Lj

Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria and, if so, what
are the signs/rules?

TIA

LJ

Jens Arne Maennig

LJ wrote:

    >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria

Yes. No.

They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
money to find it again and get it back.

Jens

Lj

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > LJ wrote:
    > >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > Yes. No.
    > They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > money to find it again and get it back.
    > Jens



Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??

LJ

Jens Arne Maennig

LJ wrote:
    >Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
    >> LJ wrote:

    >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    >> Yes. No.
    >> They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    >> money to find it again and get it back.
    >Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??

Wheel clamps are not in use in Austria and Germany. To make it
clearer:

    >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
------+------ -------------------+--------------------
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+-----+ |
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V V
    >> Yes. No.

HTH

Jens

James Silverton

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > LJ wrote:
    > >Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
    > >> LJ wrote:
    > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > >>
    > >> Yes. No.
    > >>
    > >> They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > >> money to find it again and get it back.
    > >
    > >Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??
    > Wheel clamps are not in use in Austria and Germany. To make it
    > clearer:
    > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > ------+------ -------------------+--------------------
    > | |
    > +-----+ |
    > | |
    > | +----------------------------+
    > | |
    > V V
    > >> Yes. No.

I suspect the answer is yes but will someone confirm that a "wheel clamp" is
the same thing that I know as a "boot" or "Denver Boot"? By the way, there
was a report some months ago about an Irishman who was seen to successfully
remove one of the damn things by letting the air out of his tire (g).


--
James V. Silverton
Potomac, Maryland, USA

Tim

"Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > LJ wrote:
    > >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > Yes. No.

Really, I've never seen one (I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't know)

    > They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > money to find it again and get it back.

This isn't ususal for a standard 'non payment' parking offense. It is usual
for them to remove cars only if you are in a restricted zone and are there
in a restricted time (e.g. in the Market place on market day)

tim


    > Jens

Tim

"James Silverton" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
    >
    > "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > LJ wrote:
    > > >Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
    > > >> LJ wrote:
    > >
    > > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > > >>
    > > >> Yes. No.
    > > >>
    > > >> They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > > >> money to find it again and get it back.
    > > >
    > > >Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??
    > >
    > > Wheel clamps are not in use in Austria and Germany. To make it
    > > clearer:
    > >
    > > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > > ------+------ -------------------+--------------------
    > > | |
    > > +-----+ |
    > > | |
    > > | +----------------------------+
    > > | |
    > > V V
    > > >> Yes. No.
    > >
    >
    > I suspect the answer is yes but will someone confirm that a "wheel clamp" is
    > the same thing that I know as a "boot" or "Denver Boot"?

Yes. I've only ever seen them in the UK. If the LA (local authority) want
to clamp you for a 'standard' parking offence they will do so with no warning.
If a private body wants to use a clamp to deter you from parking in a place
that isn't a public car park then there must be a warning sign (also telling you
how to contact them for removal), but there is no requirement for it be in any
specific form (the latter use is illegal in scotland).

    > By the way, there
    > was a report some months ago about an Irishman who was seen to successfully
    > remove one of the damn things by letting the air out of his tire (g).
    >
    >
    > --
    > James V. Silverton
    > Potomac, Maryland, USA
    >
    >

Evelynvogtgamble

James Silverton wrote:
    >
    > I suspect the answer is yes but will someone confirm that a "wheel clamp" is
    > the same thing that I know as a "boot" or "Denver Boot"? By the way, there
    > was a report some months ago about an Irishman who was seen to successfully
    > remove one of the damn things by letting the air out of his tire (g).

Wouldn't it be simpler and less inconvenient just to park legally in the
first place? And/or to pay any fines for prior offenses, instead of
ignoring the citations? (At least in California, such implements are
generally used only on cars with a fair number of outstanding warrants
recorded against them.)

Alec

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    > "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > LJ wrote:
    > >
    > > >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > >
    > > Yes. No.
    > >
    > > They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > > money to find it again and get it back.
    > >
    > > Jens
    > Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??
    > LJ
Often a pictogram of a car being towed away, with the accompanying words:
'abgeschlept' = (offending vehicle will be ) 'towed away'.
This is more common on commercial/private properties (private car parks,
garage entrances etc) than on public roads.

Alec

Mark Hewitt

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    > Wouldn't it be simpler and less inconvenient just to park legally in the
    > first place? And/or to pay any fines for prior offenses, instead of
    > ignoring the citations? (At least in California, such implements are
    > generally used only on cars with a fair number of outstanding warrants
    > recorded against them.)

Yes and No. Most of the time, sure. But there have been several case where
clampers have 'tricked' unsuspecting people. Like for example, a tarmaced
area just outside of a group of shops. Someone who doesn't know the area
will think thats designated parking for the shopping area and park there.
Not noticing the tiny signs saying parking not permitted, they return to
find their vehicle has been towed away and they have to pay hundreds of
pounds, in cash, to get it back. There is currently no limit on the amount
clampers can charge.

Lj

"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
    > James Silverton wrote:
    > >
    > > I suspect the answer is yes but will someone confirm that a "wheel
clamp" is
    > > the same thing that I know as a "boot" or "Denver Boot"? By the way,
there
    > > was a report some months ago about an Irishman who was seen to
successfully
    > > remove one of the damn things by letting the air out of his tire (g).
    > Wouldn't it be simpler and less inconvenient just to park legally in the
    > first place? And/or to pay any fines for prior offenses, instead of
    > ignoring the citations? (At least in California, such implements are
    > generally used only on cars with a fair number of outstanding warrants
    > recorded against them.)

In many cases (in the UK excluding Scotland) they are used as a way of
ripping off motorists by having an apparently free parking area but with a
minimal sized warning sign 20 ft up a wall or around a corner!

I just wondered if similar scams are operated in Germany/Austria as I am
going there in a couple of weeks and the language barrier does make it even
easier if it is legal and they are so inclined!

LJ

Thomas Peel

James Silverton schrieb:
    >
    > "Jens Arne Maennig" <[email protected]> wrote in message
    > news:[email protected]...
    > > LJ wrote:
    > > >Jens Arne Maennig wrote:
    > > >> LJ wrote:
    > >
    > > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > > >>
    > > >> Yes. No.
    > > >>
    > > >> They will take your whole car away and it will cost you some time and
    > > >> money to find it again and get it back.
    > > >
    > > >Is there a standard sign to indicate areas where they are in use ??
    > >
    > > Wheel clamps are not in use in Austria and Germany. To make it
    > > clearer:
    > >
    > > >> >Anyone know if wheelclamps are in use in Germany/Austria
    > > ------+------ -------------------+--------------------
    > > | |
    > > +-----+ |
    > > | |
    > > | +----------------------------+
    > > | |
    > > V V
    > > >> Yes. No.
    > >
    >
    > I suspect the answer is yes

but as Jens quite clearly stated, the answer once again is- NO.

If you are simply ignoring a "No Parking" sign, all you'll get is a
parking ticket. If you are causing an obstruction, you will very likely
get your car towed away. This can also happen even if there is no
explicit "No Parking" sign. As just one example, if you park in such a
way as to block the exit to a carpark, you will get towed within
minutes. You have to use your brains.


Tom


but will someone confirm that a "wheel clamp" is
    > the same thing that I know as a "boot" or "Denver Boot"? By the way, there
    > was a report some months ago about an Irishman who was seen to successfully
    > remove one of the damn things by letting the air out of his tire (g).
    >
    > --
    > James V. Silverton
    > Potomac, Maryland, USA