wine in bags?
Jun 23rd 2003, 9:55 am
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"Teak" wrote in message
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> > that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> > the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> > austrian wines is really beyond me.
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from the
US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US. Even the beer in the
train station was cheaper than drinking soda.
Of course, many Europeans persist in their ignorance of American (and
Australian) wines but an independent test long ago established the
excellence of California. For details, try this URL or do a Google search.
www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/ may2001/nf2001058_228.htm
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> > that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> > the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> > austrian wines is really beyond me.
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from the
US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US. Even the beer in the
train station was cheaper than drinking soda.
Of course, many Europeans persist in their ignorance of American (and
Australian) wines but an independent test long ago established the
excellence of California. For details, try this URL or do a Google search.
www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/ may2001/nf2001058_228.htm
--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA
Jun 23rd 2003, 10:19 am
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In article , jeroen
wrote:
> In article , [email protected]
> says...
> > Won't have a problem. I did the reversal. Brought like 3 bottles of
> > french wine, something like 10 bottles of belgium and Holland beer.
> >
> that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> austrian wines is really beyond me.
There are some really good American wines that have beaten the above in
international comparisons. You pay through the nose for them, of course.
(I.e. painfully 8->) Personally, I usually drink German wines even here
in the US because I know what the stuff on the label means and what I
like best without going by price height 8-)
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wrote:
> In article , [email protected]
> says...
> > Won't have a problem. I did the reversal. Brought like 3 bottles of
> > french wine, something like 10 bottles of belgium and Holland beer.
> >
> that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> austrian wines is really beyond me.
There are some really good American wines that have beaten the above in
international comparisons. You pay through the nose for them, of course.
(I.e. painfully 8->) Personally, I usually drink German wines even here
in the US because I know what the stuff on the label means and what I
like best without going by price height 8-)
--
Mary Loomer Oliver(aka erilar)
Erilar's Cave Annex:
http://www.airstreamcomm.net/~erilarlo
Jun 23rd 2003, 5:50 pm
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hi Jeroen
maybe because the californian wines are better than the europeen ones.
on this moment the only wines i buy is Australian wine. you can have the
europeen wines. i know frm experience nowwitch are the best for me.
Walter from Belgium
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"jeroen" schreef in bericht
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> In article , [email protected]
> says...
> > Won't have a problem. I did the reversal. Brought like 3 bottles of
french wine, something like 10 bottles of belgium and Holland beer.
> >
> that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> austrian wines is really beyond me.
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards
> Jeroen Wijnands
> http://spam.pagina.nl
maybe because the californian wines are better than the europeen ones.
on this moment the only wines i buy is Australian wine. you can have the
europeen wines. i know frm experience nowwitch are the best for me.
Walter from Belgium
--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"jeroen" schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> In article , [email protected]
> says...
> > Won't have a problem. I did the reversal. Brought like 3 bottles of
french wine, something like 10 bottles of belgium and Holland beer.
> >
> that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> austrian wines is really beyond me.
> --
> Met vriendelijke groeten/Best regards
> Jeroen Wijnands
> http://spam.pagina.nl
Jun 23rd 2003, 5:51 pm
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Teak
a bottle wine from 3 to 5 Euro thats no wine especialy not the french and
italian wines. i used it as vinegaer.
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Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
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"Teak" schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> > that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> > the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> > austrian wines is really beyond me.
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from the
US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US. Even the beer in the
train station was cheaper than drinking soda.
> -Teak
a bottle wine from 3 to 5 Euro thats no wine especialy not the french and
italian wines. i used it as vinegaer.
--
Swagmanneke( walter caremans)
[email protected]
"Teak" schreef in bericht
news:[email protected]...
> > that I understand. Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of
> > the world where you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and
> > austrian wines is really beyond me.
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from the
US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US. Even the beer in the
train station was cheaper than drinking soda.
> -Teak
Jun 23rd 2003, 6:31 pm
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John Bermont wrote in message
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> Wine vapors are flammable. Flammable substances are
> prohibited in checked luggage.
What!? Did you ever try and set fire to wine? It is possible to extract
inflammable alcohol from wine by distillation, but 'wine vapours' whatever
they are, are *not* inflammable
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> Wine vapors are flammable. Flammable substances are
> prohibited in checked luggage.
What!? Did you ever try and set fire to wine? It is possible to extract
inflammable alcohol from wine by distillation, but 'wine vapours' whatever
they are, are *not* inflammable
Jun 23rd 2003, 6:34 pm
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LivinInAustin wrote in message
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> I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> fair amount of chucking my bags around )
I've done this often (in bothe checked in baggage and cabin baggage),
usually to bring back ca wines which are unobtainable in Europe - make sure
you put them, well wrapped, in the middle of your luggage. I've not had a
breakage yet.
Bear in mind that a bottle of wine weighs a kilo and even a modest number
slice into your baggage allowance
news:[email protected]...
> I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> fair amount of chucking my bags around )
I've done this often (in bothe checked in baggage and cabin baggage),
usually to bring back ca wines which are unobtainable in Europe - make sure
you put them, well wrapped, in the middle of your luggage. I've not had a
breakage yet.
Bear in mind that a bottle of wine weighs a kilo and even a modest number
slice into your baggage allowance
Jun 23rd 2003, 6:38 pm
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WindShadow wrote in message
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> ew!!!!
> Carrying California wine to Europe???
> --
> briggl
> http://www.bestofitaly2001.com Italy Travelogue
> "LivinInAustin" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> > like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> > you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> > not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> > I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> > fair amount of chucking my bags around )
Why not? - they don't make california wine (some of which are among the
finest in the world, incidently) in Europe (or Asia)
news:[email protected]...
> ew!!!!
> Carrying California wine to Europe???
> --
> briggl
> http://www.bestofitaly2001.com Italy Travelogue
> "LivinInAustin" wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> > like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> > you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> > not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> > I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> > fair amount of chucking my bags around )
Why not? - they don't make california wine (some of which are among the
finest in the world, incidently) in Europe (or Asia)
Jun 23rd 2003, 6:39 pm
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leek wrote in message
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> In article ,
> [email protected] (LivinInAustin) wrote:
> > I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> > like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> > you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> > not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> > I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> > fair amount of chucking my bags around )
> NOT recommended. Whether it would be seen as trouble, I don't know, but
> you open yourself up to having it taken if your checked luggage is
> searched, which they do randomly.
Why? and by whom?
I've done this a zillion times from practically every country where wine is
available - never a problem
news:katman-CuT-iT-oUt--08432C.15235...wsx.cc.uic.edu...
> In article ,
> [email protected] (LivinInAustin) wrote:
> > I will be traveling to Europe and Asia in a couple weeks and would
> > like to carry a couple bottles of California wine. Do you know if
> > you're allowed to pack wine in your carry-on luggage anymore? If
> > not--would you recommend packing it in my checked-in luggage (remember
> > I change planes thrice to get to my destination and there will be a
> > fair amount of chucking my bags around )
> NOT recommended. Whether it would be seen as trouble, I don't know, but
> you open yourself up to having it taken if your checked luggage is
> searched, which they do randomly.
Why? and by whom?
I've done this a zillion times from practically every country where wine is
available - never a problem
Jun 23rd 2003, 6:41 pm
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James Silverton wrote in message
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> > But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
> sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
> ($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US.
I think you need to change your wine merchant ;-)
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> > But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no
> sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water. And the cheap wine
> ($3-5) in paris would be like a $30 bottle in the US.
I think you need to change your wine merchant ;-)
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:10 pm
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"Lennart Petersen" writes:
> Indeed "coal to Newcastle" ia a reality nowadays as uk have closed all their
> coal mines and importing all coal used for heating or power plants.
Hmm, all those ugly opencast mines must be a figment of the
imagination then.
> As for wine, why not ? Here in Sweden at the local "systembolaget" we
> have the choice of wine from Australia,South
> Africa,Chile,Argentina,California and about 40 other areas and countries
> from all of the world. That's part of the fun for a wine enthusiast.
Yes, exactly: Californian wine is readily available in Europe[*], so
there's no need to bring it (unless it's a present).
[*] except perhaps in France :-)
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-- Chris.
> Indeed "coal to Newcastle" ia a reality nowadays as uk have closed all their
> coal mines and importing all coal used for heating or power plants.
Hmm, all those ugly opencast mines must be a figment of the
imagination then.
> As for wine, why not ? Here in Sweden at the local "systembolaget" we
> have the choice of wine from Australia,South
> Africa,Chile,Argentina,California and about 40 other areas and countries
> from all of the world. That's part of the fun for a wine enthusiast.
Yes, exactly: Californian wine is readily available in Europe[*], so
there's no need to bring it (unless it's a present).
[*] except perhaps in France :-)
--
-- Chris.
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:14 pm
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jeroen writes:
> Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of the world where
> you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and austrian
> wines is really beyond me.
Because it's very good; but that's beside the point. The point is
that Californian wine is readily available in at least _this_ part of
Europe, along with plenty of wine from Australia, New Zealand, Chile,
Argentina, and many other countries. There's no need to import it
simply because it's already here.
--
-- Chris.
> Why anyone would want to take US wine to the part of the world where
> you can easily get french, italian, spanish german and austrian
> wines is really beyond me.
Because it's very good; but that's beside the point. The point is
that Californian wine is readily available in at least _this_ part of
Europe, along with plenty of wine from Australia, New Zealand, Chile,
Argentina, and many other countries. There's no need to import it
simply because it's already here.
--
-- Chris.
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:33 pm
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Marc schrieb:
> I took 4 bottles of CA wine in checked-in luggage last june without comment
> or difficulty.
There might be well a comment from customs if you travele alone.
Regards, ULF
> I took 4 bottles of CA wine in checked-in luggage last june without comment
> or difficulty.
There might be well a comment from customs if you travele alone.
Regards, ULF
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:35 pm
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[email protected] schrieb:
> Yes, exactly: Californian wine is readily available in Europe[*], so
> there's no need to bring it (unless it's a present).
>
>[*] except perhaps in France :-)
Maybe not all sorts of CA wine are sold overseas.
Regards, ULF
> Yes, exactly: Californian wine is readily available in Europe[*], so
> there's no need to bring it (unless it's a present).
>
>[*] except perhaps in France :-)
Maybe not all sorts of CA wine are sold overseas.
Regards, ULF
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:38 pm
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Teak schrieb:
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from > the US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
>
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no > sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water.
Not all of them.
Regards, ULF
> I guess because it's different. And if I wanted to bring a wine from > the US to europe, it would probably be a californian wine.
>
> But if it was for personal consumption, then you're right it makes no > sense. European wine is cheaper than bottle water.
Not all of them.
Regards, ULF
Jun 23rd 2003, 8:47 pm
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On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 10:33:46 +0200, Ulf Kutzner wrote:
> Marc schrieb:
>> I took 4 bottles of CA wine in checked-in luggage last june without
>> comment
>> or difficulty.
> There might be well a comment from customs if you travele alone.
> Regards, ULF
2 litres of still table wine per person....oops!
http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/1-pocket.htm
Tim.
> Marc schrieb:
>> I took 4 bottles of CA wine in checked-in luggage last june without
>> comment
>> or difficulty.
> There might be well a comment from customs if you travele alone.
> Regards, ULF
2 litres of still table wine per person....oops!
http://www.hmce.gov.uk/forms/notices/1-pocket.htm
Tim.
