Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Jan 2nd 2019, 10:18 am
#31
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
When the UK leaves the EU then British citizens’ rights as EU citizens will cease. This includes freedom of movement. Non-EU spouses of EU citizens however enjoy the same rights as their EU citizen spouses. Therefore whilst your husband’s freedom of movement rights will cease post-Brexit, yours, as an Irish citizen, will continue and therefore your husband’s as well as your spouse providing you travel together.
Jan 2nd 2019, 12:19 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
The point about travelling together should present no problems for us but I am intrigued how it would work since my spouse would join the EU citizens queue and I would be in the others queue. We joke about being separated for the first time in 57yrs by the stupidity of it all but really I just hope it all fades away with the withdrawal of the letter in a couple of weeks.
Jan 2nd 2019, 1:09 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
I wonder if Brits will start using Ireland as a stepping stone to other EU countries. What I have in mind is staying in Ireland long enough to apply for Irish citizenship then moving to the EU country of ones choice. As the only English speaking EU country it will have the advantage that any citizenship exams will be in a familiar language.
Jan 2nd 2019, 1:13 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Jan 2nd 2019, 1:16 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
I wonder if Brits will start using Ireland as a stepping stone to other EU countries. What I have in mind is staying in Ireland long enough to apply for Irish citizenship then moving to the EU country of ones choice. As the only English speaking EU country it will have the advantage that any citizenship exams will be in a familiar language.
Jan 2nd 2019, 1:29 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
I wonder if Brits will start using Ireland as a stepping stone to other EU countries. What I have in mind is staying in Ireland long enough to apply for Irish citizenship then moving to the EU country of ones choice. As the only English speaking EU country it will have the advantage that any citizenship exams will be in a familiar language.
Mar 9th 2019, 12:30 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Hello
We are thinking of retiring to the ROI in the near future from South Africa.
Ihave a full British passport and my husband has a German passport as we were both born in these countries.
Our adult sons have British and German passports by descent and South African passports by birth.
Both my husband and I and one son all have Irish PPS numbers if that makes a difference. Would we just arrive as if we already lived there? Will Brexit be an issue with our variety of passports .
Thank you
We are thinking of retiring to the ROI in the near future from South Africa.
Ihave a full British passport and my husband has a German passport as we were both born in these countries.
Our adult sons have British and German passports by descent and South African passports by birth.
Both my husband and I and one son all have Irish PPS numbers if that makes a difference. Would we just arrive as if we already lived there? Will Brexit be an issue with our variety of passports .
Thank you
Mar 9th 2019, 4:40 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Hello
We are thinking of retiring to the ROI in the near future from South Africa.
Ihave a full British passport and my husband has a German passport as we were both born in these countries.
Our adult sons have British and German passports by descent and South African passports by birth.
Both my husband and I and one son all have Irish PPS numbers if that makes a difference. Would we just arrive as if we already lived there? Will Brexit be an issue with our variety of passports .
Thank you
We are thinking of retiring to the ROI in the near future from South Africa.
Ihave a full British passport and my husband has a German passport as we were both born in these countries.
Our adult sons have British and German passports by descent and South African passports by birth.
Both my husband and I and one son all have Irish PPS numbers if that makes a difference. Would we just arrive as if we already lived there? Will Brexit be an issue with our variety of passports .
Thank you
Mar 18th 2019, 2:47 pm
#39
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Hello, i have a full British citizen passport
and no irish ancestry so i am wondering is there a way i can move to Ireland before brexit or during the transition period if there is , and how long does it take for a brit to become an irish citizen so that one can continue having freedom of movement in EU
and no irish ancestry so i am wondering is there a way i can move to Ireland before brexit or during the transition period if there is , and how long does it take for a brit to become an irish citizen so that one can continue having freedom of movement in EU
Mar 18th 2019, 2:57 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Hello, i have a full British citizen passport
and no irish ancestry so i am wondering is there a way i can move to Ireland before brexit or during the transition period if there is , and how long does it take for a brit to become an irish citizen so that one can continue having freedom of movement in EU
and no irish ancestry so i am wondering is there a way i can move to Ireland before brexit or during the transition period if there is , and how long does it take for a brit to become an irish citizen so that one can continue having freedom of movement in EU
As previously mentioned, you would need to prove that you have lived in Ireland for five years to become a naturalized Irish citizen. See Citizenship by naturalisation
So, it's not a short-term plan, but it is a plan.......
Mar 18th 2019, 3:02 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Under the CTA you have the right to travel freely, to live and to vote in the Republic, now and after any form of Brexit.
As previously mentioned, you would need to prove that you have lived in Ireland for five years to become a naturalized Irish citizen. See Citizenship by naturalisation
So, it's not a short-term plan, but it is a plan.......
As previously mentioned, you would need to prove that you have lived in Ireland for five years to become a naturalized Irish citizen. See Citizenship by naturalisation
So, it's not a short-term plan, but it is a plan.......
Mar 18th 2019, 3:20 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
You can famously "buy" your way in to some EU countries, given you have the cash, but I think most would require a similar term of residence before considering naturalization.
Mar 18th 2019, 4:18 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Ireland would certainly be the easiest option in terms of your right to residence, language and cultural barriers, finding employment, etc.. but I suspect it would just be simpler overall to move to the EU country of your choice on your British passport rather than spend five plus years spinning your wheels in Ireland.
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Mar 18th 2019, 9:45 pm
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
It is lower in certain countries if you have familial ties, such as a spouse, or meet other pre-conditions, but I’m not aware of anywhere where it’s less than five under ‘normal’ circumstances. It’s usually five to ten years depending on the country involved.
Ireland would certainly be the easiest option in terms of your right to residence, language and cultural barriers, finding employment, etc.. but I suspect it would just be simpler overall to move to the EU country of your choice on your British passport rather than spend five plus years spinning your wheels in Ireland.
Ireland would certainly be the easiest option in terms of your right to residence, language and cultural barriers, finding employment, etc.. but I suspect it would just be simpler overall to move to the EU country of your choice on your British passport rather than spend five plus years spinning your wheels in Ireland.
and BiP youve been of great help
Jul 29th 2019, 2:44 am
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Re: Brits in Ireland post Brexit
Not intending to keep resurrecting this informative thread, but things seem a bit worrisome lately (to me, anyway). With Boris Johnson now appearing willing to crash out of the EU by end of October, the Good Friday agreement guaranteeing citizens rights and benefits in both countries doesn't seem quite as solid. Boris has made noises about commitment to the agreement, but there's much unpredictability with him, in my opinion. The Irish prime minister also appears uncomfortable with the new situation.
With both of us having UK citizenship, we're still planning a retirement move to the ROI. We just hope things don't go downhill from here.
With both of us having UK citizenship, we're still planning a retirement move to the ROI. We just hope things don't go downhill from here.
