advise....I got a local sim as soon as I arrived in KL and used this number in all the info you need to set up a bank account. I will not be returning to KL until Dec/Jan So as this was a Pay as you go sim the number would lapse...so I extended its life by paying a small amount to last for 6 months. Yvonne seemed to indicated that all hell would break loose if you had to change number with the bank. This may not be true but not prepared to mess up at this final stage! Anyway good news got VISA!!!!!
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Well all went well have visa and bank account set up went very smoothly. One tiny bit of advise....I got a local sim as soon as I arrived in KL and used this number in all the info you need to set up a bank account. I will not be returning to KL until Dec/Jan So as this was a Pay as you go sim the number would lapse...so I extended its life by paying a small amount to last for 6 months. Yvonne seemed to indicated that all hell would break loose if you had to change number with the bank. This may not be true but not prepared to mess up at this final stage! Anyway good news got VISA!!!!!
with HSBC (and presumeably with other banks) every transaction that occurs on your credit or debit card you get a no charge SMS asking you to contact HSBC if you did not authorise that particular transaction. Quite nifty in fraud in fraud protection, and the SMS occurs no matter how small the amount, but might explain why the banks are so sensitive about not having a valid mobile number.
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Well all went well have visa and bank account set up went very smoothly. One tiny bit of advise....I got a local sim as soon as I arrived in KL and used this number in all the info you need to set up a bank account. I will not be returning to KL until Dec/Jan So as this was a Pay as you go sim the number would lapse...so I extended its life by paying a small amount to last for 6 months. Yvonne seemed to indicated that all hell would break loose if you had to change number with the bank. This may not be true but not prepared to mess up at this final stage! Anyway good news got VISA!!!!!
I am also with HSBC but cannot remember giving a local number for my application although I had one bought at the airport for my visa visit. I am not yet living in MY so I am not using my accounts for transactions so its immaterial but for sure when I do settle I will get a permanent local number so I will want it adding (or amending).
"All hell will break loose at the bank" - I am sure its my money and they are just the custodians at my behest so I hope they try that one on me.
I am bound to them with the FD but any other money I have with them I can transfer as I like, watch any attitude change then.
I hope you have a great life in MY
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Goodness me....Macsta I only meant it may be an inconvenience to you further down the line. Helpful I thought.
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
Being fair HSBC on my visit were most helpful even when I turned up with a bundle of cash that they couldn't accept they guided me to the best solution at hand.
Any advice is always most gratefully received.
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VISA cheaper than Transferwise
We've discussed transferwise earlier in this tread, and I just transferred some funds from USD to MYR monday at rate 4.2655 (- minues their fees and wire costs). Then I checked visa's exchange rate and found it to be 4.2704200812 if your card doesn't have any foreign currency fees (which mine doesn't) or other fees.
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
So I'm wondering if I need to move some funds over, I can over a period of a a couple of weeks withdraw up to US$1000 every day and deposit into HSBC in Malaysia. Are cash deposits looked at with suspicion in Malaysia? Or will it be ok to deposit say 10K or more ringgit at a branch?
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
So I'm wondering if I need to move some funds over, I can over a period of a a couple of weeks withdraw up to US$1000 every day and deposit into HSBC in Malaysia. Are cash deposits looked at with suspicion in Malaysia? Or will it be ok to deposit say 10K or more ringgit at a branch?
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Re: VISA cheaper than Transferwise
We've discussed transferwise earlier in this tread, and I just transferred some funds from USD to MYR monday at rate 4.2655 (- minues their fees and wire costs). Then I checked visa's exchange rate and found it to be 4.2704200812 if your card doesn't have any foreign currency fees (which mine doesn't) or other fees.
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
So I'm wondering if I need to move some funds over, I can over a period of a a couple of weeks withdraw up to US$1000 every day and deposit into HSBC in Malaysia. Are cash deposits looked at with suspicion in Malaysia? Or will it be ok to deposit say 10K or more ringgit at a branch?
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
So I'm wondering if I need to move some funds over, I can over a period of a a couple of weeks withdraw up to US$1000 every day and deposit into HSBC in Malaysia. Are cash deposits looked at with suspicion in Malaysia? Or will it be ok to deposit say 10K or more ringgit at a branch?
any amount above RM3000 is reported. But in the same way if you transferred RM100,000 using Transferwise (it would be reported) you would be able to show the source of the funds so while it would pose a red flag as you can explain the source of the funds you would be ok.
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Re: Opening a Bank Account in Kuala Lumpur
With (maybe) the exception of MM2H FD's, the Amanah (Islamic FD) option may be worth exploring as well.
The return is called profit rate there but apart from that there is no difference.
Sometimes the profit rates are higher than the interest rates, like when I placed an Islamic FD with CIMB earlier this year at a monthly paid out profit rate of 4.15% p.a.
Another option to look into is MBSB, the Malasian building society.
But I don't know if they are accepted for MM2H FD' and the deposits made with them are not Gov't guaranteed.
The return is called profit rate there but apart from that there is no difference.
Sometimes the profit rates are higher than the interest rates, like when I placed an Islamic FD with CIMB earlier this year at a monthly paid out profit rate of 4.15% p.a.
Another option to look into is MBSB, the Malasian building society.
But I don't know if they are accepted for MM2H FD' and the deposits made with them are not Gov't guaranteed.
my investigations of rates and returns has found a difference between the better Islamic rate (profit) and the normal FD rate. The difference is that a normal FD is covered by the government guarantee on bank deposits, while the Islamic FD is not covered as it is considered an investment product (profit). Not necessarily a big deal as long as one understands that the additional return from profit does include additional risk (might be small risk)
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Re: VISA cheaper than Transferwise
We've discussed transferwise earlier in this tread, and I just transferred some funds from USD to MYR monday at rate 4.2655 (- minues their fees and wire costs). Then I checked visa's exchange rate and found it to be 4.2704200812 if your card doesn't have any foreign currency fees (which mine doesn't) or other fees.
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
So instead of using transferwise it is even cheaper to just use ATM (provided you have a card with no fees).
By the way, in 90 to 95 % of the days (in earlier times 100 %) the Master Card exchange rate is better than Visa. Nowadays the gap is most of the time quite small, two years before it was huuuuuuuuuuuuge. That is also the reason why they throw a no fees visa card to you on every corner and one from Master Card is quite hard to get.
I had a EUR to MYR transfer on Tuesday (9000 €), Mastercard was 5,084471,
Visa was 5,079196 MYR and Transferwise gave me 5,080536 including their usual 0,7% fee.
So not too much difference, all good options, all way better than having the banks involved.
Last edited by eCdD; Sep 1st 2017 at 5:52 am.
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Re: VISA cheaper than Transferwise
Sure, this can happen every day. Especially when the MYR is gaining or losing heavily from one day to the next, the CC cards companies sometimes follow not so fast. These are the days when I run with my Master Card to the next ATM
By the way, in 90 to 95 % of the days (in earlier times 100 %) the Master Card exchange rate is better than Visa. Nowadays the gap is most of the time quite small, two years before it was huuuuuuuuuuuuge. That is also the reason why they throw a no fees visa card to you on every corner and one from Master Card is quite hard to get.
I had a EUR to MYR transfer on Tuesday (9000 €), Mastercard was 5,084471,
Visa was 5,079196 MYR and Transferwise gave me 5,080536 including their usual 0,7% fee.
So not too much difference, all good options, all way better than having the banks involved.
By the way, in 90 to 95 % of the days (in earlier times 100 %) the Master Card exchange rate is better than Visa. Nowadays the gap is most of the time quite small, two years before it was huuuuuuuuuuuuge. That is also the reason why they throw a no fees visa card to you on every corner and one from Master Card is quite hard to get.
I had a EUR to MYR transfer on Tuesday (9000 €), Mastercard was 5,084471,
Visa was 5,079196 MYR and Transferwise gave me 5,080536 including their usual 0,7% fee.
So not too much difference, all good options, all way better than having the banks involved.