Any positive stories?

Old Jan 15th 2012, 12:57 am
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Looking at the other posts here it seems that I have no chance of finding a job in Ireland, but I wonder if there are any positive stories. I am a Teacher in the UK, but just want to be nearer my parents as they are getting older. I don't care what kind of work I do, I am single and accommodation isn't an issue, I just need to earn enough to pay for the basics.
As I said, I imagine people will say forget about it, just wonder if there's any way of coming back now.
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Old Jan 15th 2012, 3:23 am
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
Looking at the other posts here it seems that I have no chance of finding a job in Ireland, but I wonder if there are any positive stories. I am a Teacher in the UK, but just want to be nearer my parents as they are getting older. I don't care what kind of work I do, I am single and accommodation isn't an issue, I just need to earn enough to pay for the basics.
As I said, I imagine people will say forget about it, just wonder if there's any way of coming back now.
To be honest with you, you wont get a job related to teaching. Teaching degrees are worthless in Ireland, as for the last 10 years many graduates saw a Teaching career as a secure recession proof career. The problem is that there are now too many Teachers, and not enough vacancies. I have a first class honours degree, and a masters degree; and after 3 years living in Ireland I can't get a job. I am over experienced and qualified for minimum wage jobs, and under qualified and experienced for senior management and director level jobs. I know people with masters and PHD's who can't get work in KFC, McDonalds, or Penneys (Primark). You will find it impossible to get a job. Fact. Everyone that can, is emigrating to the UK, Canada, or Australia at the moment in search of work. There really isn't any work in Ireland at the moment. I supported myself here for 2 years, and now I am claiming 188 Euro per week dole. I am biding my time until things improve and I can get a job. But realistically it will be another 2-5 years for that to happen. If you come, make sure you have enough to support yourself for 2 years. Then you can pass the HRC and claim Irish dole.
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Old Jan 15th 2012, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
Looking at the other posts here it seems that I have no chance of finding a job in Ireland, but I wonder if there are any positive stories. I am a Teacher in the UK, but just want to be nearer my parents as they are getting older. I don't care what kind of work I do, I am single and accommodation isn't an issue, I just need to earn enough to pay for the basics.
As I said, I imagine people will say forget about it, just wonder if there's any way of coming back now.
Ignore much of the uniformed drivel the previous poster has written.

Although the teaching profession. like virtually every profession in Ireland, is in contraction that's not to say vacancies don't arise through the normal process of retirement, etc.

I know several teachers from the UK who have moved to Ireland, initially working on a part-time basis as and when the work arose before finally securing full-time jobs.

There is also a flourishing business in " grinds " - teachers providing extra tuition to pupils in the evenings and at weekends.

Whilst these are difficult times in Ireland anyone with a good work ethic and willingness to go the extra mile can survive and find employment.There is certainly no need to sponge off the state for
" 2-5 years " until the jobs market improves.

Good luck if you make the plunge.
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Well it's good to hear different perspectives, surprisingly I have seen loads of Teaching Assistant jobs advertised over Christmas and the New Year and this county, part-time but still a pleasant surprise.

Thanks both posters for your replies.
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Originally Posted by Cuthbert Rizla
Ignore much of the uniformed drivel the previous poster has written.

Although the teaching profession. like virtually every profession in Ireland, is in contraction that's not to say vacancies don't arise through the normal process of retirement, etc.

I know several teachers from the UK who have moved to Ireland, initially working on a part-time basis as and when the work arose before finally securing full-time jobs.

There is also a flourishing business in " grinds " - teachers providing extra tuition to pupils in the evenings and at weekends.

Whilst these are difficult times in Ireland anyone with a good work ethic and willingness to go the extra mile can survive and find employment.There is certainly no need to sponge off the state for
" 2-5 years " until the jobs market improves.

Good luck if you make the plunge.
Nonsense.
Preference is given to Gaelic speaking Teachers, which therefore rules out UK applicants. Grinds are usually done by PHD students for extra cash. There is an oversupply of Teachers in Ireland at the moment. The way Teachers get into Schools and Colleges is by going on a standby list. Then they get supply Teaching work at short notice, but it is typically 1-2 days a week when a Teacher phones in sick; or requires holiday cover etc. There are massive waiting lists for those on standby. You would be a long time waiting for a vacancy to come up via retirement. Teaching is a a secure profession, and Teachers don't give up there jobs very often these days.
Don't call my posts drivel. I base my opinions on fact.
Don't call me a sponge off the state. I paid tax into the EU social fund for 14 years of my working life. I am now unemployed, so I am claiming social welfare from it. That it what it is there for. I feel no guilt or shame in claiming from a system that I paid 14 years of tax into.
Here is some advice for you personally, lose the attitude.
I am trying to give helpful advice here to someone who needs it. The only person you are showing up on here by slagging my posts is yourself.
You might think you are brave, getting bold as a keyboard warrior; but I can tell you one thing, if you were face to face with me you wouldn't get so brave.
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
Well it's good to hear different perspectives, surprisingly I have seen loads of Teaching Assistant jobs advertised over Christmas and the New Year and this county, part-time but still a pleasant surprise.

Thanks both posters for your replies.
Can I ask where you saw all these Teaching jobs advertised?
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Originally Posted by Sean MacMaghnuis
Nonsense.
Preference is given to Gaelic speaking Teachers, which therefore rules out UK applicants. Grinds are usually done by PHD students for extra cash. There is an oversupply of Teachers in Ireland at the moment. The way Teachers get into Schools and Colleges is by going on a standby list. Then they get supply Teaching work at short notice, but it is typically 1-2 days a week when a Teacher phones in sick; or requires holiday cover etc. There are massive waiting lists for those on standby. You would be a long time waiting for a vacancy to come up via retirement. Teaching is a a secure profession, and Teachers don't give up there jobs very often these days.
Don't call my posts drivel. I base my opinions on fact.
Don't call me a sponge off the state. I paid tax into the EU social fund for 14 years of my working life. I am now unemployed, so I am claiming social welfare from it. That it what it is there for. I feel no guilt or shame in claiming from a system that I paid 14 years of tax into.
Here is some advice for you personally, lose the attitude.
I am trying to give helpful advice here to someone who needs it. The only person you are showing up on here by slagging my posts is yourself.
You might think you are brave, getting bold as a keyboard warrior; but I can tell you one thing, if you were face to face with me you wouldn't get so brave.


As an Irish taxpayer and employer living here rather longer than someone who appears unwilling or unable to find employment when far less qualified people from Eastern Europe don't have any such trouble I can assure you that people who move here as a lifestyle choice funded by a local population already under severe austerity measures are not the most popular.

Although you clearly know your way around the benefits system rather better than I do.
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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by blueeyes
Looking at the other posts here it seems that I have no chance of finding a job in Ireland, but I wonder if there are any positive stories. I am a Teacher in the UK, but just want to be nearer my parents as they are getting older. I don't care what kind of work I do, I am single and accommodation isn't an issue, I just need to earn enough to pay for the basics.
As I said, I imagine people will say forget about it, just wonder if there's any way of coming back now.

This piece of news may be of interest to you if you're considering a move sometime this year.
Now might be the time to start knocking out a few letters of interest with your CV.
Good luck.




THE GOVERNMENT is likely to have to recruit hundreds of school teachers later this year to plug gaps left by a bigger-than-expected uptake of staff leaving before new pension changes take effect next month.

Significant disruption in schools after February is likely after new figures showed almost 1,600 primary and second-level teachers are set to leave the education service ahead of a drop in pension entitlements.

The departure of so many experienced staff, far more than the 1,100 who were expected to apply, will pose a challenge in schools already struggling with increasing class sizes and cutbacks. The fact most are leaving in the middle of the school year will cause further problems.


http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...310628042.html
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Originally Posted by Sean MacMaghnuis
Nonsense.
Preference is given to Gaelic speaking Teachers, which therefore rules out UK applicants. Grinds are usually done by PHD students for extra cash. There is an oversupply of Teachers in Ireland at the moment. The way Teachers get into Schools and Colleges is by going on a standby list. Then they get supply Teaching work at short notice, but it is typically 1-2 days a week when a Teacher phones in sick; or requires holiday cover etc. There are massive waiting lists for those on standby. You would be a long time waiting for a vacancy to come up via retirement. Teaching is a a secure profession, and Teachers don't give up there jobs very often these days.
Don't call my posts drivel. I base my opinions on fact.
Don't call me a sponge off the state. I paid tax into the EU social fund for 14 years of my working life. I am now unemployed, so I am claiming social welfare from it. That it what it is there for. I feel no guilt or shame in claiming from a system that I paid 14 years of tax into.
Here is some advice for you personally, lose the attitude.
I am trying to give helpful advice here to someone who needs it. The only person you are showing up on here by slagging my posts is yourself.
You might think you are brave, getting bold as a keyboard warrior; but I can tell you one thing, if you were face to face with me you wouldn't get so brave.


Really.
You might want to read my previous post.
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Old Jan 23rd 2012, 2:27 pm
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I must have a really skewed picture of Ireland. I am getting so many calls and emails with Job offers that I'm relocating from the UK to the RoI. It probably depends on your skill set. As always, when the going gets tough, get into a niche and own it.
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Ok 5flags what "niche" are you in?
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Ok 5flags what "niche" are you in?
I specialise in a particular computer programming tech, but I'm sure there are *many* other niches to find.
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Originally Posted by 5flags
I specialise in a particular computer programming tech, but I'm sure there are *many* other niches to find.
You will find it impossible to get a job in computer programming in Ireland.
I know an Irish Computer Programmer with a Masters in Computer Sciences, and 6 years post graduate Java and Linux experience and he is unemployable. He is emigrating to Australia this year to find work. IT work is oversubscribed, with most big IT companies such as; Dell, HP, Google, outsourcing their programming work to other EU countries will lower labour rates.
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Originally Posted by 5flags
I must have a really skewed picture of Ireland. I am getting so many calls and emails with Job offers that I'm relocating from the UK to the RoI. It probably depends on your skill set. As always, when the going gets tough, get into a niche and own it.
I admire your positive attitude and it's one which will see you in good stead if and when you make the move here.
Any fool can succeed in the good times but when the chips are down the real grafters - the people with a bit of self-pride,ingenuity and guile - rise to the top.
Certainly there would be no point in moving to another country if you'd already resigned yourself to " 2-5 years " living on the dole before you'd even got there.
Where I live the pubs are still busy, the restaurants remain open, people still go shopping and life goes on pretty much as it used to.
Go for it.
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Originally Posted by Sean MacMaghnuis
You will find it impossible to get a job in computer programming in Ireland.
Been offered another one today. Your friend might be finding it impossible to get a job in computer programming in Ireland, but I can assure you his experiences are not universal.
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