Irish citizenship for British citizens
Aug 31st 2009, 2:35 pm
#61
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
Now as for as for Londonuck's point ......... I am so not going to go there. 
That's a whole political area that I won't touch with a 10ft pole. Caused way too much grief here in NI and I'm just not a political person.
And yes please, I think I took this thread way too far off. Apologies for that.
That's a whole political area that I won't touch with a 10ft pole. Caused way too much grief here in NI and I'm just not a political person.And yes please, I think I took this thread way too far off. Apologies for that.
Get a room you two
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Aug 31st 2009, 4:23 pm
#62
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
You are bad, very very bad. I may have to punish you lol! 
Aug 31st 2009, 8:17 pm
#63
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
It seems I pushed your button, you pushed mine 
Having been stared at in the street, tutted at and verbally abused as one half of an interracial relationship, the BNP reference really stung .. anyway that's a whole other thread I think lol.
Ok, in expressing my simplistic opinion about being irish, and the frustration with people who express lots of views and opinions on Ireland (particularly my own fair Northern Ireland) or who say they are irish but have never been here, I accept that there probably wasn't sufficient involvement or information from me previously which might give a more true picture of my thoughts or feeling on the issue.
I actually suspect our views are not that far apart. If what I'd written suggested exclusion, let me just clarify. I am absolutely not against immigration etc. in to or out of our group of islands, or any other for that matter (I'm doing it myself obviously). In fact I wish Ireland was more diverse than it is. I think the learning and exposure to different cultures and mind sets is important (especially here in Ireland). I will defend anyone's right to be here (so long as they're legal obviously), and have welcomed the changing (albeit pretty small at the moment) demographic in the country.
I have many many friends who live in the UK but were born outside the UK. Would I ever suggest they didn't call themselves British - absolutely not, because I fully accept and understand that here is so much more to being Irish/British/American/French than how we look or where we were born.
My view on being born here is as I have said just a simplistic view, however ultimately I respect a person's right to choice and to describe and determine their nationality/citizenship just how they want to.
Hope I've managed to express myself better this time!
Now as for as for Londonuck's point ......... I am so not going to go there. That's a whole political area that I won't touch with a 10ft pole. Caused way too much grief here in NI and I'm just not a political person.
And yes please, I think I took this thread way too far off. Apologies for that.
Having been stared at in the street, tutted at and verbally abused as one half of an interracial relationship, the BNP reference really stung .. anyway that's a whole other thread I think lol.Ok, in expressing my simplistic opinion about being irish, and the frustration with people who express lots of views and opinions on Ireland (particularly my own fair Northern Ireland) or who say they are irish but have never been here, I accept that there probably wasn't sufficient involvement or information from me previously which might give a more true picture of my thoughts or feeling on the issue.
I actually suspect our views are not that far apart. If what I'd written suggested exclusion, let me just clarify. I am absolutely not against immigration etc. in to or out of our group of islands, or any other for that matter (I'm doing it myself obviously). In fact I wish Ireland was more diverse than it is. I think the learning and exposure to different cultures and mind sets is important (especially here in Ireland). I will defend anyone's right to be here (so long as they're legal obviously), and have welcomed the changing (albeit pretty small at the moment) demographic in the country.
I have many many friends who live in the UK but were born outside the UK. Would I ever suggest they didn't call themselves British - absolutely not, because I fully accept and understand that here is so much more to being Irish/British/American/French than how we look or where we were born.
My view on being born here is as I have said just a simplistic view, however ultimately I respect a person's right to choice and to describe and determine their nationality/citizenship just how they want to.
Hope I've managed to express myself better this time!
Now as for as for Londonuck's point ......... I am so not going to go there.
That's a whole political area that I won't touch with a 10ft pole. Caused way too much grief here in NI and I'm just not a political person.And yes please, I think I took this thread way too far off. Apologies for that.
First there's the interracial relationship side of things (a few years back), so I've heard plenty of those tut-tuts too. Things have changed a lot over the years, but at times it doesn't seem so.
Also, a long-time girlfriend from (Northern) Ireland used to give me the "Rescue me!" sign at parties whenever she was cornered by an American who was intent on demonstrating his (lack of) knowledge of "the Troubles" and listing every detail of his Irish heritage. The funny thing is, as the conversation continued, said American's accent would slowly drift from Southern Texas drawl to something resembling John Wayne's accent in The Quiet Man.
Sorry for the argy-bargy earlier, I get my knickers in a twist sometimes. Fresh start, eh?
Aug 31st 2009, 9:34 pm
#64
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
No problem, the argy bargy led to discussion which led to understanding so it's all good. 
Sep 23rd 2009, 11:53 pm
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
Hi JAJ,
When I leave Montreal for Manchester I will be purchasing a one way ticket. Will I have a problem entering the UK?
When I leave Montreal for Manchester I will be purchasing a one way ticket. Will I have a problem entering the UK?
Sep 27th 2009, 1:02 am
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Oct 26th 2009, 7:38 pm
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Re: Irish citizenship for British citizens
I pick up my passport from the Irish Embassy in Ottawa tomorrow. They received my application July 13th. A very slow process for a passport. If anyone has applied for theirs. You are going to have a bit of a wait.
