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salopian May 18th 2024 11:10 pm

Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 
G'day! We are a dual-national Australian/ UK couple (60 and 63 years old) who wish to retire to Southern Ireland in April / May 2025. For the last 14 years, we have resided in the UK. We have many questions about the process from pension entitlements, recommended relocation companies, moving with pets, good locations when buying a house, etc! Also, our 26-year-old daughter will be coming to live with us. She intends to do a Master's Degree in Marine zoology when we settle in Ireland.
To start the ball rolling:
  1. Can anyone out there advise us on the Pension situation as to whether we can get a UK pension once we have moved to Ireland and is this as straightforward as we've heard?
  2. A trickier question is would we be able to claim the Australian aged pension in Ireland ? We know that there is a social security agreement between Australia and Ireland
We would be most grateful for any advice or direction
with thanks
Julie and Kevin

Pollyana May 19th 2024 12:04 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 

Originally Posted by salopian (Post 13253900)
G'day! We are a dual-national Australian/ UK couple (60 and 63 years old) who wish to retire to Southern Ireland in April / May 2025. For the last 14 years, we have resided in the UK. We have many questions about the process from pension entitlements, recommended relocation companies, moving with pets, good locations when buying a house, etc! Also, our 26-year-old daughter will be coming to live with us. She intends to do a Master's Degree in Marine zoology when we settle in Ireland.
To start the ball rolling:
  1. Can anyone out there advise us on the Pension situation as to whether we can get a UK pension once we have moved to Ireland and is this as straightforward as we've heard?
  2. A trickier question is would we be able to claim the Australian aged pension in Ireland ? We know that there is a social security agreement between Australia and Ireland
We would be most grateful for any advice or direction
with thanks
Julie and Kevin

Others will have more details on living in Ireland, but in the meantime, yes, you will be able to claim UK State Pension in Ireland when you get to that age, depending of course on what you have paid into the UK system.
As regards the Australian State Pension though, firstly its means-tested (unlike the UK one) and secondly I believe you need to be resident in Australia when you start to claim it. Details of the Aus one are here -
https://www.servicesaustralia.gov.au...?context=22526

EU.flag May 20th 2024 5:38 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 
You can check your UK pension forcast website, https://www.gov.uk/check-state-pension .
Also, you should seriously consider toping up your UK pension by buying missing years.

Many would be moving another way around, but hey.

A Bit Cheeky May 21st 2024 9:43 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 
Just a little heads up...it's the Republic of Ireland, not Southern Ireland.;)

salopian May 24th 2024 12:45 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 
Thanks for all your replies.

OrangeMango May 26th 2024 12:39 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 

Originally Posted by A Bit Cheeky (Post 13254142)
Just a little heads up...it's the Republic of Ireland, not Southern Ireland.;)

I've heard "Southern Ireland" often among older people in England. I think they use Southern Ireland as opposed to Northern Ireland.

In Ireland, Southern Ireland would almost certainly refer to the South of Ireland, and be used geographically only.

macliam May 28th 2024 8:55 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 13254884)
I've heard "Southern Ireland" often among older people in England. I think they use Southern Ireland as opposed to Northern Ireland.

In Ireland, Southern Ireland would almost certainly refer to the South of Ireland, and be used geographically only.

Just call it Ireland, and FWIW the six counties are either that, or "the North".

OrangeMango Aug 22nd 2024 4:17 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 

Originally Posted by macliam (Post 13255267)
Just call it Ireland, and FWIW the six counties are either that, or "the North".

So far I've heard:

Northern Ireland
The North
Ulster
The Six Occupied Counties


macliam Aug 22nd 2024 4:44 am

Re: Australian UK dual national couple moving to Southern Ireland HELP!HEL
 

Originally Posted by OrangeMango (Post 13271467)
So far I've heard:

Northern Ireland
The North
Ulster
The Six Occupied Counties

OK, best I can..... how does the phrase go? "It's complicated...."
- Northern Ireland is the official name of the gerrymandered statelet created to ensure a permanent unionist majority in the six counties (that plan has failed).
- The North (with or without capital "n") is what it's called elsewhere on the island. Daft name as the most northern part (Donegal) isn't in "the North".
- Ulster is one of the four provinces of Ireland (the others are Munster, Leinster and Connacht). BUT, Ulster has 9 counties, only six are in "the North".
- The six counties is another term used elsewhere in Ireland to be non-political. "Occupied" suggests a republican viewpoint and isn't entirely true.

Hpefully, in time, this confusion will be amicably resolved and the whole island will once again be Ireland, a 32-county state - and we can get back to our old inter-provincial bickering without the political baggage we have at present. ;)

So, if you're moving to the current 26 county Republic, the name of the state is Ireland - and the "six counties" is a gentle way to describe the other bit.

Tá failte romhat!


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