Worst guide book?
Aug 27th 2003, 3:44 am
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Re: Worst guide book?
In article <[email protected] >,
[email protected] (David) wrote:
> Worst Books:
> Europe on a Shoestring. Dreadful book. Sketchy and patronising.
> Lets Go guides much the same.
> Insight Guides. Lots of pictures no meat.
> Eyewitness guide for those that need lots of pictures. I buy these,
> but dont take them with me. Too much irrelevant hotel info and
> cutaways of a typical Italian building for example.
>
> I enjoy:
>
> Rough Guides (the bigger tomes). Maps could be better though.
> Time Out Guides are the best for cities.
> Baedecker Guides the best for anyone taking travel seriously.
I've been using Baedecker for trip planning almost exclusively for
several years now. At one time(years ago) I also used the Michelin green
guide, but that was before I discovered Baedecker.
I travel light--extremely so--so when I actually leave, I just take
copies of the relevant pages.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)
Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
[email protected] (David) wrote:
> Worst Books:
> Europe on a Shoestring. Dreadful book. Sketchy and patronising.
> Lets Go guides much the same.
> Insight Guides. Lots of pictures no meat.
> Eyewitness guide for those that need lots of pictures. I buy these,
> but dont take them with me. Too much irrelevant hotel info and
> cutaways of a typical Italian building for example.
>
> I enjoy:
>
> Rough Guides (the bigger tomes). Maps could be better though.
> Time Out Guides are the best for cities.
> Baedecker Guides the best for anyone taking travel seriously.
I've been using Baedecker for trip planning almost exclusively for
several years now. At one time(years ago) I also used the Michelin green
guide, but that was before I discovered Baedecker.
I travel light--extremely so--so when I actually leave, I just take
copies of the relevant pages.
--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)
Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Aug 27th 2003, 4:44 am
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"Deep Flayed Mares" <[email protected]> wrote in
news:[email protected]:
> David <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Worst Books:
>> Europe on a Shoestring. Dreadful book. Sketchy and patronising.
>
> Patronising? What do you mean?
What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides that
used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may read a
little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of course Europe is
poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby clothing styles, but
nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt' and 'blue jeans'" (not
literally, but along those lines).
Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out of
the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
Regards
--
Have a lot of fun...
http://www.wschwanke.de/
news:[email protected]:
> David <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Worst Books:
>> Europe on a Shoestring. Dreadful book. Sketchy and patronising.
>
> Patronising? What do you mean?
What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides that
used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may read a
little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of course Europe is
poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby clothing styles, but
nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt' and 'blue jeans'" (not
literally, but along those lines).
Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out of
the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
Regards
--
Have a lot of fun...
http://www.wschwanke.de/
Aug 27th 2003, 7:22 am
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>that seemed to be a common element
>of many TV shows. Most odd. I cautioned them not to assume tv was
>representative of American society, else we would start to believe
>that "Benny Hill" (which, when I was young, seemed to be the only
>British show on US TV) was typical of all Englishmen
How about Mr. Bean?
>of many TV shows. Most odd. I cautioned them not to assume tv was
>representative of American society, else we would start to believe
>that "Benny Hill" (which, when I was young, seemed to be the only
>British show on US TV) was typical of all Englishmen
How about Mr. Bean?
Aug 27th 2003, 1:57 pm
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Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
2 or 8 doors down the road was a hotel that was less expensive &
cleaner and no graffiti.
In LP's recommended hotel, the beds looked like they'd been rented by
the hour.
That sounds like a poorly researched book to me. I wrote a letter to
LP with a SASE and got no reply.
Bad Guide! Bad! Bad!!!
walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
2 or 8 doors down the road was a hotel that was less expensive &
cleaner and no graffiti.
In LP's recommended hotel, the beds looked like they'd been rented by
the hour.
That sounds like a poorly researched book to me. I wrote a letter to
LP with a SASE and got no reply.
Bad Guide! Bad! Bad!!!
Aug 27th 2003, 2:40 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
> walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
> the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
????
Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
place was, why did you go there?
> 2 or 8 doors down the road was a hotel that was less expensive &
> cleaner and no graffiti.
> In LP's recommended hotel, the beds looked like they'd been rented by
> the hour.
> That sounds like a poorly researched book to me. I wrote a letter to
> LP with a SASE and got no reply.
> Bad Guide! Bad! Bad!!!
One bad reference does not make a bad guide! Where was the hotel, and what
was its name?
They do of course have a disclaimer in the front that states that good
places go bad, bad places go broke. I have found places in the guide are
frequently full due to the fact that many people have the same guide. I have
found things to be different a number of times from when I have referenced
LP, but surely that is to be expected. After all, it was probably a number
of years since the research occurred. Your dissatifaction sounds
unreasonable to me.
---
DFM
news:[email protected]...
> Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
> walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
> the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
????
Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
place was, why did you go there?
> 2 or 8 doors down the road was a hotel that was less expensive &
> cleaner and no graffiti.
> In LP's recommended hotel, the beds looked like they'd been rented by
> the hour.
> That sounds like a poorly researched book to me. I wrote a letter to
> LP with a SASE and got no reply.
> Bad Guide! Bad! Bad!!!
One bad reference does not make a bad guide! Where was the hotel, and what
was its name?
They do of course have a disclaimer in the front that states that good
places go bad, bad places go broke. I have found places in the guide are
frequently full due to the fact that many people have the same guide. I have
found things to be different a number of times from when I have referenced
LP, but surely that is to be expected. After all, it was probably a number
of years since the research occurred. Your dissatifaction sounds
unreasonable to me.
---
DFM
Aug 27th 2003, 4:50 pm
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On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:40:05 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "Deep Flayed Mares"
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
:
... <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
...
... ????
...
... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
... place was, why did you go there?
The walls !
<[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
:
... <[email protected]> wrote in message
... news:[email protected]...
... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
...
... ????
...
... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
... place was, why did you go there?
The walls !
Aug 27th 2003, 5:48 pm
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Deep laid claim to the following perspective:
><[email protected]> wrote in message
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>> Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
>> walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
>> the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
>> single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
>
> ????
>
> Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
> place was, why did you go there?
Forgive me for jumping in here, but as I read the OP it seems to me
that the comment was:
"Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel..." and when the OP got there they
found "...there was graffiti on the walls of the hotel."
I doubt that the LP would "recommend" a hotel that bad.
It is a neat image though.
Benifits
- Patron opinions are spray panted on the walls!
- Rooms with special decore!
- Located up the street from a cheaper place!
- Also includes house pets in the form of mice!
;-)
Mari
--
"A kiss that has no ropes, no strings no obligations,
I don't own you, be quite sure, you don't own me."
-- The Tear Garden 'In Search of My Rose'
><[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>> Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
>> walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
>> the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
>> single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
>
> ????
>
> Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
> place was, why did you go there?
Forgive me for jumping in here, but as I read the OP it seems to me
that the comment was:
"Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel..." and when the OP got there they
found "...there was graffiti on the walls of the hotel."
I doubt that the LP would "recommend" a hotel that bad.
It is a neat image though.
Benifits
- Patron opinions are spray panted on the walls!
- Rooms with special decore!
- Located up the street from a cheaper place!
- Also includes house pets in the form of mice!
;-)
Mari
--
"A kiss that has no ropes, no strings no obligations,
I don't own you, be quite sure, you don't own me."
-- The Tear Garden 'In Search of My Rose'
Aug 28th 2003, 3:11 am
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Wolfgang Schwanke vented
>
> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
Pretty standard fare for those of us who visited 1955-65....
>
> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out
> of the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
>
In 1962, Berlin seemed a bit downbeat. This "Wall" thing seemed in the
forefront of local conscience. Places like Frankfurt and Cologne still had
substantial piles of rubble.
Back then, Copenhagen was more enjoyable.
...But then personal perspectives can be strange and personal tastes not
always objective. Lubeck remains in my memory as the most pleasant German
city, even after one 1983 visit.
The best guide (for a Europe now departed): The original edition of
_Europe on $5.00 a Day_, required purchase for young travelers about 1960.
TMO
>
>
> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
Pretty standard fare for those of us who visited 1955-65....
>
> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out
> of the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
>
In 1962, Berlin seemed a bit downbeat. This "Wall" thing seemed in the
forefront of local conscience. Places like Frankfurt and Cologne still had
substantial piles of rubble.
Back then, Copenhagen was more enjoyable.
...But then personal perspectives can be strange and personal tastes not
always objective. Lubeck remains in my memory as the most pleasant German
city, even after one 1983 visit.
The best guide (for a Europe now departed): The original edition of
_Europe on $5.00 a Day_, required purchase for young travelers about 1960.
TMO
>
Aug 28th 2003, 9:53 am
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TMOliver <[email protected]> wrote in
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> Wolfgang Schwanke vented
>
>>
>> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
>> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
>> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
>> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
>> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
>> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
>
> Pretty standard fare for those of us who visited 1955-65....
But it was printed in the 1990s.
Regards
--
Ride the Ultrabeat
http://www.wschwanke.de/
news:[email protected]:
> Wolfgang Schwanke vented
>
>>
>> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
>> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
>> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
>> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
>> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
>> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
>
> Pretty standard fare for those of us who visited 1955-65....
But it was printed in the 1990s.
Regards
--
Ride the Ultrabeat
http://www.wschwanke.de/
Aug 28th 2003, 11:58 am
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> ...But then personal perspectives can be strange and personal tastes not
> always objective. Lubeck remains in my memory as the most pleasant German
> city, even after one 1983 visit.
Lubeck is my favourite town in Germany outside of Berlin. Something about
being surrounded by so much water and glorious churches etc. There is also a
fantastic hostel there called the Rucksack Hotel. One of the best I have
found. Run by a very nice Lithuanian lady who speaks Lithuanian, Russian,
German, English and Spanish. Loved it!
---
DFM
> always objective. Lubeck remains in my memory as the most pleasant German
> city, even after one 1983 visit.
Lubeck is my favourite town in Germany outside of Berlin. Something about
being surrounded by so much water and glorious churches etc. There is also a
fantastic hostel there called the Rucksack Hotel. One of the best I have
found. Run by a very nice Lithuanian lady who speaks Lithuanian, Russian,
German, English and Spanish. Loved it!
---
DFM
Aug 29th 2003, 7:23 am
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Hi,
green and would fit in a gentleman's inside coat pocket?
while they are available in english that's a MICHELIN Green Book! so
it's a FRENCH guidebook.
they have a red book on food/hotels etc too.
I like the green guides myself... they cover the things that don't
change much... the Eiffel Tour doesn't move around much, they don't move
the graves in Pere LaChaise much, and while the Clingoncourt markets
have changed and are far more modern than they were when I was a kid
some of them haven't changed in a century.
> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides that
> used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may read a
> little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of course Europe is
> poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby clothing styles, but
> nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt' and 'blue jeans'" (not
> literally, but along those lines).
>
> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out of
> the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
--
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted,
and I won't be layed a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people,
and I require the same from them"
J.B. Books (John Wayne)
green and would fit in a gentleman's inside coat pocket?
while they are available in english that's a MICHELIN Green Book! so
it's a FRENCH guidebook.
they have a red book on food/hotels etc too.
I like the green guides myself... they cover the things that don't
change much... the Eiffel Tour doesn't move around much, they don't move
the graves in Pere LaChaise much, and while the Clingoncourt markets
have changed and are far more modern than they were when I was a kid
some of them haven't changed in a century.
> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides that
> used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may read a
> little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of course Europe is
> poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby clothing styles, but
> nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt' and 'blue jeans'" (not
> literally, but along those lines).
>
> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out of
> the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
--
"I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted,
and I won't be layed a hand on.
I don't do these things to other people,
and I require the same from them"
J.B. Books (John Wayne)
Aug 29th 2003, 6:08 pm
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Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:40:05 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "Deep Flayed Mares"
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
>:
> ... <> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
> ... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
> ... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> ... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
> ...
> ... ????
> ...
> ... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
> ... place was, why did you go there?
>The walls !
Yes the sentence was a litlle obtuse!
Thanks to everyone that figured it out.
1) LP recommended the place!
2) Several previous tenants to the room wrote comments on the walls
inside the room about how bad the hotel was! And the hotel staff
didn't bother to erase the comments.
3) LP still recommends the hotel!
4) Have you ever seen a Travel Guide that said "don't go to Randy
Andy's Hotel! It's a mess!"? Travel Guides are always complaining
about how LITTLE SPACE and how little time, they have for
recommendations. They don't tend to give bad reviews of businesses,
they barely warn of bad neighborhoods. Some cities even remove the
"bad" neighborhoods from their "tourist" maps, so unsuspecting
tourists have been known to stumble into them.
Thanks to all those that got my point!
Travel safely!
>On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:40:05 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "Deep Flayed Mares"
><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they looked like this
>:
> ... <> wrote in message
> ... news:[email protected]...
> ... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on the
> ... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls inside
> ... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> ... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place was.
> ...
> ... ????
> ...
> ... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how bad a
> ... place was, why did you go there?
>The walls !
Yes the sentence was a litlle obtuse!
Thanks to everyone that figured it out.
1) LP recommended the place!
2) Several previous tenants to the room wrote comments on the walls
inside the room about how bad the hotel was! And the hotel staff
didn't bother to erase the comments.
3) LP still recommends the hotel!
4) Have you ever seen a Travel Guide that said "don't go to Randy
Andy's Hotel! It's a mess!"? Travel Guides are always complaining
about how LITTLE SPACE and how little time, they have for
recommendations. They don't tend to give bad reviews of businesses,
they barely warn of bad neighborhoods. Some cities even remove the
"bad" neighborhoods from their "tourist" maps, so unsuspecting
tourists have been known to stumble into them.
Thanks to all those that got my point!
Travel safely!
Aug 29th 2003, 8:15 pm
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<[email protected]> wrote:
> 4) Have you ever seen a Travel Guide that said "don't go to Randy Andy's
> Hotel! It's a mess!"? Travel Guides are always complaining about how
> LITTLE SPACE and how little time, they have for recommendations. They
> don't tend to give bad reviews of businesses, they barely warn of bad
> neighborhoods.
Most "bad" neighborhoods aren't worth warning about.
But anyway, I picked up a Footprint Handbook for Mexico and Central America
at the public library's book sale the other day. It's the most cryptic
guidebook I've ever seen, but it does seem to have a fair number of negative
comments about hotels and restaurants.
Actually, Lonely Planet does it now and then too.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
> 4) Have you ever seen a Travel Guide that said "don't go to Randy Andy's
> Hotel! It's a mess!"? Travel Guides are always complaining about how
> LITTLE SPACE and how little time, they have for recommendations. They
> don't tend to give bad reviews of businesses, they barely warn of bad
> neighborhoods.
Most "bad" neighborhoods aren't worth warning about.
But anyway, I picked up a Footprint Handbook for Mexico and Central America
at the public library's book sale the other day. It's the most cryptic
guidebook I've ever seen, but it does seem to have a fair number of negative
comments about hotels and restaurants.
Actually, Lonely Planet does it now and then too.
miguel
--
Hit The Road! Photos and tales from around the world: http://travel.u.nu
Aug 30th 2003, 12:03 am
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<[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:40:05 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "Deep Flayed
Mares"
> ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they
looked like this
> >:
> >
> > ... <> wrote in message
> > ... news:[email protected]...
> > ... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on
the
> > ... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls
inside
> > ... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> > ... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place
was.
> > ...
> > ... ????
> > ...
> > ... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how
bad a
> > ... place was, why did you go there?
> >
> >The walls !
> Yes the sentence was a litlle obtuse!
> Thanks to everyone that figured it out.
> 1) LP recommended the place!
> 2) Several previous tenants to the room wrote comments on the walls
> inside the room about how bad the hotel was! And the hotel staff
> didn't bother to erase the comments.
> 3) LP still recommends the hotel!
Where is it, and what's its name? I would love to know!
Hotels in some countries in Europe can be pretty bad. Some of the former
state-owned hotels in eastern Europe are really awful, but still the best on
offer. Hostels in London are usually pretty foul too. LP may recommend them
because they are the best available in a given area.
---
DFM
news:[email protected]...
> Magda <[email protected]> wrote:
> >On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 12:40:05 +1000, in rec.travel.europe, "Deep Flayed
Mares"
> ><[email protected]> arranged some electrons, so they
looked like this
> >:
> >
> > ... <> wrote in message
> > ... news:[email protected]...
> > ... > Lonely Planet directed me to a hotel where there was graffiti on
the
> > ... > walls of the hotel. Not on the outside walls, but on the walls
inside
> > ... > the rooms complaining about that particular hotel. And it wasn't a
> > ... > single entry, it was multiple comments about how bad the place
was.
> > ...
> > ... ????
> > ...
> > ... Could you explain that last sentence? If LP had comments about how
bad a
> > ... place was, why did you go there?
> >
> >The walls !
> Yes the sentence was a litlle obtuse!
> Thanks to everyone that figured it out.
> 1) LP recommended the place!
> 2) Several previous tenants to the room wrote comments on the walls
> inside the room about how bad the hotel was! And the hotel staff
> didn't bother to erase the comments.
> 3) LP still recommends the hotel!
Where is it, and what's its name? I would love to know!
Hotels in some countries in Europe can be pretty bad. Some of the former
state-owned hotels in eastern Europe are really awful, but still the best on
offer. Hostels in London are usually pretty foul too. LP may recommend them
because they are the best available in a given area.
---
DFM
Aug 30th 2003, 6:06 pm
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Hi,
I saw the definitive "worst" europe guidebook today while browsing at
BookStar.
the dummie's guide to europe.
Anonymouse wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> green and would fit in a gentleman's inside coat pocket?
>
> while they are available in english that's a MICHELIN Green Book! so
> it's a FRENCH guidebook.
>
> they have a red book on food/hotels etc too.
>
> I like the green guides myself... they cover the things that don't
> change much... the Eiffel Tour doesn't move around much, they don't move
> the graves in Pere LaChaise much, and while the Clingoncourt markets
> have changed and are far more modern than they were when I was a kid
> some of them haven't changed in a century.
>
>> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
>> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
>> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
>> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
>> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
>> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
>> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
>> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out
>> of the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
>
>
--
"Disperse, you rebels -- Damn you, throw down your arms and disperse!"
Maj. John Pitcairn (British Army), Lexington, Mass., April 19, 1775
I saw the definitive "worst" europe guidebook today while browsing at
BookStar.
the dummie's guide to europe.
Anonymouse wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> green and would fit in a gentleman's inside coat pocket?
>
> while they are available in english that's a MICHELIN Green Book! so
> it's a FRENCH guidebook.
>
> they have a red book on food/hotels etc too.
>
> I like the green guides myself... they cover the things that don't
> change much... the Eiffel Tour doesn't move around much, they don't move
> the graves in Pere LaChaise much, and while the Clingoncourt markets
> have changed and are far more modern than they were when I was a kid
> some of them haven't changed in a century.
>
>> What are those widespread English language (probably American) guides
>> that used to be all green outside? I've asked some Americans if I may
>> read a little in it. One of the introductory chapter was like "Of
>> course Europe is poorer than America, and it shows on the shabby
>> clothing styles, but nowadays even Europe is crazy for 'le tee shirt'
>> and 'blue jeans'" (not literally, but along those lines).
>> Their portrait of Berlin was all grey, downbeat and miserable, whereas
>> Denmark (the recommended next hop) was supposedly superfriendly. "Out
>> of the plane, and they'll greet you with a smile" (or somesuch).
>
>
--
"Disperse, you rebels -- Damn you, throw down your arms and disperse!"
Maj. John Pitcairn (British Army), Lexington, Mass., April 19, 1775
