The Irish Language

Old Jan 25th 2015, 1:38 pm
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Is the Irish language compulsory in Irish schools?

If a teenager arrives from another EU state is he required to study the Irish language?

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Old Jan 25th 2015, 5:02 pm
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Is the Irish language compulsory in Irish schools?

If a teenager arrives from another EU state is he required to study the Irish language?
It's compulsory, with some scope for exemption in individual cases. School system rules are set by the Department of Education:
Irish Exemption - Department of Education and Skills

The National University of Ireland has its own rules, if such teenager aspires to attend one of its component institutions:
Entry Requirements | National University of Ireland

It is likely that someone arriving in Ireland as a teenager would meet the requirements for exemption. However, especially if it is desired to settle in Ireland for the long term, become an Irish citizen in due course, etc, would it be a better choice to learn the Irish language? Even if not under obligation.
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I have just moved to Ireland with two teenagers.

They are exempt from learning Irish in school and wont need it for University either.
We did vast research on this before entering the system here and have had it confirmed by the school that my children are now attending.

However what you will find is that if your teens want to go on to do their Leaving Certificate ( A levels equiv) and want to go onto university, because they dont have to do to Irish they should replace it with another language because a language is required or at the very least preferred.

One of my teens is 17 and is a class with children her age and even though her classmates have been studying Irish all their lives, many can hardly speak it and struggle to achieve the desired levels. The most academic students we have met wont be pursuing it either after school.

Good luck and dont worry, my kids love it here and we have lived in several countries over the last few years.
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There was a time when you required a pass in Irish for any government job. Is that still the case ?
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I have asked relatives in Ireland with school age children to translate a phrase into Irish - they couldn't!
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There was a time when you required a pass in Irish for any government job. Is that still the case ?
They got extra marks in promotion competitions, done away with last year.
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I have asked relatives in Ireland with school age children to translate a phrase into Irish - they couldn't!
It just depends where they live. You'd find more in Gaeltacht regions:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaeltacht
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There was a time when you required a pass in Irish for any government job. Is that still the case ?
That hasn't been the case for over 40 years.

However, since Irish is still the first official language of Ireland, and most services should be available in the Irish language, the Government reserves about 5% of vacancies in the civil service for fluent Irish-speakers.
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Is the Irish language compulsory in Irish schools?

If a teenager arrives from another EU state is he required to study the Irish language?
If the pupil was educated outside of Ireland until s/he was eleven years of age, then education (and examination) in the Irish language will not be obligatory

Department of Education circular is available here (pdf)
http://www.education.ie/en/Circulars...s/ppc10_94.pdf
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