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Old Feb 6th 2003, 9:44 pm
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Mobutu
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People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.

Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
more an emotional thing?

I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?

And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.
 
Old Feb 6th 2003, 9:49 pm
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le Fri, 07 Feb 2003 20:44:30 +1000, dans l'article , Mobutu a dit ...

    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    >
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    >
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    >
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

It depends on whether or not you're sensitive to the cold. I'm not, and
can bear extreme cold much better than extreme heat. I recall a trip to
Normandy with a friend in January 2000, when the temperature was hovering
around zero. What with the 'wind chill' factor of a bike moving forward at
around 90-100 mph, I couldn't feel my hands. I recall thinking that if I
had to do an emergency stop, I would be in deep shit. Other than that, we
had Honfleur virtually to ourselves, as no one else was mad^H^H^Hbrave
enough to be out and about. :-)

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Old Feb 6th 2003, 9:59 pm
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Desmond Coughlan wrote in
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I recall a
    > trip to Normandy with a friend in January 2000, when the temperature
    > was hovering around zero. What with the 'wind chill' factor of a bike
    > moving forward at around 90-100 mph, I couldn't feel my hands.

I assume that's a motorbike? If it's not, my money's on you in the next
Tour de France.
 
Old Feb 6th 2003, 10:40 pm
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Mobutu wrote in message
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    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

Europe is a big place Mobutu. Winters in Spain, Italy and Greece can be
fantastic.

Much of the rest is grey and gloomy (if it's not raining, snowing) over the
short winter days. Many Australians find it hard to come to terms with a
lack of sunlight that can be experienced in the winter.

Europe really comes alive during the summer, and that's why it's best to go
then, even if the cost is higher.
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Old Feb 6th 2003, 11:57 pm
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We live in the swamps of Louisiana where the heat index in summer is often
42 C.Cold wheather is a refreshment to me.Having also lived in Chicago where
severe winter is the norm,I feel that, except for ice on the roads (and
European trains are great for travel), winter's an exciting,romantic "bundle
up and be on your way" experience.The food even tastes better when it's cold
outside.My wife and I have seen Venice,Edinburgh and Paris in the winter and
in fact are heading to Amsterdam in a week.Wearing a stocking hat and gloves
is a small price to pay to avoid the crowds.One problem, however, is that
many tourist sites are closed so plan carefully
 
Old Feb 6th 2003, 11:58 pm
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Mobutu wrote:

    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?

The only pain is when you get somewhere and half the amenities are closed -
out of season.
But then if you're a practical type you can get by without half the "tourist
oriented" stuff anyway.

    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?

No.
Europe has a vast spectrum of winter climates. From Arctic (Scandinavia) to
Mediterranean and everything in between. Just decide what you want to aim
for and get kitted out.

    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

The only grief you might encounter is in England. Half an inch of snow and
the entire country crashes to a gridlocked halt!
If you are willing to endure damp, cold and horizontal rain as well as
bright clear fresh days (or a mixture of both at once) then save yourself a
fortune and make the trip.

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Old Feb 6th 2003, 11:59 pm
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le Fri, 07 Feb 2003 10:59:25 GMT, dans l'article , Devoto a dit ...

    >> I recall a trip to Normandy with a friend in January 2000, when the
    >> temperature was hovering around zero. What with the 'wind chill' factor
    >> of a bike moving forward at around 90-100 mph, I couldn't feel my hands.

    > I assume that's a motorbike? If it's not, my money's on you in the next
    > Tour de France.

LOL !

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Old Feb 7th 2003, 1:56 am
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Barbara Vaughan
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Mobutu wrote:
    >
    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    >
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    >
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    >
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

I don't know who advised visiting Europe in the summer. It's generally
more crowded and expensive then. I would recommend the late spring or
early fall. However, especially if you're visiting mostly cities, the
winter is also not bad.

In the winter, it is certainly likely to be cold, and this may be a
problem if you're going to be outdoors for several hours at a time, as
tourists often are. In addition to the cold, there can be high winds,
rain, snow and fog. The snow could make travelling from place to place
difficult. Fog can prevent you from seeing much of the scenery, although
in a city I think it adds a certain fascination to the ambience.
Finally, there are fewer hours of daylight in winter, and this is
especially so in northern Europe. Again, if you will be visiting
museums, it doesn't much matter, but if you want to take long walks in
the countryside, it's something to consider.

You will certainly find more bargains, especially in lodging, in winter.
However, in some places, such as Rome and Florence, the summer is also a
sort of low season, as a good part of tourism in these southern cities
takes place in September and October.

Barbara
 
Old Feb 7th 2003, 2:07 am
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Mobutu wrote:
    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

There isn't a practical hindrance - it's rare that giant snowdrifts block
you into your hotel or the trains freeze to the tracks.

It really just depends on how you manage with the cold. Personally, anything
below 70F (20C) and I find it very difficult to movitate myself to go
outside. So that is a considerable drag on a trip. Other people love it cold
- they find they can move briskly without getting overheated, etc.

miguel
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Old Feb 7th 2003, 2:38 am
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"Mobutu" wrote in message
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    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.

You can probably stand the cold, but living where you do, you will have to
buy some different clothes. The best part of travelling in Europe in the
winter or anytime that isn't summer, is you don't have to put up with huge
crowds where ever you go. And, most of the stuff is open year round.
Also, not as many noisy Americans and Aussies (just kidding--the noisiest
are usually the locals and they're not even bad).
Cheers.
Bruce
 
Old Feb 7th 2003, 4:58 am
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Mobutu wrote in news:[email protected]:

    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?

It depends where you want to go. Obviously seaside and most countryside
resorts are not much useful in winter, and in many locations the tourist
facilities will be shut down. But for alpine ski resorts, winter is the
best time, obviously. For city sightseeing, culture, archaeology, museum
kind of travel the season doesn't matter that much, but bear in mind that
sun rises late and sets early, which reduced the "useful" daylight time
considerably. If you can stand cold & ugly weather, it shouldn't matter
much to you. OTOH if you hate cold, it might spoil your stay.

    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?

Sounds insane to me . But I guess there's that human element that you
yearn for the things you _don't_ have.

Regards

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Old Feb 9th 2003, 3:55 am
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5 years old and just out of the hospital. living in Alabama (deep South USA)
did London ,first time, in October, Mainly account airfares.. Rained most
days Thought I would freeze to death . on second day stopped in a department
store and bought some long johns, (winter underwear. After that i wasn't
bothered by cold, though i was still a little weak and tired easily. IF i go
again in late fall I will get some head covering in addition to jackets
sweater and long johns.
"Mobutu" wrote in message
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    > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > more an emotional thing?
    > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.


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Old Feb 9th 2003, 3:58 am
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for U nit pickers make that 75 re 5
"John H" wrote in message
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    > 5 years old and just out of the hospital. living in Alabama (deep South
USA)
    > did London ,first time, in October, Mainly account airfares.. Rained most
    > days Thought I would freeze to death . on second day stopped in a
department
    > store and bought some long johns, (winter underwear. After that i wasn't
    > bothered by cold, though i was still a little weak and tired easily. IF i
go
    > again in late fall I will get some head covering in addition to jackets
    > sweater and long johns.
    > "Mobutu" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > People in this newsgroup and in guide books and and other places always
    > > advise to visit Europe in summer and not winter.
    > >
    > > Is is really grossly impractical to be a tourist in winter? Or is it
    > > more an emotional thing?
    > >
    > > I'm from Australia and where I am it is warm and sunny every single day.
    > > It gets boring. Cold, dark and rainy/snowing weather sounds like an
    > > enjoyable novelty. Is that so insane?
    > >
    > > And with cheaper, off-peak airfares and accomodation it gets even
    > > better. But if winter is a real hindrance to travel I take it back.
    > >
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Old Feb 9th 2003, 4:22 am
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"John H" wrote in message
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    > 5 years old and just out of the hospital. living in Alabama (deep South
USA)
    > did London ,first time, in October, Mainly account airfares.. Rained most
    > days Thought I would freeze to death . on second day stopped in a
department
    > store and bought some long johns, (winter underwear. After that i wasn't
    > bothered by cold, though i was still a little weak and tired easily. IF i
go
    > again in late fall I will get some head covering in addition to jackets
    > sweater and long johns.


Shame on those who are afraid to do Europe on your own but want to do a
tour. Here's a guy 5 years old that did it.

Ryan
 
Old Feb 11th 2003, 4:44 am
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re 5 years old should read 75
"Ryan B" wrote in message
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    > "John H" wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > 5 years old and just out of the hospital. living in Alabama (deep South
    > USA)
    > > did London ,first time, in October, Mainly account airfares.. Rained
most
    > > days Thought I would freeze to death . on second day stopped in a
    > department
    > > store and bought some long johns, (winter underwear. After that i
wasn't
    > > bothered by cold, though i was still a little weak and tired easily. IF
i
    > go
    > > again in late fall I will get some head covering in addition to jackets
    > > sweater and long johns.
    > Shame on those who are afraid to do Europe on your own but want to do a
    > tour. Here's a guy 5 years old that did it.
    > Ryan


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